Ben Carson for President

mickeyrat

Bentleyspop said:

Ben Carson Campaign Now Says He 'Did Not Seek Admission' to West Point - ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ben-carson-campaign-now-seek-admission-west-point/story?id=35024225

What I find funny in the article is that he said in his book that he "was offered a full scholarship to West Point". As if there were other scholarship options.

You get an appt to a service college. No cost to student except for service time. Major deal to get in.

But as with most who write these things , embellished strongly is par for the course. But I will say he isnt the paragon of honesty and integrity he has made himself out to be.

PJfanwillneverleave1

2:30 on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TAdQ_J6rWg

brianlux

Whoa, check this out. I died laughing...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/06/is-ben-carson-running-a-presidential-campaign-or-a-budding-record-label

"Now that the Carson campaign has released two songs in one week – one country and the other hip-hop – it seems fair to ask whether the campaign is in fact a thinly veiled excuse to launch a record label instead."

Go Beavers

Jason P said:

He must be doing well in the polls. After basically ignoring him, Gawker is going after every story they can dig into right now to discredit him in the past several weeks.

He is doing well. He's in the lead, just ahead of Trump. "Hey, I may be Republican, but I'm not racist, I'm voting for Ben Carson!".

Gern Blansten

PJPOWER said:

mrussel1 said:

PJPOWER said:

mrussel1 said:

PJPOWER said:

mrussel1 said:

rgambs said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598?cmpid=sf

buh bye asshole

Yeah, right. The mouthbreathers that love Carson won't pay any attention to it.

They may not, but this is a pretty damaging story to the general public.

Looks like the whole politico piece was just debunked...gotta love politics.

Where do you see that?

There are several articles out there, but it's Friday and I'd rather not get into a left wing vs. right wing media biased propaganda argument today . I've looked at both sides of this story now, though, and it does seem that Politico straight up lied about some key points. I'll let you research and draw your own conclusions though.

I don't understand. It seems clear that his book said he was offered a full scholarship and now his campaign, after Politico went to print, is saying that he didn't mean that.

Ben Carson did not apply and was not admitted to the U.S. Military Academy, despite writing in his book "Gifted Hands" that he had gotten a full scholarship offer from the school, his presidential campaign told ABC News.

"Again, though his senior commander was in touch with West Point and told Dr. Carson he could get in, Dr. Carson did not seek admission," the campaign said in a statement today.

Carson, as an ROTC student, was told that West Point would process an admission for him, campaign spokesman Doug Watts said."

This isn't left/right stuff here. It seems pretty straightforward.

Don't fool yourself, if you're reading a left leaning or right leaning publication right now, there is a spin. Is politico a left leaning or right leaning media outlet and what is their agenda? I tend not to place much credit in this type of sniping, trying to make something out of nothing. Rediculous in my opinion.

Here is the full email from the Carson campaign sent to Politico.
"Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit. In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer. He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors. They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission."

Politico inferred that he lied about admittance, but in his book he clearly stated that he never applied, just that he had some random conversation in which he was offered a scholarship and that he let them know he was not interested. So who is lying?

You seem to be confusing the campaign email with the book. In the book he suggested that he was offered a full scholarship to West Point. He never applied so, therefore, he could not have been offered a full scholarship....and to suggest that a full scholarship is unusual is another lie since all those admitted to WP get full scholarships.

Politico merely changed the title of their article from: "Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point Scholarship" to "Carson claimed West Point Scholarship but never applied"

The basic story is unchanged...it is now the right wing media that is trying to confuse things by stating that Politico retracted something....they really didn't at all.

Gern Blansten

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598?cmpid=sf

Link to Politico's updated article...you can see that Carson was forced to admit that he was never offered the scholarship.

Gern Blansten

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/chris-christie-ben-carson-215637?cmpid=sf

Christie has no sympathy...

"So I’ve got to tell you, a couple of days of being asked about something that you put in your books? I gotta tell you, I don’t have a whole lot of sympathy," the New Jersey governor went on to say. "He should answer the questions forthrightly and directly. If he does, the American people will accept it. If he doesn’t, then he’s got a problem.”

