The terrorist attacks we don't care about

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Domestic white male terrorist arrested today. But it's those Muslims we have to worry about.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-arrests-man-plot-detonate-bomb-oklahoma-bank-49208876


    I would be very interested to know just how many terrorist attacks are stopped before they happen. Over time, I've gotten the impression that it's a LOT. You'd think that the intelligence community would want everyone to know about them.... but perhaps the sheer number of foiled plots in America is enough to just scare the living shit out of everyone, so they don't reveal the numbers?
    It's covert ops type shit, they don't want everyone knowing how they do business.
    Spy movies aren't always that far from reality in some aspects.
    In many of these foiled terror plots, the terrorists have been led to action over months or years by undercover agents.  It's a big entrapment game.
    Indeed.... which is largely where the Patriot Act comes in. I know that we had a bit of an issue with that recently, where a plot to bomb the BC Parliament buildings on Canada Day was foiled by undercover agents, but later during trial this became a bit of a problem because of entrapment issues. I doubt the US government agents have the same kind of problems (for better or worse, depending).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Disgusting:
    https://news.sky.com/story/over-100-girls-missing-after-boko-haram-attack-in-nigeria-11267647
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Man of the year:

    The police said the father, driving a Toyota minivan, had dropped off the mother and the two younger children, ages 12 and 9, at the Indonesia Christian Church (to detonate themselves).

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/family-with-children-in-tow-carry-out-suicide-bombings-at-3-churches-in-indonesia/ar-AAxcq6q?li=AAggFp5&ocid=edgsp
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  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    What constitutes a Terrorist attack?
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited May 2018
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Post edited by i_lov_it on
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Would killing aborigines be considered a terrorist attack?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited May 2018
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Do you mean on the part of the Sioux?
    I consider Wounded Knee another part of the genocide carried out by the US government, as well as a battle between the US government and another sovereign nation. So if Wounded Knee was terrorism, then so was WWII, Vietnam, the holocaust, etc.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Would killing aborigines be considered a terrorist attack?
    I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with this?
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    PJ_Soul said:
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Do you mean on the part of the Sioux?
    I consider Wounded Knee another part of the genocide carried out by the US government, as well as a battle between the US government and another sovereign nation. So if Wounded Knee was terrorism, then so was WWII, Vietnam, the holocaust, etc.

    Definitely Genocide no doubt about that...I'm trying to read up what constitutes a Terrorist attack and if Wounded Knee qualifies...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    i_lov_it said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Would killing aborigines be considered a terrorist attack?
    I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with this?
    The Australians massacred aborigines for years just like the US did at Wounded Knee; would you consider aborigines being massacred a terrorist attack?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Would killing aborigines be considered a terrorist attack?
    I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with this?
    The Australians massacred aborigines for years just like the US did at Wounded Knee; would you consider aborigines being massacred a terrorist attack?
    I asked the question first ;)
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    i_lov_it said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Would killing aborigines be considered a terrorist attack?
    I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with this?
    The Australians massacred aborigines for years just like the US did at Wounded Knee; would you consider aborigines being massacred a terrorist attack?
    I asked the question first ;)
    No I don't think they were terrorist attacks in either instance.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    Wounded Knee...could be classed as a Terrorist attack?...absolutely disgusting that is
    Would killing aborigines be considered a terrorist attack?
    I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with this?
    The Australians massacred aborigines for years just like the US did at Wounded Knee; would you consider aborigines being massacred a terrorist attack?
    I asked the question first ;)
    No I don't think they were terrorist attacks in either instance.
    It was definitely genocide though...I'm doing some research to see if exactly Wounded Knee was a terrorist attack...staying on topic with the title of the thread...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited May 2018
    I think it's commonly accepted that the US government committed genocide, and that all of the events that killed First Nations en masse, be it via slaughter or battle, were a part of that genocide.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think it's commonly accepted that the US government committed genocide, and that all of the events that killed First Nation en masse, be it via slaughter or battle, were a part of that genocide.
    This we can agree on...
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,705
    Israel doing the things they are doing the past few days i'd consider to be terrorist acts ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited April 2019
    Sri Lanka explosions: 137 killed as churches and hotels targeted



