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As long as we're discussing former CIA directors we should probably acknowledge that Director Brennan conceded that ISIS was decimated under Bush and had grown exponentially since the withdrawal.
As long as we're discussing former CIA directors we should probably acknowledge that Director Brennan conceded that ISIS was decimated under Bush and had grown exponentially since the withdrawal.
As long as we're discussing former CIA directors we should probably acknowledge that Director Brennan conceded that ISIS was decimated under Bush and had grown exponentially since the withdrawal.
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As long as we're discussing former CIA directors we should probably acknowledge that Director Brennan conceded that ISIS was decimated under Bush and had grown exponentially since the withdrawal.
Here is what happened: In 2003, the U.S. military, on orders of President Bush, invaded Iraq, and nineteen days later threw out Saddam’s government. A few days after that, President Bush or someone in his Administration decreed the dissolution of the Iraqi Army. This decision didn’t throw “thirty thousand individuals” out of a job, as Ziedrich said—the number was closer to ten times that. Overnight, at least two hundred and fifty thousand Iraqi men—armed, angry, and with military training—were suddenly humiliated and out of work.
This was probably the single most catastrophic decision of the American venture in Iraq. In a stroke, the Administration helped enable the creation of the Iraqi insurgency. Bush Administration officials involved in the decision—like Paul Bremer and Walter Slocombe—argued that they were effectively ratifying the reality that the Iraqi Army had already disintegrated.
This was manifestly not true. I talked to American military commanders who told me that leaders of entire Iraqi divisions (a division has roughly ten thousand troops) had come to them for instructions and expressed a willingness to coöperate. In fact, many American commanders argued vehemently at the time that the Iraqi military should be kept intact—that disbanding it would turn too many angry young men against the United States. But the Bush White House went ahead.
Many of those suddenly unemployed Iraqi soldiers took up arms against the United States. We’ll never know for sure how many Iraqis would have stayed in the Iraqi Army—and stayed peaceful—had it remained intact. But the evidence is overwhelming that former Iraqi soldiers formed the foundation of the insurgency.
On this point, although she understated the numbers, Ziedrich was exactly right. But how did the dissolution of the Iraqi Army lead to the creation of ISIS?
During the course of the war, Al Qaeda in Iraq grew to be the most powerful wing of the insurgency, as well as the most violent and the most psychotic. They drove truck bombs into mosques and weddings and beheaded their prisoners. But, by the time the last American soldiers had departed, in 2011, the Islamic State of Iraq, as it was then calling itself, was in a state of near-total defeat. The combination of the Iraqi-led “awakening,” along with persistent American pressure, had decimated the group and pushed them into a handful of enclaves.......
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How many of the oil companies there are solely US based and owned companies?
sure ... oil companies are multinationals ... the issue here is which country was willing to dictate their foreign policy in the interests of these multinationals!?? ... which country that maybe elected a former oil guy, an arms dealer and a war profiteering guy and put them in charge ...
Yes......underneath the screams for the obliteration of ISIS, the goal of regime change in Syria remains unchanged....Intentionally repeating the situation in Iraq. Another power vacuum. resulting in a salafist principality (caliphate)...this has been the openly acknowledged US/allied plan for Syria all along.... But in 10 years, when things have continued to devolve, we'll be bickering about which former POTUS is to blame for the current 'quagmire', how we never saw this coming, or how we did, but just didn't bomb them long enough....gearing up for war against the latest enemy of freedom. How people fail to see the patterns, how they are so easily propagandized to support military actions without asking 'what happens after that?', how resistant they are to trying different approaches, is beyond me. Worse are the people who see the patterns yet still think we have a divine right to 'set the Middle East right' despite the suffering our righteousness inflicts directly in those nations, and via 'blowback' against our own people.
and all it takes is marching out a vet at football games and parades to make sure the people continue to stay blind to what these men and women are sent overseas to do and for what reasons ...
The PR/advertising for the armed forces is huge. Their budget must be 5x that of planned parenthood. That is all what is talked about during football games, the men and women fighting for our freedom.
It is almost like religious indoctrination of entire people. Instead of using religion to control a people, the US uses the military.
Yes......underneath the screams for the obliteration of ISIS, the goal of regime change in Syria remains unchanged....Intentionally repeating the situation in Iraq. Another power vacuum. resulting in a salafist principality (caliphate)...this has been the openly acknowledged US/allied plan for Syria all along.... But in 10 years, when things have continued to devolve, we'll be bickering about which former POTUS is to blame for the current 'quagmire', how we never saw this coming, or how we did, but just didn't bomb them long enough....gearing up for war against the latest enemy of freedom. How people fail to see the patterns, how they are so easily propagandized to support military actions without asking 'what happens after that?', how resistant they are to trying different approaches, is beyond me. Worse are the people who see the patterns yet still think we have a divine right to 'set the Middle East right' despite the suffering our righteousness inflicts directly in those nations, and via 'blowback' against our own people.
and all it takes is marching out a vet at football games and parades to make sure the people continue to stay blind to what these men and women are sent overseas to do and for what reasons ...
The PR/advertising for the armed forces is huge. Their budget must be 5x that of planned parenthood. That is all what is talked about during football games, the men and women fighting for our freedom.
It is almost like religious indoctrination of entire people. Instead of using religion to control a people, the US uses the military.
the CFL does similar stuff. One of the announcers on TSN talks incessantly about our armed forces.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
http://www.aei.org/publication/brennan-admits-isis-was-decimated-under-bush-but-has-grown-under-obama-by-as-much-as-4400-percent/
That isis grew out of the ashes of the elite iraqi army and baath party leaders. That they came into being 4 maybe 5 years ago.
So yes they grew exponentially during the Obama presidency but that they didn't exist 7 or 8 years ago.
Wiki says ( i know) formed in jordan in 1999.
Others say it really formed and grew to what it is from US run Iraqi prisons.
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http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/did-george-w-bush-create-isis Peace
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It is almost like religious indoctrination of entire people. Instead of using religion to control a people, the US uses the military.
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