Vladimir Putin
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The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.0 -
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.0 -
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!
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This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
Ok but I read this...mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country.
"I think you won, but I enjoyed the fight!"0 -
Way before July. It began when he came down the escalator.mrussel1 said:
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
Yes.. when he came down the escalator, the masses were like.... wow....let's see who is cabinet picks are. Maybe I should like Putin nown.BS44325 said:
Way before July. It began when he came down the escalator.mrussel1 said:
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
Uhhh...no. It was let's take a gamble and throw the bums out. We'll see what happens once he gets elected.mrussel1 said:
Yes.. when he came down the escalator, the masses were like.... wow....let's see who is cabinet picks are. Maybe I should like Putin nown.BS44325 said:
Way before July. It began when he came down the escalator.mrussel1 said:
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
What does that have to do with Republicans' favorability for Putin jumping 50 points? Did these old ass voters suddenly forget about the Cold War? Sputnik? 1980 boycott? 1984? Cuba? KGB? NKVD? The Wall? Their hatred of socialism and communism? Nyet. Their preferred candidate has a different view (for some suspicious reasons of course) and suddenly they change their mind... just like that. Lemmings.BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. It was let's take a gamble and throw the bums out. We'll see what happens once he gets elected.mrussel1 said:
Yes.. when he came down the escalator, the masses were like.... wow....let's see who is cabinet picks are. Maybe I should like Putin nown.BS44325 said:
Way before July. It began when he came down the escalator.mrussel1 said:
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!Post edited by mrussel1 on0 -
Either that or YouGov got it wrong again.mrussel1 said:
What does that have to do with Republicans' favorability for Putin jumping 50 points? Did these old ass voters suddenly forget about the Cold War? Sputnik? 1980 boycott? 1984? Cuba? KGB? NKVD? The Wall? Their hatred of socialism and communism? Nyet. Their preferred candidate has a different view (for some suspicious reasons of course) and suddenly they change their mind... just like that. Lemmings.BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. It was let's take a gamble and throw the bums out. We'll see what happens once he gets elected.mrussel1 said:
Yes.. when he came down the escalator, the masses were like.... wow....let's see who is cabinet picks are. Maybe I should like Putin nown.BS44325 said:
Way before July. It began when he came down the escalator.mrussel1 said:
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
Or they are following the pied piper. Do you really think that most voters are critical thinkers? Really?BS44325 said:
Either that or YouGov got it wrong again.mrussel1 said:
What does that have to do with Republicans' favorability for Putin jumping 50 points? Did these old ass voters suddenly forget about the Cold War? Sputnik? 1980 boycott? 1984? Cuba? KGB? NKVD? The Wall? Their hatred of socialism and communism? Nyet. Their preferred candidate has a different view (for some suspicious reasons of course) and suddenly they change their mind... just like that. Lemmings.BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. It was let's take a gamble and throw the bums out. We'll see what happens once he gets elected.mrussel1 said:
Yes.. when he came down the escalator, the masses were like.... wow....let's see who is cabinet picks are. Maybe I should like Putin nown.BS44325 said:
Way before July. It began when he came down the escalator.mrussel1 said:
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
Nope...many just go on instinct.mrussel1 said:
Or they are following the pied piper. Do you really think that most voters are critical thinkers? Really?BS44325 said:
Either that or YouGov got it wrong again.mrussel1 said:
What does that have to do with Republicans' favorability for Putin jumping 50 points? Did these old ass voters suddenly forget about the Cold War? Sputnik? 1980 boycott? 1984? Cuba? KGB? NKVD? The Wall? Their hatred of socialism and communism? Nyet. Their preferred candidate has a different view (for some suspicious reasons of course) and suddenly they change their mind... just like that. Lemmings.BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. It was let's take a gamble and throw the bums out. We'll see what happens once he gets elected.mrussel1 said:
Yes.. when he came down the escalator, the masses were like.... wow....let's see who is cabinet picks are. Maybe I should like Putin nown.BS44325 said:
Way before July. It began when he came down the escalator.mrussel1 said:
So they all magically got patient in July? Please.BS44325 said:
They haven't fallen in line. They are waiting patiently as cabinet members are appointed and real policy is made. They are not making judgements based on tweets. I am anti-Putin and generally supportive of Trump...people like us exist and are awaiting hard policy positions. As I explained a long time ago it is quite possible that Trump's pre-election behaviour might actually be an asset when the push back against Putin and/or China and/or Iran comes. Don't confuse patience with "falling in line".mrussel1 said:
This is all very compelling but completely extraneous to the point I was making. It doesn't matter if Republicans make 5% or 50% of the population. The point is that they've fallen in line with Trump's love affair with Putin. Nothing changed in July 2016, geo-politically. They didn't pull out of Crimea. They didn't negotiate peace in Syria or the Middle East. The only thing that changed were Trump's words and it moved the needle dramatically. Sheeple.JC29856 said:
I see things completely differently...I'm not sure how republicans put party ahead of country when they chose a candidate that ran on MAGA and US first. More telling is that the party wanted nothing to do with trump, in fact most republican leaders banded together to take trump down, vowed not to support him and openly endorsed Hilliary. Keep in mind that republicans make up 25% of voters so I'm not sure how 25% of party loyalists carried him? Why didn't these republicans vote Romney?mrussel1 said:
The point of the chart, in reference to my post, is that Republican voters are putting party ahead of country. What happened in July of 16? Oh yeah, Trump's public lover affair with Putin started. You seem to think Republican voters woke up and discovered the internet and the "truth" and post trite RATM lyrics as support. When this chart really proves the opposite; that the voters are sheeple and following the lead of a demagogue.JC29856 said:
The charts shows opinion of a man, your comments involve a county, how do the two, man and country correlate?mrussel1 said:
July 2016, Al Gore invents internet and Republicans discover the truth about St. Putin.
