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N.W.A. In The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame 2016

dmaradona10dmaradona10 Posts: 915
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Besides the Seattle seen the other late '80s early '90s explosion was gangsta rap. N.W.A. were the pioneering group to lead the way.
What are your thoughts on N.W.A. making it to the rock n roll hall of fame for 2016? Well deserved in my opinion...
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  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    edited December 2015
    I am glad there in, but they really did only have 1 iconic album. But that album was an album that pioneered a movement and genre.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,079
    Yeah. They deserve to be there.

  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    MedozK said:

    I am glad there in, but they really did only have 1 iconic album. But that album was an album that pioneered a movement and genre.

    same can be said for the Sex Pistols
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.

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  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,573
    BinFrog said:

    MedozK said:

    I am glad there in, but they really did only have 1 iconic album. But that album was an album that pioneered a movement and genre.

    same can be said for the Sex Pistols
    Or Nirvana.
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
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  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    intodeep said:

    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
    I think the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, should really be named the popular music hall of fame.
  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    edited December 2015
    intodeep said:

    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
    It needs to be called the Music Hall of Fame since there are other genres other than just rock music inducted. That's always been my opinion, anyway.
    Post edited by red mos on
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  • lexicondevillexicondevil Posts: 2,062
    I was completely surprised they made it in the hall. They were an amazing, game changing group and they deserve to be there.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    darthvedder said:

    BinFrog said:

    MedozK said:

    I am glad there in, but they really did only have 1 iconic album. But that album was an album that pioneered a movement and genre.

    same can be said for the Sex Pistols
    Or Nirvana.
    Except Nirvana had 3 albums that were all good.
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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2015
    Yet still no Yes, Roxy Music, Iron Maiden, Dire Straits, Cars and ELO but what do you expect from an institution controlled by a magazine that had Kim Kartrashian, Weeknd, Bieber and Donald Trump on their cover this year?

    Nice to see Deep Purple and Cheap Trick in there, though.
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  • youngsteryoungster Posts: 6,576
    Completely agree. Like the Beastie Boys, they were leaders of an entire genre and influenced countless artists after them. Plus Straight Outta Compton was probably my most listened to rap album I own
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  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,573
    BinFrog said:

    darthvedder said:

    BinFrog said:

    MedozK said:

    I am glad there in, but they really did only have 1 iconic album. But that album was an album that pioneered a movement and genre.

    same can be said for the Sex Pistols
    Or Nirvana.
    Except Nirvana had 3 albums that were all good.
    Good was not mentioned. Iconic was.
  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,427
    MedozK said:

    intodeep said:

    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
    I think the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, should really be named the popular music hall of fame.
    You're missing the point completely. NWA are being inducted because of their impact on ROCK AND ROLL. Not because somehow their iconic rap album is a rock album.

    Before NWA (and be clear it was really their 2nd album that exploded in the white suburbs of America, even though the first was the best), there was some impact of rap on rock music but it was spotty. The explosion of gangsta rap and white young people embracing the music and their version of the culture (cuz let's be clear, no one in the white burbs was living the life that life in South Central was really like), it impacted rhythms and lyrics and instrumentation in ROCK. I'm not saying I love some of the bands this trend generated, but the musical impact of rap on rock is unmistakable.

    THAT is the standard that the Rock Hall of Fame mostly uses: how did the band 25 yrs after their first album impact the genre of rock and roll? Public Enemy and Don't Believe the Hype and maybe the Sugarhill Gang are the only two rap artists I can think of who impacted rock more than NWA, and I think they're both already in.

    So you don't have to like NWA or like that they're being inducted, but be clear about WHY they're being inducted, because actually you can't really argue with the impact. It's clear in pre-rap rock and post-birth-of-rap rock.
  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,427
    darthvedder said:

    BinFrog said:

    darthvedder said:

    BinFrog said:

    MedozK said:

    I am glad there in, but they really did only have 1 iconic album. But that album was an album that pioneered a movement and genre.

    same can be said for the Sex Pistols
    Or Nirvana.
    Except Nirvana had 3 albums that were all good.
    Good was not mentioned. Iconic was.
    There are songs on Bleach and In Utero that I'd consider iconic...
    red mos said:

    intodeep said:

    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
    It needs to be called the Music Hall of Fame since there are other genres other than just rock music inducted. That's always been my opinion, anyway.
    Please see my above post - I should have responded to your post with the way the Rock Hall defines their inductees... it's about the band's influence and impact on ROCK, not the genre of the band itself.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2015
    red mos said:

    intodeep said:

    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
    It needs to be called the Music Hall of Fame since there are other genres other than just rock music inducted. That's always been my opinion, anyway.
    Now you know how I feel about KROQ in Los Angeles. They're turning into a pseudo hipster top 40 station and they're playing Adele ffs. It should be KPOP. That station flat out sucks now.
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,573
    JH6056 said:

    MedozK said:

    intodeep said:

    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
    I think the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, should really be named the popular music hall of fame.
    Before NWA (and be clear it was really their 2nd album that exploded in the white suburbs of America, even though the first was the best)
    Are you claiming N.W.A. and the Posse is better than Straight Outta Compton?!?
  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,427
    Absolutely not. S.O.C. is THE album. But it was the 2nd album that entered the charts at #1 and caused the music industry to really stand up and take notice, and it was the 2nd album that all the white kids in the burbs were buying and scaring their parents with.

    As often happens, it's not the best album that gets the mega notice. But it's the 1st album that is "iconic" and that people who know music know was a game-changer in terms of impacting rock.
  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    edited December 2015
    JH6056 said:

    darthvedder said:

    BinFrog said:

    darthvedder said:

    BinFrog said:

    MedozK said:

    I am glad there in, but they really did only have 1 iconic album. But that album was an album that pioneered a movement and genre.

    same can be said for the Sex Pistols
    Or Nirvana.
    Except Nirvana had 3 albums that were all good.
    Good was not mentioned. Iconic was.
    There are songs on Bleach and In Utero that I'd consider iconic...
    red mos said:

    intodeep said:

    LukinFan said:

    I love NWA, but I still don't get how they are considered for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Lots of respect for the group though.
    .

    I feel the same way.
    It needs to be called the Music Hall of Fame since there are other genres other than just rock music inducted. That's always been my opinion, anyway.
    Please see my above post - I should have responded to your post with the way the Rock Hall defines their inductees... it's about the band's influence and impact on ROCK, not the genre of the band itself.
    Just got to read this now- long day at work yesterday. I understand that. You made a very good and solid point. I do tend to overlook that in terms of rock and roll hall of fame inductions. I think I posted before I read your post, but you did bring up a great point.
    Post edited by red mos on
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  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    JH6056 said:

    So you don't have to like NWA or like that they're being inducted, but be clear about WHY they're being inducted, because actually you can't really argue with the impact. It's clear in pre-rap rock and post-birth-of-rap rock.

    Agree completely. Not sure why you quoted me.
  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,427
    MedozK said:

    JH6056 said:

    So you don't have to like NWA or like that they're being inducted, but be clear about WHY they're being inducted, because actually you can't really argue with the impact. It's clear in pre-rap rock and post-birth-of-rap rock.

    Agree completely. Not sure why you quoted me.
    I quoted you because I was disagreeing with you that it should be called "The Popular Music Hall of Fame" - for all the reasons I mentioned above. It's not a big deal, but your comment and a few others seem like you guys don't understand the criteria, or else you wouldn't make that comment. I see that another person I quoted understands.
  • SmallestOceansSmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    Chicago is finally going into the hall... About damn time!!
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