Thoughts on mat colors for my 96 & 98 Hartford posters?

SK20613SK20613 Apex, NC Posts: 103
Just wondering if any of you with eyes for this, have any thoughts to help me decide?

All the mat color choices are here
http://www.americanframe.com/departments/picture-framing-accessories/mat-board/alphamat-artcare-conservation-mat-board.aspx

Some thoughts I'm toying with:
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Thanks!
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  • benJAMinbenJAMin Posts: 257
    Just my own experience talking here - you're best off using American Frame's free mat samples rather than eyeballing it digitally. The jpeg colors of the print may/will differ from the real thing, and the colors on AF's website also vary from the actual mat. They do a great job getting it as close as possible, but having all the materials in front of you makes a big difference if you're having trouble deciding which color is the best.
    I did the same thing with a couple of my prints - had a couple different options that I thought looked best on my computer, and decided to order the free samples just to be sure before purchasing the mats. Once the samples arrived and I laid them across each piece, I definitely changed my mind. The computer screen just alters them too much IMO.
    It looks like you've got a lot of different color options, so I would call AF tomorrow - in the past they've been nice enough to mail me 10 samples rather than five, and they're free, as long as you don't mind waiting 3-6 days for them to arrive.

    My opinion for your mats would be the first option for the 96, and the 5th option for the 98 - the mustard and black one. For the 96, since the red will be hard to match, I might suggest a 1/4" tan bottom mat with a black mat on top, so the red on the print will really pop.

    One last piece of advice - you may want to reverse-bevel the top mat when framing. Most mats have white cores, which won't be a problem when its next to the white border of the print, but a standard bevel between, for example, the mustard and black mat will leave a thin white line between the colors, because of the white foam core. If you reverse bevel it will eliminate that white core from being seen and intruding on the other colors. Hope that makes sense.

    Good luck and lemme know if you have any other questions!
    -Ben
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  • SK20613SK20613 Apex, NC Posts: 103
    Thanks, really appreciate you taking the time to write that. I recently got my Boston '06 done and at the same time I ordered the entire set of mat samples. Even with those, it's hard to decide. I'll have to get out my mats again, and take a look at your ideas of mustard and black and black and tan. My only fear with the black is that its a lot of extra black and I really want the colors to pop. In '96 I want the darker red to pop and in '98 I kinda wanted to pull the greens out more than the yellows. I have seen someone else do the mustard and black on the 98, as you described,and it does look great. I was trying to play around with doing something different.

    Here's how the 06 came out:
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    I totally get what you're saying with the reverse bevel, here on the 06, I like seeing the white core, and I think it works because there is a lot of white in the art.

    When I framed the 06, it was difficult because the mats overlapped on all sides by just a tiny amount. I used americanframe.com "select art size" and they adjusted for the mats, but I'm wondering if I should set the art size maybe just a little bigger than it really is, like 1/8" on all sides or something?
  • benJAMinbenJAMin Posts: 257
    Dude, love that whale frame job! And agreed about the white core looking great there. Killer! Yeah if you have the mat set then you'll find a good fit, you've got a good eye.

    Not sure how much I put for overlapping in the past, but I do remember framing my first print using AF being really difficult because of the sizing they selected for me automatically. Sorry I cant be more helpful there.

    Curious to see how they turn out, make sure you post pics when you finish!
    the palms, in the breeze, still blow green
    and the waves in the sea still absolute blue
  • otter523otter523 Posts: 250
    I had my Hartford 98 framed by Frame Fetish. Link is a true artist and you should give him look. He is open on price typically too. Check out his website and my Hartford Poster is on there in the Gallery. If you want more pics just shoot em a PM. Google Frame Fetish and his page will be easy to find.
    09/13/98 - 08/27/00 - 08/29/00 - 08/30/00 - 04/29/03 - 07/03/03 - 07/11/03 - 09/28/04 - 09/15/05 - 05/12/06 -10/15/13 - 10/25/13 - 04/29/16 - 05/01/16 - 05/02/16 - 05/08/16 - 08/05/16 - 08/07/16 - RRHOF-04/07/17 - 09/02/18 - 09/04/18 - 09/03/22 - 09/11/22

