The terrorist attacks we don't care about

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    I've brought this up before. I believe the explanation as to why we seem less affected by such events is quite simple.

    The most basic human instincts are those of survival and the protection of your own family. When such attacks occur in third world countries, they basically don't set off our threat-detector. However, when they happen in a country like France or England it's close to home and it scares us. We see these people as being very akin to ourselves and thus perceive that what could happen to them could as easily happen to us.

    This theory may seem to paint us in a bad light as inherently selfish beings but we can't control our most basic instincts

    Quite insightful, my Irish friend.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    the Irish and Ani have it right. I don't think it's a white or black thing either. I think it's a "relatable" thing, where it becomes "if it can happen to them, it can happen to me", because we see ourselves the same as we see them.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663

    the Irish and Ani have it right. I don't think it's a white or black thing either. I think it's a "relatable" thing, where it becomes "if it can happen to them, it can happen to me", because we see ourselves the same as we see them.

    Yes, although I think that is a big mistake, of course. The "it could never happen to me" mentality is unbelievably stupid. Major social and political upheaval and violence can happen anywhere.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    Proximity and familiarity play into it. If a Ferry sinks in Vietnam and 300 people die, you most likely go back to eating your Frosted Flakes after taking 20 seconds to ponder the horror. It's a different story if one of your H.S. classmates was on the ferry.

    That is true - of course an actual personal connection has a huge impact.... But i don't think too many people knew anyone in the Paris attacks.
    Anyway, this is where news about attacks that most don't particularly care about because they aren't too worried about humans who don't look like them or spend money like them can be posted and discussed.
    No.

    But we can all relate to being attacked while attending a concert- a pretty frightening ordeal to entertain in your mind.

    This event was far from ordinary.

    * And I'm not trying to dismiss your premise by saying such.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I had an argument with my cousin on Facebook as he said I need to keep it real after showing my support for the victims of the recent Paris attacks. He made a good point, what about all the third world countries where attacks happen often and no one shows their support on Facebook.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    PJ_Soul said:

    the Irish and Ani have it right. I don't think it's a white or black thing either. I think it's a "relatable" thing, where it becomes "if it can happen to them, it can happen to me", because we see ourselves the same as we see them.

    Yes, although I think that is a big mistake, of course. The "it could never happen to me" mentality is unbelievably stupid. Major social and political upheaval and violence can happen anywhere.
    I wouldn't say it's stupid, per say, I think it's just how our brains are wired. if we can't relate to it, good or bad, our brains dismiss it.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663

    PJ_Soul said:

    the Irish and Ani have it right. I don't think it's a white or black thing either. I think it's a "relatable" thing, where it becomes "if it can happen to them, it can happen to me", because we see ourselves the same as we see them.

    Yes, although I think that is a big mistake, of course. The "it could never happen to me" mentality is unbelievably stupid. Major social and political upheaval and violence can happen anywhere.
    I wouldn't say it's stupid, per say, I think it's just how our brains are wired. if we can't relate to it, good or bad, our brains dismiss it.

    I can't really agree with that, since that is not how my brain is wired, and I know others who don't feel that way either. And it's not like we are special people or anything. I think the "it could never happen to me" thing is learned, not wired.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    the Irish and Ani have it right. I don't think it's a white or black thing either. I think it's a "relatable" thing, where it becomes "if it can happen to them, it can happen to me", because we see ourselves the same as we see them.

    Yes, although I think that is a big mistake, of course. The "it could never happen to me" mentality is unbelievably stupid. Major social and political upheaval and violence can happen anywhere.
    I wouldn't say it's stupid, per say, I think it's just how our brains are wired. if we can't relate to it, good or bad, our brains dismiss it.

