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  • ldent42 said:

    I'm sorry my memory was playing tricks on me. It was $455/day not $500. So it's $14,000/month not 15. Wasn't trying to exaggerate, just forgot the exact number.

    You must be Irish with exaggeration like that…

    Please Cut and Paste this response to the Obama thread. People there seem to think that ObamaCare is still good.

    Healthcare sucks in general!
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859

    ldent42 said:

    I'm sorry my memory was playing tricks on me. It was $455/day not $500. So it's $14,000/month not 15. Wasn't trying to exaggerate, just forgot the exact number.

    You must be Irish with exaggeration like that…

    Please Cut and Paste this response to the Obama thread. People there seem to think that ObamaCare is still good.

    Healthcare sucks in general!
    This is medicare though not medicaid. She didnt qualify for medicaid cuz she owns a house. The social worker was like "sell the house, that will cover your bills." FUN TIMES. I don't think the ACA had anything to do with medicare.
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  • ldent42 said:

    ldent42 said:

    I'm sorry my memory was playing tricks on me. It was $455/day not $500. So it's $14,000/month not 15. Wasn't trying to exaggerate, just forgot the exact number.

    You must be Irish with exaggeration like that…

    Please Cut and Paste this response to the Obama thread. People there seem to think that ObamaCare is still good.

    Healthcare sucks in general!
    This is medicare though not medicaid. She didnt qualify for medicaid cuz she owns a house. The social worker was like "sell the house, that will cover your bills." FUN TIMES. I don't think the ACA had anything to do with medicare.
    GIRL! You need to post this other places too!!!
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    There's like 40 obama threads! lol I dont know which one to use
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    What's your retirement savings look like? Are those chickens still laying golden eggs?

    Money is a necessary evil so I'm not sure how you can function without it unless you're off grid which you apparently are not.

    I'm curious and also impressed that you don't need money. Please share.
    When did I say I don't need money? Money is a means, which means it is needed to accomplish the things that keep a person alive and happy. It is not an end, which means money is not being alive and happy.
    We make money to pay for the things we need, and we invest (most of) the surplus in skills and things that will enable us to need less money. Makes a bit more sense to me than investing money in money so you will have more money.

    Retirement savings is not as big a concern for us as it is most people. We don't succumb to the external pressures which drive a person to sacrifice time in their youth to bank up for their old age. That's not to say we have zero savings or plans, only that it doesn't weigh on our minds like it does for people like you. We will live simply from now until we die (at old age hopefully, but not everyone is so lucky) and we won't need some massive nest egg to do so.
    Brother, cousin, uncle, aunt, nephew, and good friend. I have lost one of each before they reached the age of 35...Not everyone is lucky enough to retire, I'd rather spend my time well and worry about being old when I get there. Simon will feed the chickens for his old man when my bones are rickety crickety, and yes, they will always be laying delicious golden treasures!
    There's no time to be void, or save up on life, you gotta spend it all!
    I don't suppose you want to hear from the perspective of the adult child of a senior citizen who was abruptly laid off and then injured, amassing $15,000/month in out of pocket medical payments (yes, that's what had to be picked up after Medicare parts A, B, D and the supplemental.) about thoughts on "massive nest eggs" do you?
    Medical bills like that are beyond the reach of retirement savings anyways... What are they gonna do? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip!
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    isn't medical the number 1 cause of bankruptcy in the US?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited January 2016

    ldent42 said:

    I'm sorry my memory was playing tricks on me. It was $455/day not $500. So it's $14,000/month not 15. Wasn't trying to exaggerate, just forgot the exact number.

    You must be Irish with exaggeration like that…

    Please Cut and Paste this response to the Obama thread. People there seem to think that ObamaCare is still good.

    Healthcare sucks in general!
    I like the Healthcare in Canada just fine. No one goes broke to treat an illness and no one ever dies because they can't afford care. If i have to be rushed to the hospital or get cancer, whether or not I can afford the care I need would never cross my mind. Total non-issue for the most part. I actually can't imagine having such a burden hanging over me. If polaris's Stat about bankruptcy in the US is right, that is sickening. I think the US Healthcare system is one big human rights violation.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    What's your retirement savings look like? Are those chickens still laying golden eggs?

    Money is a necessary evil so I'm not sure how you can function without it unless you're off grid which you apparently are not.

    I'm curious and also impressed that you don't need money. Please share.
    When did I say I don't need money? Money is a means, which means it is needed to accomplish the things that keep a person alive and happy. It is not an end, which means money is not being alive and happy.
    We make money to pay for the things we need, and we invest (most of) the surplus in skills and things that will enable us to need less money. Makes a bit more sense to me than investing money in money so you will have more money.