PJ_Soul

So the GOP leaders, according to current polls, are Donald Trump and Ben Carson??
Nice job Republicans!

brianlux

PJ_Soul said:

So the GOP leaders, according to current polls, are Donald Trump and Ben Carson??
Nice job Republicans!

Yeah, smooth move!

Smellyman

PJ_Soul said:

So the GOP leaders, according to current polls, are Donald Trump and Ben Carson??
Nice job Republicans!

Incredible how dumb the republican base is. What is more amazing to me is....I think they can't get more out of touch with reality yet, every election cycle they bring in more crazies.

Social media may be making them dumber. Steadfast in their idiotic ideals/ideas. It's Herd Behavior....

Wonder who potential running mates will be?

callen

Smellyman said:

PJ_Soul said:

So the GOP leaders, according to current polls, are Donald Trump and Ben Carson??
Nice job Republicans!

Incredible how dumb the republican base is. What is more amazing to me is....I think they can't get more out of touch with reality yet, every election cycle they bring in more crazies.

Social media may be making them dumber. Steadfast in their idiotic ideals/ideas. It's Herd Behavior....

Wonder who potential running mates will be?

Trumps working it. Smart guy.

Gern Blansten

Smellyman said:

PJ_Soul said:

So the GOP leaders, according to current polls, are Donald Trump and Ben Carson??
Nice job Republicans!

Incredible how dumb the republican base is. What is more amazing to me is....I think they can't get more out of touch with reality yet, every election cycle they bring in more crazies.

Social media may be making them dumber. Steadfast in their idiotic ideals/ideas. It's Herd Behavior....

Wonder who potential running mates will be?

Bill Maher always jokes about the republican "bubble" which is the world they create for themselves by trusting nothing but Fox News, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, etc. They have their own narrative for every issue and that narrative is usually about 6th grade level.

Remember how shocked they all were when Obama won his second term so early on election night? Karl Rove was even in denial.

I love reading comments on FB posts where people "can't wait to say President Carson" etc. Absolutely hilarious.

Gern Blansten

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA4s4KsLndI

Gern Blansten

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dan-pfeiffer-ben-carson-analysis

“No Democrat anywhere has spent any time worrying about Ben Carson becoming president of the United States,” Dan Pfeiffer wrote in a CNN op-ed published Tuesday. “I won't waste your time or mine on him.”

InHiding80

Smellyman said:

PJ_Soul said:

So the GOP leaders, according to current polls, are Donald Trump and Ben Carson??
Nice job Republicans!

Incredible how dumb the republican base is. What is more amazing to me is....I think they can't get more out of touch with reality yet, every election cycle they bring in more crazies.

Social media may be making them dumber. Steadfast in their idiotic ideals/ideas. It's Herd Behavior....

Wonder who potential running mates will be?

They won't tolerate anyone even slightly to the left of Hitler. This is why Paul and Kasich aren't so well.

brianlux

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA4s4KsLndI

Haha! Maher cracks me up.

It's not too hard to make fun of the Republican party since it does that on its own well enough. In some ways it is a bit sad though for a number of reasons but especially because we have one party that is in a bubble and/or a state of denial and that makes the other party, the Democratic party look like it's doing a better job than it is or could be. Neither party is functioning great and Dems would do well not to coast or not much will improve.

The 1% must just laugh at all this.

PJ_Soul

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA4s4KsLndI

This is pretty apt, lol. It's crazy that this is actually how it is with millions and millions and millions of people. It's kind of terrifying.

callen

Carson thinks Moses stored grain in pyramids. That right there should get him laughed off stage. How fucking stupid are we?

callen

Sorry Kat. Tough day at the salt mine.

brianlux

Carson wants to repeal same sex marriage laws and keeps making his anti-evolution stance a major issue for his platform. Somewhere I read that Carson tuned into The Flintstones and thought he was watching the history channel. This just keeps getting more interesting and entertaining!

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/11/ben-carson-promises-law-to-protect-religious-objectors-to-same-sex-marriage

Here's the kind of bullshit unnecessary pain Carson as president would inflict on others:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/12/utah-judge-orders-baby-taken-away-from-lesbian-foster-parents