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narnianarnia Posts: 635
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This morning I heard the 7/13/98 LA show on PJ Radio. The quality was very good, it sounded like SB to me. Are there SB recordings of these early shows, and if so why doesn't PJ release them?
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  • hsohihsohi Posts: 1,033
    Maybe the next vault.
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  • calvo17calvo17 Posts: 440
    If they released Live on Two Legs it makes me think they recorded the whole Yield tour. If they did, they should release the entire set of boots. Awesome tour.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,924
    narnia said:

    This morning I heard the 7/13/98 LA show on PJ Radio. The quality was very good, it sounded like SB to me. Are there SB recordings of these early shows, and if so why doesn't PJ release them?

    one of my favorite shows I attended. I'd love for them to release this.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,815
    I think there are. That how they released msg as a vault. Someone leaked the DAT for Seattle II '98 a long long time ago. I assume that those were available for every show on the tour. Not to mention they had to source the longs on Lo2L from somewhere :)
  • TravelarTravelar Kalamazoo, USA Posts: 3,420
    calvo17 said:

    If they released Live on Two Legs it makes me think they recorded the whole Yield tour. If they did, they should release the entire set of boots. Awesome tour.

    Agree. Although I somehow suspect that the tape would be bad on any cover song, as we've seen with most vault releases. :(
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,281
    i heard that 1998 show also today on the drive into work. love sirius radio especially when they play full shows
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,628
    The LA 98 tapes are not from the soundboard. They're from the ALD. I'm not going to get into what that is here, so you'll have to look it up.
  • TL170678TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    I remember an interview w/ Stone when the 2k boots were released he said he listened to every show of the 98 tour (or a ton of them at least) to pick out the LO2L songs so I am guessing bare minimum we should have more 98 shows available...I would buy them all.
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,461
    darthvedder said:

    The LA 98 tapes are not from the soundboard. They're from the ALD. I'm not going to get into what that is here, so you'll have to look it up.


    What is an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) recording?
    Bootleggers can request an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) headset at an arena concert (required by law for hearing impaired fans), which provides a high-quality feed of a live show using a low-level FM frequency broadcast inside a facility. Bootleggers will tape this headset feed, giving the bootleg not usual problems like random crowd noise or distortion.

    Source: https://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,1046051,1046322
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,461
    TL170678 said:

    I remember an interview w/ Stone when the 2k boots were released he said he listened to every show of the 98 tour (or a ton of them at least) to pick out the LO2L songs so I am guessing bare minimum we should have more 98 shows available...I would buy them all.

    Me too. With all due respect to Boom I wold like more stuff from before he arrived. The sound is a little rawer (more raw?).
  • RS151862RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,717
    rummy said:

    Me too. With all due respect to Boom I wold like more stuff from before he arrived. The sound is a little rawer (more raw?).

    I believe the word you're looking for is rawerest. Count me in as another person who would buy the entire '98 tour. Everything doesn't have to be on vinyl, open the vault and get the music out.

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  • aspoonfulweighsatonaspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,062
    It's a known fact that the band has recorded most all of their shows, especially from the mid-90's on. I mean I feel pretty certain I've read that or have heard it numerous times so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Assuming it's true, thinking about the possibilities gets me excited in ways I'd rather not get into here...
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,400
    edited December 2015
    rummy said:

    darthvedder said:

    The LA 98 tapes are not from the soundboard. They're from the ALD. I'm not going to get into what that is here, so you'll have to look it up.


    What is an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) recording?
    Bootleggers can request an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) headset at an arena concert (required by law for hearing impaired fans), which provides a high-quality feed of a live show using a low-level FM frequency broadcast inside a facility. Bootleggers will tape this headset feed, giving the bootleg not usual problems like
    Post edited by 2-feign-reluctance on
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,924
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    rummy said:

    darthvedder said:

    The LA 98 tapes are not from the soundboard. They're from the ALD. I'm not going to get into what that is here, so you'll have to look it up.