    Retirement savings is not as big a concern for us as it is most people. We don't succumb to the external pressures which drive a person to sacrifice time in their youth to bank up for their old age. That's not to say we have zero savings or plans, only that it doesn't weigh on our minds like it does for people like you. We will live simply from now until we die (at old age hopefully, but not everyone is so lucky) and we won't need some massive nest egg to do so.
    Brother, cousin, uncle, aunt, nephew, and good friend. I have lost one of each before they reached the age of 35...Not everyone is lucky enough to retire, I'd rather spend my time well and worry about being old when I get there. Simon will feed the chickens for his old man when my bones are rickety crickety, and yes, they will always be laying delicious golden treasures!
    There's no time to be void, or save up on life, you gotta spend it all!
    I don't suppose you want to hear from the perspective of the adult child of a senior citizen who was abruptly laid off and then injured, amassing $15,000/month in out of pocket medical payments (yes, that's what had to be picked up after Medicare parts A, B, D and the supplemental.) about thoughts on "massive nest eggs" do you?
    Medical bills like that are beyond the reach of retirement savings anyways... What are they gonna do? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip!
    i really, truly encourage you to look into that further before you get yourself into a big fucking hole one day.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    What's your retirement savings look like? Are those chickens still laying golden eggs?

    Money is a necessary evil so I'm not sure how you can function without it unless you're off grid which you apparently are not.

    I'm curious and also impressed that you don't need money. Please share.
    When did I say I don't need money? Money is a means, which means it is needed to accomplish the things that keep a person alive and happy. It is not an end, which means money is not being alive and happy.
    We make money to pay for the things we need, and we invest (most of) the surplus in skills and things that will enable us to need less money. Makes a bit more sense to me than investing money in money so you will have more money.

    Retirement savings is not as big a concern for us as it is most people. We don't succumb to the external pressures which drive a person to sacrifice time in their youth to bank up for their old age. That's not to say we have zero savings or plans, only that it doesn't weigh on our minds like it does for people like you. We will live simply from now until we die (at old age hopefully, but not everyone is so lucky) and we won't need some massive nest egg to do so.
    Brother, cousin, uncle, aunt, nephew, and good friend. I have lost one of each before they reached the age of 35...Not everyone is lucky enough to retire, I'd rather spend my time well and worry about being old when I get there. Simon will feed the chickens for his old man when my bones are rickety crickety, and yes, they will always be laying delicious golden treasures!
    There's no time to be void, or save up on life, you gotta spend it all!
    I don't suppose you want to hear from the perspective of the adult child of a senior citizen who was abruptly laid off and then injured, amassing $15,000/month in out of pocket medical payments (yes, that's what had to be picked up after Medicare parts A, B, D and the supplemental.) about thoughts on "massive nest eggs" do you?
    Medical bills like that are beyond the reach of retirement savings anyways... What are they gonna do? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip!
    i really, truly encourage you to look into that further before you get yourself into a big fucking hole one day.
    Oooooohhh big scary debts...ahhh I'm shaking' in my boots lol
    Y'all take finances too seriously!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    Hard time caring about the stock market? According to you it is at an all-time high and we should congratulate Obama for making it so!
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    Hard time caring about the stock market? According to you it is at an all-time high and we should congratulate Obama for making it so!
    Just because I don't give a shit about it doesn't mean the gains are invalidated or irrelevant.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    What's your retirement savings look like? Are those chickens still laying golden eggs?

    Money is a necessary evil so I'm not sure how you can function without it unless you're off grid which you apparently are not.

    I'm curious and also impressed that you don't need money. Please share.
    When did I say I don't need money? Money is a means, which means it is needed to accomplish the things that keep a person alive and happy. It is not an end, which means money is not being alive and happy.
    We make money to pay for the things we need, and we invest (most of) the surplus in skills and things that will enable us to need less money. Makes a bit more sense to me than investing money in money so you will have more money.

