Pearl Jam's Vs. & Vitalogy Vinyl 2016 Remastered Edition Release date March 25th 2016

darthvedder

juddboz80 said:

I have no idea about the digital files or flac, but the original pressings on vinyl that I have seem to sound better than the represses....Mabye it's in my head, just wondered if others thought the same.... Either way, pearl jam sounds pretty fucking awesome no matter what the source usually!

I think the problem is that they used to master differently for vinyl than they did for CD. The dynamic range numbers back this up, as the original vinyl releases have really good dynamic ranges compared to the CD versions. It seems that lately (and I could be wrong about this) they've approached remastering with a "one version for all formats" approach. They take the original tapes, convert to 96khz/24bit, do their "magic" and then press vinyl and downsample for CD format (and iTunes) from the same source. They seem to have adopted the music industry's stance that louder is better for digital (I blame the popularity of crappy sounding earbuds ever since the iPod came out for this mentality, but who really knows) so they add compression during the remastering process and that's why the quality of the vinyl suffers.

Zod

darthvedder said:

juddboz80 said:

I have no idea about the digital files or flac, but the original pressings on vinyl that I have seem to sound better than the represses....Mabye it's in my head, just wondered if others thought the same.... Either way, pearl jam sounds pretty fucking awesome no matter what the source usually!

I think the problem is that they used to master differently for vinyl than they did for CD. The dynamic range numbers back this up, as the original vinyl releases have really good dynamic ranges compared to the CD versions. It seems that lately (and I could be wrong about this) they've approached remastering with a "one version for all formats" approach. They take the original tapes, convert to 96khz/24bit, do their "magic" and then press vinyl and downsample for CD format (and iTunes) from the same source. They seem to have adopted the music industry's stance that louder is better for digital (I blame the popularity of crappy sounding earbuds ever since the iPod came out for this mentality, but who really knows) so they add compression during the remastering process and that's why the quality of the vinyl suffers.

That sums it up pretty good. Most albums don't get different mixes for vinyl/cd. They all come from the same master, and that master is the source for the different formats. If the master has been compressed to shit, then then both the cd's and vinyl's have the same compression issues. Compression wasn't really used that much in the early/mid 90's. So anytime I see "remastered" applied to album made in the mid 90's or earlier I cringe. In most cases the original will sound better than the remastered.

demetrios

https://shop.napalmrecords.com/pearl-jam-vs-lp.html

https://shop.napalmrecords.com/pearl-jam-vitalogy-dlp.html

hrd2imgn

so we still have no answers, is this a better version of the remix/remaster? Different version all together, or re-release of something already out there?

demetrios

hrd2imgn said:

so we still have no answers, is this a better version of the remix/remaster? Different version all together, or re-release of something already out there?

We won't know till we pick up these new one's released today.

PABLINHO

Banquet has them up but a bit pricey (especially Vitalogy):
http://www.banquetrecords.com/PEARLvsJAM
http://www.banquetrecords.com/vitalogy

hsohi

Banquet is sweet.

demetrios

hsohi said:

Banquet is sweet.

They are. Love their RSD online live sales. Good times!