The Predictable Results Of Lowering Law School Admissions

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http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/this_law_school_had_a_30_bar_pass_rate_is_it_a_sign_of_more_widespread_fail


He's turning over in his grave.

Is this the dumbing down of America?

Peace

hedonist

Oh man, I loved him in the Paper Chase. What an underrated show.

I think the bar in general (no pun intended) has been lowered overall, unfortunately. Look at the quality of general education, of products, quality of parenting.

Then again, if your scores/history don't support spending a shitload on law school, why do it? And why get accepted? (well, I get the latter part - $$).

Jason P

brianlux

As long as A's are passed out in high schools and many colleges like candy, the dumbing down of America will continue to get worse.

My father graduated from UC Berkeley in the early 1950's with an engineering degree. I once asked him what his grades were and he said mostly B's and C's and maybe an A or two. I always figured he was smarter and more hard working than I am so I asked him how that could be and did he feel badly about getting some "C"s. With great surprise he looked at my and said, "Why would I? Most people in college got C's. C mean average. The C's I got were in difficult classes so I was fine with that. The only people that got A's were exceptional individuals. That what an A meant then. Exceptional!"

SVRDhand13

Reminds me of when I was studying for the LSAT and someone in my class said that he got a 130 out of 180 on our first practice test and he was proud that he had scored so high so quickly. I did not have the heart to tell him that the scores range from 120-180 and 130 is therefore atrocious.

oftenreading

brianlux said:

As long as A's are passed out in high schools and many colleges like candy, the dumbing down of America will continue to get worse.

My father graduated from UC Berkeley in the early 1950's with an engineering degree. I once asked him what his grades were and he said mostly B's and C's and maybe an A or two. I always figured he was smarter and more hard working than I am so I asked him how that could be and did he feel badly about getting some "C"s. With great surprise he looked at my and said, "Why would I? Most people in college got C's. C mean average. The C's I got were in difficult classes so I was fine with that. The only people that got A's were exceptional individuals. That what an A meant then. Exceptional!"

My father is one of the smartest people I know. (Of course, I'm biased, but there's a lot of objective proof of that over the decades). Recently when I helped my parents move we came across some old report cards from his high school years. What an eye opener! He rarely got As, mostly got Bs and some Cs. We teased him about it but it was clear that the standards were awfully high, and expectations, particularly parental expectations, were completely different. At that time only the select few went on to university; now, almost every middle class parent wants their kid to go to university. The university business has exploded and they have to get students somewhere.

PJfanwillneverleave1

The old saying,
"He could tell you the square root of that pickle jar but couldn't open it"

brianlux

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

As long as A's are passed out in high schools and many colleges like candy, the dumbing down of America will continue to get worse.

My father graduated from UC Berkeley in the early 1950's with an engineering degree. I once asked him what his grades were and he said mostly B's and C's and maybe an A or two. I always figured he was smarter and more hard working than I am so I asked him how that could be and did he feel badly about getting some "C"s. With great surprise he looked at my and said, "Why would I? Most people in college got C's. C mean average. The C's I got were in difficult classes so I was fine with that. The only people that got A's were exceptional individuals. That what an A meant then. Exceptional!"

My father is one of the smartest people I know. (Of course, I'm biased, but there's a lot of objective proof of that over the decades). Recently when I helped my parents move we came across some old report cards from his high school years. What an eye opener! He rarely got As, mostly got Bs and some Cs. We teased him about it but it was clear that the standards were awfully high, and expectations, particularly parental expectations, were completely different. At that time only the select few went on to university; now, almost every middle class parent wants their kid to go to university. The university business has exploded and they have to get students somewhere.

Exactly!

I'm guessing this all started with my generation (boomers). I knew a kid in my first year at S.F. State University who told me quite sincerely that he had never read a book all the way through!