Foo Fighters - Beat the bots method

that was the best method ive seen in a long. keep ticket master but do everything in person.. thats the only way to do this right
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  • phungiphungi Posts: 641
    agreed x100. was happy to stand in line with fans, and buy 4 tickets. While I am sure there were folks paid to purchase tickets for scalpers, it gave everyone fan a guaranteed ticket, provided they were willing to show up and stand in line for an hour or two.
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  • RP112579RP112579 Posts: 3,381
    Yes, because scalpers won't stand in line. How do you think scalpers got tickets pre-internet?
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  • I actually thought it was very shitty.

    In Toronto, they said anyone who was in line by 11 was guaranteed tickets. THe first x amount of people got floors. But there were lots of people there with friends and they were all buying the 4 ticket limit. There were also people buying floors at 10 (before 11) and going to the back of the line and getting more tickets. By people I mean greasy, longhaired scalpers. I think it ate up a very large portion of the tickets for the public.

    I've always believed Nine Inch Nails is doing it right. Name on the order is actually printed on the tickets. You must enter the venue with ID and all members of your party must enter with you. Very little opportunity to scalp tickets that way.
  • rattzeyrattzey Posts: 877
    LOL when I lined in Calgary (4 hours) for Foo Fighters tickets I was about 50th in line then they drew a number which put me right to the back of the line and I got shut out of tickets . So I am fine with the lottery, then Ticketmaster. IMO
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  • dtr0624dtr0624 Posts: 611
    RP112579 said:

    Yes, because scalpers won't stand in line. How do you think scalpers got tickets pre-internet?

    every post you comment on is negative haha. atleast it pretty much promises people a chance at tickets. go old school. line up for tickets. it gets rid of the bots. there will always be scalpers but thats not the real issue. the real issue is the computers buying thousands at a time... when you buy in person there is a limit....
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  • RP112579 said:

    Yes, because scalpers won't stand in line. How do you think scalpers got tickets pre-internet?

    Nobody can walk up to a counter and buy thousands of tickets on 100s of credit cards, friendo.
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  • vest71vest71 Posts: 239
    that is not the solution... what about people from other countries ? you only thinking it is a fair deal because you live in the city where the concert is ,but think about this : PJs last show EVER and you can only buy if you show up at the counter oh did i mention the concert being held in Poland ...you would go bananas
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  • vest71vest71 Posts: 239
    i can't understand why reselling at over face is not illegal... if the sites like stubhub and ticketgo were illegal and you would get fined big time and the tickets got back in sale( the band wouldn't suffer from empty seats ) i think you would have a better chance, but as long it is legal it will always be a problem.
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  • dtr0624dtr0624 Posts: 611
    vest71 said:

    that is not the solution... what about people from other countries ? you only thinking it is a fair deal because you live in the city where the concert is ,but think about this : PJs last show EVER and you can only buy if you show up at the counter oh did i mention the concert being held in Poland ...you would go bananas

    orrrrrr... just call? theres always that
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  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 3,029
    No! I don't want to travel in order to get tickets. A terrible idea for all fans who don't live in or near a major market.
  • dtr0624dtr0624 Posts: 611
    or just calll if you dont live close.. its not that bad.
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  • DeegzDeegz Posts: 64

    I've always believed Nine Inch Nails is doing it right. Name on the order is actually printed on the tickets. You must enter the venue with ID and all members of your party must enter with you. Very little opportunity to scalp tickets that way.

    This might be the way to go. There's always gonna be a loophole though.
  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,646
    The concept is great, however Toronto was royally screwed over. Hundreds of people that arrived before the 9:30 deadline weren't even considered when they cut the line with the draw. Out of the (lets say) 2000 people that should have been in the line up lottery, only 1500 were given a raffle ticket and had a chance to move up the line.
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  • kg162716kg162716 Posts: 568
    ""I've always believed Nine Inch Nails is doing it right. Name on the order is actually printed on the tickets. You must enter the venue with ID and all members of your party must enter with you. Very little opportunity to scalp tickets that way.""

    good idea....
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  • SaravaSarava Posts: 2,027
    RP112579 said:

    Yes, because scalpers won't stand in line. How do you think scalpers got tickets pre-internet?

