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Can we take our guns.....

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
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into the pearl jam shows?

loud, aggressive music, lots of people in close quarters bumping into each other, add some booze and drugs, outspoken band in the middle of a highly divided campaign season...

i'm sure everything would be fine.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

Comments

  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    Wow.

    Just wow.....
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    What do you mean, wow?

    If the streets are safe for guns... why would a concert be any different? If all the gun owners are responsible... nobody should be concerned. I feel more love and friendship at a concert than I do driving my car with everybody's stress levels elevated.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    What do you mean, wow?

    If the streets are safe for guns... why would a concert be any different? If all the gun owners are responsible... nobody should be concerned. I feel more love and friendship at a concert than I do driving my car with everybody's stress levels elevated.

    Who said that all gun owners are responsible?
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    the nra. plus numerous posters on this forum.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Yee haw! Fuck yeah, dude!

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    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,541
    Wait so the pro gunners here don't want guns on everybody , at schools at movie theaters and concealed to top it off I must of entered the twilight zone ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    In Texas they are allowed by law.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    This varies from state to state.

    For the record, I don't think that just anybody should be able to carry guns wherever they want. There is a huge difference between someone who has sought training, passed a background check and proven themselves proficient with a gun and someone who just went and bought a gun because they thought it was a cool thing to do. Taking it even further, the guy with restraining orders, violent crime convictions or serious mental illness shouldn't be allowed anywhere near guns.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    josevolution said:

    Wait so the pro gunners here don't want guns on everybody , at schools at movie theaters and concealed to top it off I must of entered the twilight zone ...


    I don't ever recall anyone on here ever saying that everyone should have guns. Not ever.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,541
    dudeman said:

    josevolution said:

    Wait so the pro gunners here don't want guns on everybody , at schools at movie theaters and concealed to top it off I must of entered the twilight zone ...


    I don't ever recall anyone on here ever saying that everyone should have guns. Not ever.
    not is those words your correct but you always hear if someone in that theater/school/concerthall had a gun blah blah blah .....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    edited January 2016
    josevolution said:

    dudeman said:

    josevolution said:

    Wait so the pro gunners here don't want guns on everybody , at schools at movie theaters and concealed to top it off I must of entered the twilight zone ...


    I don't ever recall anyone on here ever saying that everyone should have guns. Not ever.
    not is those words your correct but you always hear if someone in that theater/school/concerthall had a gun blah blah blah .....
    There need to be a qualifier in there somewhere.

    "If someone who had an appropriate level of training and possessed sound judgement in emergency situations had a gun, maybe some lives could have been saved."

    Someone just having a gun and blasting away at what one might perceive as a "bad guy" is all wrong for a number of reasons.

    I think we at least agree on the last part.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    Guns are against the law to have near a school…

    This thread is also ridiculous...
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    edited January 2016
    tempo_n_groove said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    Guns are against the law to have near a school…

    This thread is also ridiculous...
    I wish that were true but the fact is, they are allowed in schools in some parts. Check it out:

    http://www.armedcampuses.org/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/guns-in-schools-firearms-_n_2482168.html
    Post edited by brianlux on
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    dudeman said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    This varies from state to state.

    For the record, I don't think that just anybody should be able to carry guns wherever they want. There is a huge difference between someone who has sought training, passed a background check and proven themselves proficient with a gun and someone who just went and bought a gun because they thought it was a cool thing to do. Taking it even further, the guy with restraining orders, violent crime convictions or serious mental illness shouldn't be allowed anywhere near guns.
    tell that to the nra leadership.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    edited January 2016
    tempo_n_groove said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    Guns are against the law to have near a school…

    This thread is also ridiculous...
    school districts have voted to allow teachers to carry guns in school.

    i know people who will leave the field of teaching if they are told to carry a gun at work.

    i don't see how it is ridiculous. it is a valid point. i want to take my guns to a concert. i want to be a vigilante and save everyone in case something happens. so can i?
    Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    Guns are against the law to have near a school…

    This thread is also ridiculous...
    school districts have voted to allow teachers to carry guns in school.

    i know people who will leave the field of teaching if they are told to carry a gun at work.

    i don't see how it is ridiculous. it is a valid point. i want to take my guns to a concert. i want to be a vigilante and save everyone in case something happens. so can i?
    Vigilante a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.

    So that would be illegal…

    Above with the school thing. I read the articles and can't figure out besides colleges, where you can carry a gun. When I lived in Florida and Louisiana it was illegal. So if they are changing laws then I am unaware...
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    brianlux said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    Guns are against the law to have near a school…

    This thread is also ridiculous...
    I wish that were true but the fact is, they are allowed in schools in some parts. Check it out:

    http://www.armedcampuses.org/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/guns-in-schools-firearms-_n_2482168.html
    Allowed by teachers/adults with training. It's not like students are running around armed and playing cops and robbers.

    Some of those states only allow guns on campus if they're locked inside a vehicle.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    This varies from state to state.

    For the record, I don't think that just anybody should be able to carry guns wherever they want. There is a huge difference between someone who has sought training, passed a background check and proven themselves proficient with a gun and someone who just went and bought a gun because they thought it was a cool thing to do. Taking it even further, the guy with restraining orders, violent crime convictions or serious mental illness shouldn't be allowed anywhere near guns.
    tell that to the nra leadership.
    I have.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    edited January 2016
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    Guns are against the law to have near a school…

    This thread is also ridiculous...
    school districts have voted to allow teachers to carry guns in school.

    i know people who will leave the field of teaching if they are told to carry a gun at work.

    i don't see how it is ridiculous. it is a valid point. i want to take my guns to a concert. i want to be a vigilante and save everyone in case something happens. so can i?

    A school district doesn't have the authority to make a teacher/faculty member carry a gun against their will.

    Concerning the last part of this post, (and the whole thread, I guess): Do you expect this discussion to have any positive influence on AMT?
    Post edited by dudeman on
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    tempo_n_groove said:

    brianlux said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    dudeman said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    if more guns make us safer, what's the concern?

    Who said that more guns make us safer?
    are you saying that there are places where guns should not be allowed?
    There already are places where guns aren't legally allowed. Concert venues are among them.

    This is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at an intentionally antagonistic thread, FWIW.
    Check out all the places where guns ARE allowed- restaurants, schools, bars, churches, Starbucks, Krogers, Walmart, on and on and on. It's ridiculous. The whole concept does deserve a heavy razzing and criticism.
    Guns are against the law to have near a school…

    This thread is also ridiculous...
    Not in Texas.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
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