    Retirement savings is not as big a concern for us as it is most people. We don't succumb to the external pressures which drive a person to sacrifice time in their youth to bank up for their old age. That's not to say we have zero savings or plans, only that it doesn't weigh on our minds like it does for people like you. We will live simply from now until we die (at old age hopefully, but not everyone is so lucky) and we won't need some massive nest egg to do so.
    Brother, cousin, uncle, aunt, nephew, and good friend. I have lost one of each before they reached the age of 35...Not everyone is lucky enough to retire, I'd rather spend my time well and worry about being old when I get there. Simon will feed the chickens for his old man when my bones are rickety crickety, and yes, they will always be laying delicious golden treasures!
    There's no time to be void, or save up on life, you gotta spend it all!
    I don't suppose you want to hear from the perspective of the adult child of a senior citizen who was abruptly laid off and then injured, amassing $15,000/month in out of pocket medical payments (yes, that's what had to be picked up after Medicare parts A, B, D and the supplemental.) about thoughts on "massive nest eggs" do you?
    Medical bills like that are beyond the reach of retirement savings anyways... What are they gonna do? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip!
    i really, truly encourage you to look into that further before you get yourself into a big fucking hole one day.
    Oooooohhh big scary debts...ahhh I'm shaking' in my boots lol
    Y'all take finances too seriously!
    yo, you can make fun all you want. I'm trying to help you out. Clearly you've got no idea what it's like to be that situation, and because I'm not a piece of shit, I truly, truly hope you never do. :peace:
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    What's your retirement savings look like? Are those chickens still laying golden eggs?

    Money is a necessary evil so I'm not sure how you can function without it unless you're off grid which you apparently are not.

    I'm curious and also impressed that you don't need money. Please share.
    When did I say I don't need money? Money is a means, which means it is needed to accomplish the things that keep a person alive and happy. It is not an end, which means money is not being alive and happy.
    We make money to pay for the things we need, and we invest (most of) the surplus in skills and things that will enable us to need less money. Makes a bit more sense to me than investing money in money so you will have more money.

    Retirement savings is not as big a concern for us as it is most people. We don't succumb to the external pressures which drive a person to sacrifice time in their youth to bank up for their old age. That's not to say we have zero savings or plans, only that it doesn't weigh on our minds like it does for people like you. We will live simply from now until we die (at old age hopefully, but not everyone is so lucky) and we won't need some massive nest egg to do so.
    Brother, cousin, uncle, aunt, nephew, and good friend. I have lost one of each before they reached the age of 35...Not everyone is lucky enough to retire, I'd rather spend my time well and worry about being old when I get there. Simon will feed the chickens for his old man when my bones are rickety crickety, and yes, they will always be laying delicious golden treasures!
    There's no time to be void, or save up on life, you gotta spend it all!
    I don't suppose you want to hear from the perspective of the adult child of a senior citizen who was abruptly laid off and then injured, amassing $15,000/month in out of pocket medical payments (yes, that's what had to be picked up after Medicare parts A, B, D and the supplemental.) about thoughts on "massive nest eggs" do you?
    Medical bills like that are beyond the reach of retirement savings anyways... What are they gonna do? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip!
    i really, truly encourage you to look into that further before you get yourself into a big fucking hole one day.
    Oooooohhh big scary debts...ahhh I'm shaking' in my boots lol
    Y'all take finances too seriously!
    yo, you can make fun all you want. I'm trying to help you out. Clearly you've got no idea what it's like to be that situation, and because I'm not a piece of shit, I truly, truly hope you never do. :peace:
    Yeah, I was joking around... I know exactly what it's like to be more than a hundred thousand dollars in debt... I don't let it bother me at all. They get what I can give and until they bring back debtors prison (that's no joke there) I won't stress about it!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    What's your retirement savings look like? Are those chickens still laying golden eggs?

    Money is a necessary evil so I'm not sure how you can function without it unless you're off grid which you apparently are not.

    I'm curious and also impressed that you don't need money. Please share.
    When did I say I don't need money? Money is a means, which means it is needed to accomplish the things that keep a person alive and happy. It is not an end, which means money is not being alive and happy.
    We make money to pay for the things we need, and we invest (most of) the surplus in skills and things that will enable us to need less money. Makes a bit more sense to me than investing money in money so you will have more money.