    What is an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) recording?
    Bootleggers can request an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) headset at an arena concert (required by law for hearing impaired fans), which provides a high-quality feed of a live show using a low-level FM frequency broadcast inside a facility. Bootleggers will tape this headset feed, giving the bootleg not usual problems like random crowd noise or distortion.

    Source: https://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,1046051,1046322
    St.Louis 98' is this possibly
    Any 98 show would be amazing!
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  • jason_94jason_94 Toledo, OH Posts: 1,872
    RS151862 said:

    rummy said:

    Me too. With all due respect to Boom I wold like more stuff from before he arrived. The sound is a little rawer (more raw?).

    I believe the word you're looking for is rawerest. Count me in as another person who would buy the entire '98 tour. Everything doesn't have to be on vinyl, open the vault and get the music out.


    "Rawerest"! - Classic! That's right out of my dictionary! :smiley::rofl::rock_on:


    I thought I read or heard somewhere that the reason they did LOTL was because there were either several issues with a lot of the recordings or maybe it was that the band wasn't completely satisfied with how the boots sounded. Maybe it was just that the boots didn't meet their expectations.

    I do not know the source of any things that I just stated and I could very well be wrong on all of it.

    So, carry on... :smile:
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,400
    edited December 2015
    mcgruff10 said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    rummy said:

    darthvedder said:

    The LA 98 tapes are not from the soundboard. They're from the ALD. I'm not going to get into what that is here, so you'll have to look it up.


    What is an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) recording?
    Bootleggers can request an ALD (Assisted Listening Device) headset at an arena concert (required by law for hearing impaired fans), which provides a high-quality feed of a live show using a low
    Post edited by 2-feign-reluctance on
    www.cluthelee.com
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,924
    edited December 2015
    1998 shows rule! LA for vault 6!!!!
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
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  • wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    I taped one of the Binaural shows with one of those hearing impaired devices. The quality was decent but it was a mono signal.
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  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,628
    wecrazybob said:

    I taped one of the Binaural shows with one of those hearing impaired devices. The quality was decent but it was a mono signal.

    The ALD is often mixed with an audience recording to make it sound fuller.
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,461
    As I have said in many other threads, I'd take a Live On Two Legs 2 as a vault release. Sure, complete shows a better but I'll take whatever I can get from the mid/late-1990's.
  • GivenToSmileGivenToSmile Toronto Posts: 231
    Here you go:

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/183871/soundboard-remaster-series-pre-2000-bootlegs
  • TL170678TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    wecrazybob said:

    I taped one of the Binaural shows with one of those hearing impaired devices. The quality was decent but it was a mono signal.

    Geeze Bruh I want a time machine and to be your friend between 98-2000.
  • wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    TL170678 said:

    wecrazybob said:

    I taped one of the Binaural shows with one of those hearing impaired devices. The quality was decent but it was a mono signal.

    Geeze Bruh I want a time machine and to be your friend between 98-2000.
    Yeah. .. I saw a LOT of shows then! NO REGRETS!
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  • BALLBOYBALLBOY Australia Posts: 1,035
    Melbourne 98 was simulcast on triple j here & is all you could want listen to & more from a live performance
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,844
    mcgruff10 said:

    1998 shows rule! LA for vault 6!!!!

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,924
    BALLBOY said:

    Melbourne 98 was simulcast on triple j here & is all you could want listen to & more from a live performance

    Amazing show! After years of looking I finally have the silver pressed cds on the way to me. Killer versions of immortality and porch. Man australiA gets some sweet shows.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    Travelar said:

    calvo17 said:

    If they released Live on Two Legs it makes me think they recorded the whole Yield tour. If they did, they should release the entire set of boots. Awesome tour.

    Agree. Although I somehow suspect that the tape would be bad on any cover song, as we've seen with most vault releases. :(
    The myth that never dies. I think vault 1 is the only one missing a cover, and that was because of a mic issue. PJ has officially released hundreds of cover songs
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