    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Sri Lanka explosions: 137 killed as churches and hotels targeted



    Gosh, that's awful.  All people wanted to do is worship and pray and celebrate Easter and every faith deserve to celebrate and pray in peace.  Just terrible.  
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Sri Lanka explosions: 137 killed as churches and hotels targeted



    Gosh, that's awful.  All people wanted to do is worship and pray and celebrate Easter and every faith deserve to celebrate and pray in peace.  Just terrible.  
    I heard it on the news and then came across this thread. Perfect example of the thread's focus. 

    I think that some people really care about these type of attacks and are emotionally invested in them and want to make a change -sometimes dedicating a thread on social media to spread awareness is the best that we can do at the moment. 

    I think there are some people who hear about it and think about the tragedy for a moment and then move on with their day, not out of callousness, but because they have so many other things to worry about that they need to attend to that they don't have the energy to focus on something so far out of their reach. Life is overwhelming to many of us and people choose different escapes. Some may come on line and can express their interest in their spare time, or there are a myriad of other less taxing things people can do in their down time, if they have any. 

    I think some people don't give a shit. They hear it, it's over there, let them all kill each other and make life easier for us (without realizing the terrorists would love to kill us the moment they had the means to do so, but are focussing on local places they have decided don't deserve to exist). This group sometimes have strong opinions based upon minimal information. 

    I think some people are unaware of most global affairs. They are also unaware of most domestic affairs. They just don't dedicate much brain space to news except for maybe a half hour local news show, but don't read newspapers or watch any other television news. They get info from friends or co workers or the TV in the break room or doctor's office and they form broad opinions from these snippets. Some don't even go that far. And there are many different types of people who could fall into this category. I know people who are completely uninterested in news, either it's all bullshit or they just have no interest. 

    Just think of the breaking all day news coverage of a fire at an historic church where no one was killed compared to the 50 second mention on the news that this incident received and the 2nd page blurb, optimistically perhaps below the fold,  it will get in major newspapers. 

    News is going to show people what people want to see. With a 24 hour news cycle, I think that these stories could be given more attention instead of an endless loop of what Trump tweeted as he watches Fox news down at his resort. Or the same information about the Mueller report (which is available free, on line, for all to read - don't really need someone explaining to me what obvious information MEANS). It should be given more air time as there is a lot going on and 24 hours  should afford the ability to do so. But obviously the marketing data shows that their viewers are not interested and it comes down to ratings. Perhaps a prime time personality might focus on these stories, but as a whole, there could be more information right now about the attack instead of the same information repeated over and over. 

    The BBC or other news shows will cover it, as will on-line sites. But most people aren't paying attention to that. They are watching their fave channel as they prepare for the holiday or for work and are not interested in immersing themselves any further into world events. We are very ignorant of world news compared with other parts of the world that are aware of what is going on over here. Current events is a subject that should be encouraged more in schools; I've always believed that. As well as civics so that people understand how their country really works. 

    Two more bombings - they've told people to stay in their homes and shutting down social media sites. 140 killed, expected to rise, 500 wounded - foreigners among the dead (I've always found this additional info to make the non-foreigner life less valuable and distasteful). Worst attack since the civil war 10 years ago. I don't understand the mindset of people who love to kill others in the name of some cherry picked religious/cultural view. It's a very sad situation and I hope they are able to stop what seems to be an on-going attack. People should be able to feel safe in at least one place. But Christians/Catholics are seen as infidels in the eyes of these very dangerous self appointed rule making assholes. 

    End of thought.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    This is awful, the hate that resides within some is astonishing.  The ones that carried out these attacks do not deserve to be called humans.

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