Can the correlation be applied to say opinions of George W Bush and the US? Barack Obama and the US?
Furthermore, you reference republicans which account for only 25% of the registered voters in US. The chart has excluded 45% of registered voters, the 45% that likely determine the outcome of our elections.
As for unaffiliated or independent voters, they
1. Stayed home
2. Voted against
3. Voted for
We can argue which candidate received more votes against but I'm fairly certain trump won more voting for votes, ignoring the reasons why etc. Hilliary didn't run on anything except maybe I'm with HER, she received votes for being a women, what else? Experience?
Now on to the internet, the internet Gore gave birth to is completely different than the internet now, even 10 years ago. There are many more discussion forums now Aaron Swartz, that never existed before with credibility ratings and up down votes. Hill bots are very familiar with this.
There is no question some are sheep, many don't have the capacity to connect dots and decipher fact from fiction but that will never change. Both sides instead of investigating and having an open honest discussion of where our politics are use the tired lazy sheeple excuse. I could go on but my N'ice Chouffe was just served up. Cheers!0 -
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Russia’s Department for Presidential Affairs is preparing invitations for children of US diplomats in Russia to New Year celebrations in the Kremlin, a spokeswoman said Friday.
President Vladimir Putin invited the children to a series of parties to ring in the New Year that are traditionally held at the walled government compound in the heart of Moscow.
“The Department for Presidential Affairs and the Foreign Ministry are going through required procedures for the children’s participation in celebrations to make sure they will have a good time if they decide to go,” the Department’s spokeswoman Yelena Krylova told RIA Novosti.
This came in response to US media reports that a school attended by children of US diplomats faced a shutdown in retaliation for the expulsion of 35 Russian diplomats from the United States in the row over Russia’s alleged role in Donald Trump’s win. A Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman denied the school would be closed.0 -
Quite the benevolent dictator. I'm sure the Kremlin assisted in the writing of this message.JC29856 said:Russia’s Department for Presidential Affairs is preparing invitations for children of US diplomats in Russia to New Year celebrations in the Kremlin, a spokeswoman said Friday.
President Vladimir Putin invited the children to a series of parties to ring in the New Year that are traditionally held at the walled government compound in the heart of Moscow.
“The Department for Presidential Affairs and the Foreign Ministry are going through required procedures for the children’s participation in celebrations to make sure they will have a good time if they decide to go,” the Department’s spokeswoman Yelena Krylova told RIA Novosti.
This came in response to US media reports that a school attended by children of US diplomats faced a shutdown in retaliation for the expulsion of 35 Russian diplomats from the United States in the row over Russia’s alleged role in Donald Trump’s win. A Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman denied the school would be closed.0 -
My take: Putin used the "you go low, we go high" on Obama, gern-bernish!mrussel1 said:
Quite the benevolent dictator. I'm sure the Kremlin assisted in the writing of this message.JC29856 said:Russia’s Department for Presidential Affairs is preparing invitations for children of US diplomats in Russia to New Year celebrations in the Kremlin, a spokeswoman said Friday.
President Vladimir Putin invited the children to a series of parties to ring in the New Year that are traditionally held at the walled government compound in the heart of Moscow.
“The Department for Presidential Affairs and the Foreign Ministry are going through required procedures for the children’s participation in celebrations to make sure they will have a good time if they decide to go,” the Department’s spokeswoman Yelena Krylova told RIA Novosti.
This came in response to US media reports that a school attended by children of US diplomats faced a shutdown in retaliation for the expulsion of 35 Russian diplomats from the United States in the row over Russia’s alleged role in Donald Trump’s win. A Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman denied the school would be closed.
Obama is really going hard on Russia during his final days for some reason, the allegations of election hacking based on a phishing scheme, the executive order, tossing the Russian diplomats which some say violate Vienna Conventions (I have no idea if true or not).
Notice also that the foreign ministry contradicts what many in the media have been reporting, diplomat shutdown.0
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