    I can't really agree with that, since that is not how my brain is wired, and I know others who don't feel that way either. And it's not like we are special people or anything. I think the "it could never happen to me" thing is learned, not wired.
    well I'm not saying 100% of the population is wired like that, I'm saying the majority. think of it this way: if you see an ambulance rushing down your street, you may go outside to look where it's going. if you hear an ambulance a few streets over, you probably go along about your day after the sound dissipates. it's all about how "close" it feels to a person.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited February 2016
    Dozens killed in ISIS attack in heavily populated, mainly Shiite Damascus suburb. More than 20 militia fighters with government forces among dead. Three bombs: when rescuers started showing up to rescue victims from a car bomb, 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves (one stood right next to a gas tank station). :frowning: Pretty despicable tactics, blowing up rescuers... although I suspect the US military does the same thing.

    https://www.rt.com/news/330764-damascus-bomb-attack-isis/
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    No PJ we dont act like those low life murdering Islamic fundamentalist douche bags.Cmon,you know better than that.
  • PJ_Soul said:

    Dozens killed in ISIS attack in heavily populated, mainly Shiite Damascus suburb. More than 20 militia fighters with government forces among dead. Three bombs: when rescuers started showing up to rescue victims from a car bomb, 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves (one stood right next to a gas tank station). :frowning: Pretty despicable tactics, blowing up rescuers... although I suspect the US military does the same thing.

    https://www.rt.com/news/330764-damascus-bomb-attack-isis/

    I disagree :smile:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited February 2016
    rr165892 said:

    No PJ we dont act like those low life murdering Islamic fundamentalist douche bags.Cmon,you know better than that.

    What? No i don't. I fully believe that the US military will send a second bomb once rescuers arrive of we're talking about the enemy. They don't care of they kill rescuers if the rescuers are also their enemies. If you don't think the US would do that you are very naive (unless you're being sarcastic... are you?).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663

    PJ_Soul said:

    Dozens killed in ISIS attack in heavily populated, mainly Shiite Damascus suburb. More than 20 militia fighters with government forces among dead. Three bombs: when rescuers started showing up to rescue victims from a car bomb, 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves (one stood right next to a gas tank station). :frowning: Pretty despicable tactics, blowing up rescuers... although I suspect the US military does the same thing.

    https://www.rt.com/news/330764-damascus-bomb-attack-isis/

    I disagree :smile:
    Why?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Dozens killed in ISIS attack in heavily populated, mainly Shiite Damascus suburb. More than 20 militia fighters with government forces among dead. Three bombs: when rescuers started showing up to rescue victims from a car bomb, 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves (one stood right next to a gas tank station). :frowning: Pretty despicable tactics, blowing up rescuers... although I suspect the US military does the same thing.

    https://www.rt.com/news/330764-damascus-bomb-attack-isis/

    I disagree :smile:
    Why?
    Well unless you post evidence of your suspicion I disagree.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Dozens killed in ISIS attack in heavily populated, mainly Shiite Damascus suburb. More than 20 militia fighters with government forces among dead. Three bombs: when rescuers started showing up to rescue victims from a car bomb, 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves (one stood right next to a gas tank station). :frowning: Pretty despicable tactics, blowing up rescuers... although I suspect the US military does the same thing.

    https://www.rt.com/news/330764-damascus-bomb-attack-isis/

    I disagree :smile:
    Why?
    Well unless you post evidence of your suspicion I disagree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-drones-bomb-civilian-rescuers-2013-7

    This was the first Google result.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • ^^^
    Read it.
    Did not know this.
    If true it is appalling.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    No PJ we dont act like those low life murdering Islamic fundamentalist douche bags.Cmon,you know better than that.

    That isn't what she said, she said we probably bomb first responders.
    We absolutely do.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    ^^^
    Read it.
    Did not know this.
    If true it is appalling.

    It is true.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited February 2016
    Did y'all seriously never hear of Julian Assange and wikileaks??? The Reuters journalist killed by the Apache in the collateral murder video??

    His name was Namir Noor-Eldeen, 22 years old. Look it up, without whistleblowers this shit would never come to light.
    YouTube it, Collateral Murder.

    Perhaps then MAYBE you can wrap your head around what lowlife murdering douchebags our soldiers can be RR
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576