***The Official Stone Temple Pilots Thread***

HughFreakingDillon

reports are out that they have chosen Jeff Gutt as the new singer. We shall see if those reports are true. He was named as the new singer back in November 2016 by some outlets, and management denied it. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gutt#Stone_Temple_Pilots

he is a pretty man. 

joberschlake

It's sad they are carrying the name on.  STP will never be the same without Weiland.

cutz

joberschlake said:

It's sad they are carrying the name on.  STP will never be the same without Weiland.

I agree, but i guess they got to pay the Bills some way.

2-feign-reluctance

I thought maybe I'd be into all this but nope.

HughFreakingDillon

i was listening to the EP today that they did with chester. it honestly felt like the songs would have a place on some teenager soap opera show, not qualified to be under the name STP. 

the deleos make great music. aoa was great, and so was talk show. i did not like what they did with chester. it seemed very cheesy. they might make great music with whomever they pick, but it really is a tough sell to replace weiland and call it stp. in the case of replacing lead singers, i was reluctant to judge aic, maybe it was because they went with such a different singer, that was obviously not intended to replace layne, but to round out the band, and so much time had passed. this just seems too soon, and their choices too derivative of weiland's style and look. 

my2hands

STP died with Weiland

HughFreakingDillon

in your opinion, but that's really up to the band. 

I think AIC died with Layne, honestly, but I don't begrudge them for using the name. I don't even really think of them as AIC, I think of them more as Jerry Cantrell solo. BGWTB pretty much is a JC solo record. William was rhythm guitar and backing vocals. Dinosaurs was different, and I didn't like it. 

I don't get hung up so much anymore about bands and whatever name they choose to use when they lose their singer. Same with Courtney Love using Hole. I thought it was stupid, but it didn't make me like/dislike the record. 

what's in a name, really? marketing, and nothing more. Talk Show probably would have been successful had they used the STP name. it was a good record. 

2-feign-reluctance

Picked up Talk Show today. Never listened to it before. Really great album. Maybe I can get around it afterall. Just have to see what they come up with. Can't listen to the stuff with Chester anymore. Never liked Linkin Park either. 

HesCalledDyer

Stone Chester Pilots was god awful.

HughFreakingDillon

HesCalledDyer said:

Stone Chester Pilots was god awful.

LOL. agreed. 

ComeToTX

my2hands said:

STP died with Weiland

yup.

2-feign-reluctance

HesCalledDyer said:

Stone Chester Pilots was god awful.

Hehe!!

erocshifty

I bought the Stone Chester Pilots  EP out of curiosity from an mp3 site I use and am glad that I only spent 20 cents for it. That was still too much... 

HughFreakingDillon

yeah, blech. i was kinda hoping they'd go back to talk show.

erocshifty

I don't like AIC 2.0 that much either. The first album was okay, but that 2nd one, not really. Talk Show was a pretty cool side project, though. I think I bought the newest AIC, SCP and Talk Show at the same time and the Talk Show record is definitely the best of the 3.

Zod

I think the problem STP had, was when they tried other projects like Talk Show and umm Army of Anyone (?) the fanbase wasn't really there.   I think the guys are stuck in a place where they can't earn a living without the name recognition.   It's not easy.   It's hard enough getting lightning to strike once and be in a good band that sells albums and tickets.   Lightning striking twice is even rarer.   They've tried it twice and it never really took off.

It's kind of sad.   Every move they make has them playing smaller venues.    They were playing small theaters with Stone Chester Pilots.    That didn't work famously well.  I think it's even less interest with a 3rd singer.

In regards to AIC.  I tend to agree on the studio albums.   On the two new albums theres a song or two per album I find memorable, but that's it.  I don't really spin them that often.   Nothing like the first time I put on Jar of Flies.     I do find the the live shows are pretty good though.   I saw Wiliam Duvall tour with Jerry Cantrell a few times for solo shows, and I've seen him with AIC twice (once in Vancouver, once opening for GNR last year).   They were pretty good both times.    At least there's that

FrankY59

I know Eddie Vedder thinks the drummer is the 'heart' of a band but I really think it's the singer.  I think a lot of people can play the notes well but once you hear the different voice it completely throws me...it's why I hate covers.  

my2hands

HughFreakingDillon said:

in your opinion, but that's really up to the band. 

I think AIC died with Layne, honestly, but I don't begrudge them for using the name. I don't even really think of them as AIC, I think of them more as Jerry Cantrell solo. BGWTB pretty much is a JC solo record. William was rhythm guitar and backing vocals. Dinosaurs was different, and I didn't like it. 

I don't get hung up so much anymore about bands and whatever name they choose to use when they lose their singer. Same with Courtney Love using Hole. I thought it was stupid, but it didn't make me like/dislike the record. 

what's in a name, really? marketing, and nothing more. Talk Show probably would have been successful had they used the STP name. it was a good record. 

AIC 100% died with Layne

HughFreakingDillon

ok, i get it, you are still having issue with the difference between fact and opinion. that's fine. to each their own. 

drakeheuer14

FrankY59 said:

I know Eddie Vedder thinks the drummer is the 'heart' of a band but I really think it's the singer.  I think a lot of people can play the notes well but once you hear the different voice it completely throws me...it's why I hate covers.