    Retirement savings is not as big a concern for us as it is most people. We don't succumb to the external pressures which drive a person to sacrifice time in their youth to bank up for their old age. That's not to say we have zero savings or plans, only that it doesn't weigh on our minds like it does for people like you. We will live simply from now until we die (at old age hopefully, but not everyone is so lucky) and we won't need some massive nest egg to do so.
    Brother, cousin, uncle, aunt, nephew, and good friend. I have lost one of each before they reached the age of 35...Not everyone is lucky enough to retire, I'd rather spend my time well and worry about being old when I get there. Simon will feed the chickens for his old man when my bones are rickety crickety, and yes, they will always be laying delicious golden treasures!
    There's no time to be void, or save up on life, you gotta spend it all!
    I don't suppose you want to hear from the perspective of the adult child of a senior citizen who was abruptly laid off and then injured, amassing $15,000/month in out of pocket medical payments (yes, that's what had to be picked up after Medicare parts A, B, D and the supplemental.) about thoughts on "massive nest eggs" do you?
    Medical bills like that are beyond the reach of retirement savings anyways... What are they gonna do? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip!
    i really, truly encourage you to look into that further before you get yourself into a big fucking hole one day.
    Oooooohhh big scary debts...ahhh I'm shaking' in my boots lol
    Y'all take finances too seriously!
    yo, you can make fun all you want. I'm trying to help you out. Clearly you've got no idea what it's like to be that situation, and because I'm not a piece of shit, I truly, truly hope you never do. :peace:
    Yeah, I was joking around... I know exactly what it's like to be more than a hundred thousand dollars in debt... I don't let it bother me at all. They get what I can give and until they bring back debtors prison (that's no joke there) I won't stress about it!
    and what's going to happen when they end up repo-ing your home? you're just going let all of this financial bullshit fall on your kids cuz you can't be bothered to adult?

    I'm sorry I gotta step out of this conversation. :peace:
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    ldent42 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    We only invest in the real world so I have a hard time caring what happens in stock markets. They won't stop the veggies growing and they won't stop the chickens laying. Money is a means to an end, Americans' biggest weakness is that they see money as the end, not the means.

    What's your retirement savings look like? Are those chickens still laying golden eggs?

    Money is a necessary evil so I'm not sure how you can function without it unless you're off grid which you apparently are not.

    I'm curious and also impressed that you don't need money. Please share.
    When did I say I don't need money? Money is a means, which means it is needed to accomplish the things that keep a person alive and happy. It is not an end, which means money is not being alive and happy.
    We make money to pay for the things we need, and we invest (most of) the surplus in skills and things that will enable us to need less money. Makes a bit more sense to me than investing money in money so you will have more money.

    Retirement savings is not as big a concern for us as it is most people. We don't succumb to the external pressures which drive a person to sacrifice time in their youth to bank up for their old age. That's not to say we have zero savings or plans, only that it doesn't weigh on our minds like it does for people like you. We will live simply from now until we die (at old age hopefully, but not everyone is so lucky) and we won't need some massive nest egg to do so.
    Brother, cousin, uncle, aunt, nephew, and good friend. I have lost one of each before they reached the age of 35...Not everyone is lucky enough to retire, I'd rather spend my time well and worry about being old when I get there. Simon will feed the chickens for his old man when my bones are rickety crickety, and yes, they will always be laying delicious golden treasures!
    There's no time to be void, or save up on life, you gotta spend it all!
    I don't suppose you want to hear from the perspective of the adult child of a senior citizen who was abruptly laid off and then injured, amassing $15,000/month in out of pocket medical payments (yes, that's what had to be picked up after Medicare parts A, B, D and the supplemental.) about thoughts on "massive nest eggs" do you?
    Medical bills like that are beyond the reach of retirement savings anyways... What are they gonna do? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip!
    i really, truly encourage you to look into that further before you get yourself into a big fucking hole one day.
    Oooooohhh big scary debts...ahhh I'm shaking' in my boots lol
    Y'all take finances too seriously!
    yo, you can make fun all you want. I'm trying to help you out. Clearly you've got no idea what it's like to be that situation, and because I'm not a piece of shit, I truly, truly hope you never do. :peace:
    Yeah, I was joking around... I know exactly what it's like to be more than a hundred thousand dollars in debt... I don't let it bother me at all. They get what I can give and until they bring back debtors prison (that's no joke there) I won't stress about it!
    and what's going to happen when they end up repo-ing your home? you're just going let all of this financial bullshit fall on your kids cuz you can't be bothered to adult?

    I'm sorry I gotta step out of this conversation. :peace:
    First of all, this new trend of calling handling responsibilities "adulting" is a stupid teenage fad. I don't "adult", my "bae" doesn't "adult", and we don't get "turnt", "hella crunk", or " lit AF". Nothing about us is "on fleek", and we've never had to say " bye Felicia" to anyone.

    On the topic, my home is not going to be repossessed because we don't think investing our life savings in the volatile stock markets is wise, and failing to fret about the specter of debt is also not going to get our house repo-ed. We pay our debt and when you pay the required amount, you don't get harassed. It's not so hard to understand, though I guess mainstream folks have a hard time imagining, that a person can handle responsibilities and make solid plans without becoming a drone who spends their resources today worrying about a hypothetical future.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • someones shorting the materials market. oil, gas, mining, getting killed. chapter 7 or 11 will be the buzzwords and the ripple effect will be huge. china is in a reset, too many people to fail there. i think death is the new retirement!
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