    Well, after reading the story of the bot that bought over 1000 U2 tickets in 3 minutes...yeah I do think this might help.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,591
    dtr0624 said:

    that was the best method ive seen in a long. keep ticket master but do everything in person.. thats the only way to do this right

    It has one major drawback. It sucks for anyone not living in a city the band plays in. IE for me I live on Vancouver Island. PJ doesn't play here. Vancouver and Seattle are the closest cities to me that I can see PJ play at (I have to travel for every show). Vancouver is a total of around 3.5 hours for car/ferry/bus/skytrain and Seattle is about 5 hours for driving/ferry/driving. I would loathe having to take the day off work, pay all those fees, just to go over to the mainland to buy tickets.

    On the other hand Vancouver only has 2 million + people. My whole province only has 4.7 million people. It's not horribly hard getting tickets for Vancouver. I get jealous of the East because PJ plays there more often. They play the NorthWest less, but Seattle's the only shows out here insanely hard to get tickets too... If they play anywhere else like Portland, Boise, Spokane, Calgary, Edmonton etc... it's not superhard to get tickets.

    So what's better. Living somewhere where PJ plays more often or living somewhere it's easier to get tickets? :)
  • rw160510rw160510 Posts: 958
    edited January 2016
    On their last UK tour radiohead did ticketless entry. You had your credit card swiped on entry to the venue. You and your party entered together. Seemed like it was pretty difficult to scalp those tickets. Obviously there are issues around expired cards etc if you're buying well in advance but it did work. Also, the nine inch nails method is great.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,515
    rw160510 said:

    On their last UK tour radiohead did ticketless entry. You had your credit card swiped on entry to the venue. You and your party entered together. Seemed like it was pretty difficult to scalp those tickets. Obviously there are issues around expired cards etc if you're buying well in advance but it did work. Also, the nine inch nails method is great.

    In the past, Radiohead really made their fans jump thru hoops for presale tickets. For several U.S. tours, they wouldn't announce the start-time of the pre-sale, so you had to stay up all night hitting F5 in order to not miss-out. The presales were handled by a UK company, so they sometimes started them at 10am UK time, which translates to 5am NY time and 2am L.A. time.

  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,345
    rw160510 said:

    On their last UK tour radiohead did ticketless entry. You had your credit card swiped on entry to the venue. You and your party entered together. Seemed like it was pretty difficult to scalp those tickets. Obviously there are issues around expired cards etc if you're buying well in advance but it did work. Also, the nine inch nails method is great.

    expired card will scan properly at the door... as long as it didn't get cut up
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Sarava said:

    RP112579 said:

    Yes, because scalpers won't stand in line. How do you think scalpers got tickets pre-internet?

    Well, after reading the story of the bot that bought over 1000 U2 tickets in 3 minutes...yeah I do think this might help.
    60 seconds... 1000+ U2 @ MSG tix in 60 seconds
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066

    The NIN method works very well.

    what's the NIN method/system?

    I can understand the Foos metod, not a huge fan of it though. Don't mind standing in line to get tix but what about the people that actually have to go to work or can't make it in person cause of personal issues or something? Also I did that once for a Foos show, the MTV $2 concert at the Electric Factory in philly in '02. Line was insane and we didn't even move and didn't get tix. same with the White Stripes in '07 (although i did get a ticket to that show when i called while standing in line)
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  • vest71vest71 Posts: 239
    dtr0624 said:

    vest71 said:

    that is not the solution... what about people from other countries ? you only thinking it is a fair deal because you live in the city where the concert is ,but think about this : PJs last show EVER and you can only buy if you show up at the counter oh did i mention the concert being held in Poland ...you would go bananas

    orrrrrr... just call? theres always that
    that was not an option in what i wrote ....

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  • rw160510rw160510 Posts: 958
    JOEJOEJOE said:

    rw160510 said:

    On their last UK tour radiohead did ticketless entry. You had your credit card swiped on entry to the venue. You and your party entered together. Seemed like it was pretty difficult to scalp those tickets. Obviously there are issues around expired cards etc if you're buying well in advance but it did work. Also, the nine inch nails method is great.

    In the past, Radiohead really made their fans jump thru hoops for presale tickets. For several U.S. tours, they wouldn't announce the start-time of the pre-sale, so you had to stay up all night hitting F5 in order to not miss-out. The presales were handled by a UK company, so they sometimes started them at 10am UK time, which translates to 5am NY time and 2am L.A. time.

    Fair enough. I can see how that would be an issue in the states for a presale. What I thought was great about it though was that it was card swipes for all tickets including those sold by ticketmaster so it made them very difficult to resell. As a result tickets were available for a good time after they went on sale.
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