    E.V-06/08/09 - 06/09/09
  • otter523otter523 Posts: 250
    http://hartford98project.shutterfly.com/pictures#n_5

    I actually had a post when I had this done a couple years ago about the whole restoration. Not sure if the link still works but if it does it shows some pics of my frame.
    09/13/98 - 08/27/00 - 08/29/00 - 08/30/00 - 04/29/03 - 07/03/03 - 07/11/03 - 09/28/04 - 09/15/05 - 05/12/06 -10/15/13 - 10/25/13 - 04/29/16 - 05/01/16 - 05/02/16 - 05/08/16 - 08/05/16 - 08/07/16 - RRHOF-04/07/17 - 09/02/18 - 09/04/18 - 09/03/22 - 09/11/22

    E.V-06/08/09 - 06/09/09
  • stickmanstickman Posts: 1,008
    My Hartford 1998 is on Espressobeans .... Check it out ...
  • stickmanstickman Posts: 1,008
    I like that Boston 06 too... I want to frame mine soon ... But I also have the 2003 MSG to get done too ... And my PJ20 ones ...
  • SK20613SK20613 Apex, NC Posts: 103
    Thanks all. I have seen your frame job before otter523, its amazing.. but I'm trying to keep around 100 a frame, since I have like 12 now and 2-3 more this year, hopefully.. I'm sure he'd want closer to 300 for that frame job he did for you on the Hartford 98.
  • VOLAREVOLARE Posts: 313
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    I like #4 on the 98. it's the only one that focuses my eyes on to the artwork.
  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,644
    ah framing.....

    I wish I was allowed to keep doing this in my house... I really enjoy the whole process... my wife however killed/rejected proposals from recent tours...

    from someone who has done a lot of framing:

    for the '96 I would say don't try and match reds, it's never works out just like you want it too. Even when you go to the more expensive felts, they never quite match the colour. plus that poster is so red, you don't need more of it. It doesn't help the image any.

    For the '98, I like the 5th choice the most. The top green mat distracts too much from the image. Unfortunately the green in the image is confirmed to the bottom, placing a green top mat the whole way around tends to draw the eye away from the central image and towards the bottom, where it isn't really meant to be... does this make sense?

    Lately, whenever I do get to frame things, my tastes have gone ultra conservative... a lot of stark whites. I have been using double matted whites on a couple of pieces lately, and I really love how they have turned out... my kenny random Hard Times variant looks fantastic on a double white matt... the hartford image would also work very well with a double white matt - the white border on the print, combined with the simplicity of the images is a good match... that is what I would look into on that...

    as for the hartford I think my taste would be more in the beige tones, given the difficulty of matching the reds and their dominance.... but obviously this is your art, not mine...

    love to see some finished images....
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    This question is like, "What pair of thongs does my hot girlfriend look better in?" :lol:
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  • jlaustinjlaustin Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,355

    This question is like, "What pair of thongs does my hot girlfriend look better in?" :lol:

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  • SK20613SK20613 Apex, NC Posts: 103

    This question is like, "What pair of thongs does my hot girlfriend look better in?" :lol:

    Wouldn't you want to help me with that too?
  • SK20613SK20613 Apex, NC Posts: 103
    edited February 2016
    Here is where I'm leaning now..
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  • SK20613SK20613 Apex, NC Posts: 103
    edited March 2016
    All right, got em done, been enjoying them for a few weeks here in my home office. Really really happy how they turned out.

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    next up, DC 2003. Wanted to do a red white and blue triple mat, but none of the mat samples work with the colors in the poster.
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    SK20613 said:

    All right, got em done, been enjoying them for a few weeks here in my home office. Really really happy how they turned out.

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    next up, DC 2003. Wanted to do a red white and blue triple mat, but none of the mat samples work with the colors in the poster.

    Outstanding :smiley:
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  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,278
    So jealous of that 98. Looks awesome
  • benJAMinbenJAMin Posts: 257
    Congrats bro! They turned out sick, great choices!
    the palms, in the breeze, still blow green
    and the waves in the sea still absolute blue
  • SweetDaddyLouSweetDaddyLou Posts: 1,186
    Sweet, especially the green one!
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