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edpearsonedpearson Posts: 331
edited July 2006 in Given To Fly (live)
Just caught the entire run of the SF shows. Best I've ever seen them play live and I've caught them about a dozen times since '92. That being said, when did they change the way they play "Garden"? This is one of my favorite PJ songs, however I was very disappointed with how they played it on the 7/16/06 show. Seemed kinda fast, intro was different, solo was shorter, etc. The only other time I'd seen them do this was way back in '94 I think (circa Vitalogy) and it was more like the Ten version (but live of course).

Is anyone else disappointed w/ the way they play "Garden" these days? I honestly can't complain about anything else. Maybe seeing Yellow Ledbetter as the closer for three straight shows, but I still like that tune.

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  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    I actually like both ways quite a bit, but favor the original.

    I've only seen it live once (Vegas '06) but my favorite version I've ever heard is from the Stockholm bootleg 2000.
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  • Low_Light03Low_Light03 Posts: 1,227
    I like the new version better now. It's alot harder and since it's not slow like the original, they play it every other night. I saw them play it 3 times this tour. They started playing the reworked version this year. I think they premiered it on that show in the UK. I don't remember the show though. It's shorter but at least it's back in rotation.
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  • Nakedeye66Nakedeye66 Posts: 94
    edpearson wrote:
    Just caught the entire run of the SF shows. Best I've ever seen them play live and I've caught them about a dozen times since '92. That being said, when did they change the way they play "Garden"? This is one of my favorite PJ songs, however I was very disappointed with how they played it on the 7/16/06 show. Seemed kinda fast, intro was different, solo was shorter, etc. The only other time I'd seen them do this was way back in '94 I think (circa Vitalogy) and it was more like the Ten version (but live of course). Is anyone else disappointed w/ the way they play "Garden" these days? I honestly can't complain about anything else. Maybe seeing Yellow Ledbetter as the closer for three straight shows, but I still like that tune.~Ed

    I'll never complain about Garden being played (especially after the long absence ... Tampa '00 until this year?). Having said that, I prefer the old version too.
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The new version dosen't even compare to the old version. Listen to the MILAN 2000 boot and here the way mike makes that guitar purr. Then tell me which version is better. Like the new version love the original.
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,522
    Well I think it was the first time being played this year since 2000. There was a version from Milan 2000 I think which was just gorgeous.

    I personally don't care for the intro but the rest of the song is GREAT! :) The version from East Rutherford 2 is great.
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  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    I actually like both. I like the new version cause it has been Gossard-ized.
  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    not a fan of the new live version. (just my own opinion)
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,522
    any version of garden rocks!
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  • Mac DogMac Dog Posts: 79
    seen it a few times... has brought every show I've seen it at down... except the first one where it was cool cause I hadn't heard it before.
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    It's not as bad as the total destruction of "In My Tree".
  • goldenegggoldenegg Posts: 371
    I love the new Garden. It was awesome when they played it at Toronto #1.
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    yeah its great

    they premiered it at the MTV2 show in Europe Gonzo

    mind you, i love the earlier version just as much

    heres hoping they play it in dublin in 3 weeks time :D
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  • Born2JamBorn2Jam Posts: 255
    Personally, I like the original versions of Garden and In my tree better than what they do with them now.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Garden is one of my favorite tunes off Ten. And this new one isn't different enough for me to dislike it, but I don't like it quite as much as the original. That being said, I still like it enough to be VERY happy when it shows up in the setlist.
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  • obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
    I think they changed it to keep it fresh, or to spark new interest in playing it. I can see how it could become mundane playing "Alive" for the 560th time.
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  • clearermirrorclearermirror Posts: 18
    I like the original better ... the new one, I feel, is too hard and heavy on the beats
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  • askiaski Posts: 26
    clearermirror wrote:
    I like the original better ... the new one, I feel, is too hard and heavy on the beats

    agree. i'm a big fan of Matt Cameron and all (being a drummer myself), but listening to how Dave A. evolved his drum-break during the guitar solo from 1992-1994 is just amazing, drummer-wise.

    listen to any of the 1994 shows, and the drum break near the end (during the guitar solo).

    on a side note, the short hi-hat/splash-cymbal intro to Blood is also 100% ace.
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  • Low_Light03Low_Light03 Posts: 1,227
    I Will Walk With My Face Blood.


    Garden should have been played alot more in Europe. The crowd singing was great on one of the bootlegs where they did play it.
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  • gillsans75gillsans75 Posts: 13
    Please play Garden at Milton Keynes on Friday. I'd love to hear (any version) this live :)
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  • Y. VANY. VAN france Posts: 139
    yeees Garden !!!

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