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Brand new vinyl cracks… Why?

tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
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So I brush my new vinyl before I listen to it. I still get some crack and pops through my speakers…

My turntable is new, Project Debut Carbon w/Ortophon cartridge.

All connections and grounds are secure.

Should I be cleaning my records and needle before I listen?

Thanks

Christopher

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    did you drop it on the floor maybe?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    The Juggler said:

    did you drop it on the floor maybe?

    hahahaha! Says the "juggler"

    No opened it up, placed it on the platter, brushed it but I still hear some pops.

    Looking for other ideas?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    tempo_n_groove said:

    The Juggler said:

    did you drop it on the floor maybe?

    hahahaha! Says the "juggler"

    No opened it up, placed it on the platter, brushed it but I still hear some pops.

    Looking for other ideas?
    I'm fresh outta ideas on this one. Sorry. Maybe someone else can chime in??!
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  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    The Juggler said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    The Juggler said:

    did you drop it on the floor maybe?

    hahahaha! Says the "juggler"

    No opened it up, placed it on the platter, brushed it but I still hear some pops.

    Looking for other ideas?
    I'm fresh outta ideas on this one. Sorry. Maybe someone else can chime in??!
    Sure...

    Sounds like you have a defective vinyl.

    I SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A DEFECTIVE VINYL
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    rollings said:

    The Juggler said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    The Juggler said:

    did you drop it on the floor maybe?

    hahahaha! Says the "juggler"

    No opened it up, placed it on the platter, brushed it but I still hear some pops.

    Looking for other ideas?
    I'm fresh outta ideas on this one. Sorry. Maybe someone else can chime in??!
    Sure...

    Sounds like you have a defective vinyl.

    I SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A DEFECTIVE VINYL
    Awful... Thanks...
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    rollings said:

    The Juggler said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    The Juggler said:

    did you drop it on the floor maybe?

    hahahaha! Says the "juggler"

    No opened it up, placed it on the platter, brushed it but I still hear some pops.

    Looking for other ideas?
    I'm fresh outta ideas on this one. Sorry. Maybe someone else can chime in??!
    Sure...

    Sounds like you have a defective vinyl.

    I SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A DEFECTIVE VINYL
    HAHAHAHA!!! I just realized the caps lock was on!!! HAHAHAHAHAH
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,168
    This sometimes happens to me too, which is super frustrating.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    This happens with a few of my vinyls. I have the same TT and the ort red. Probably the same setup as you. Does it happen on every record or just a few? I hear some crackles on my Vitalogy for some reason, but most records are silent.
    Do you live in a very dry area? I've heard that using the acrylic platter can really help on the static. I will likely be adding that. One other possibility could be the preamp itself. If it's on every record, I would definitely try a new pre-amp. Maybe order from Amazon and try it out.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    how was it shipped & was the album warped at all?

    the needle, is it made in hong kong or toyko? A-6 brand?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,047
    tempo_n_groove said:

    So I brush my new vinyl before I listen to it. I still get some crack and pops through my speakers…

    My turntable is new, Project Debut Carbon w/Ortophon cartridge.

    All connections and grounds are secure.

    Should I be cleaning my records and needle before I listen?

    Thanks

    Christopher

    I've always gone with the idea that all vinyl should be cleaned first due to manufacturing residues etc. I use a Spin Clean system which works great. That said, new vinyl can be very frustrating depending on the label/ manufacturer. Just this evening, I spun a brand new, carefully cleaned copy of "1969: The Velvet Underground Live With Lou Reed". Great music, horrible pressing. And yes, the tape source was not great but I'm referring to the actual vinyl pressing. I'm noticing more and more that reissues and new vinyl can be very problematic. See more on that here:

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/202416/vinyl-show-your-best-worst-sounding#latest
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    mrussel1 said:

    This happens with a few of my vinyls. I have the same TT and the ort red. Probably the same setup as you. Does it happen on every record or just a few? I hear some crackles on my Vitalogy for some reason, but most records are silent.
    Do you live in a very dry area? I've heard that using the acrylic platter can really help on the static. I will likely be adding that. One other possibility could be the preamp itself. If it's on every record, I would definitely try a new pre-amp. Maybe order from Amazon and try it out.

    I have an acrylic platter too.

    It was the one record. Everything else I've played is ok.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    tempo_n_groove said:

    mrussel1 said:

    This happens with a few of my vinyls. I have the same TT and the ort red. Probably the same setup as you. Does it happen on every record or just a few? I hear some crackles on my Vitalogy for some reason, but most records are silent.
    Do you live in a very dry area? I've heard that using the acrylic platter can really help on the static. I will likely be adding that. One other possibility could be the preamp itself. If it's on every record, I would definitely try a new pre-amp. Maybe order from Amazon and try it out.

    I have an acrylic platter too.

    It was the one record. Everything else I've played is ok.
    Ohh... I thought you were saying it was happening all the time, not one vinyl. Yeah, bad vinyl I suppose.
  • buck502000buck502000 Posts: 8,951
    which record is it - I would take it / ship it back
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    buck502000 said:

    which record is it - I would take it / ship it back

    Too late now. It was one of the DMB live trax.

    I'm going to try cleaning it.

  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,308
    Try cleaning it up and see what happens.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    STATIC sucks.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956
    Yes, it's likely static. But a real cleaning is also a good idea. I don't normally clean my brand new records because I'm lazy, but if there is crackling I'll wash it immediately, since that takes care of both static and any dirt/dust that might be stuck on it. I don't feel like a brush does much of anything, FWIW.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,047
    Sometimes when I get what seems like excess crackle I clean the needle with some LP #9 from Record Research Lab. Just a few drops on the bush and a few gentle, light brushing from back to front of needle only does it. One little 1/2 oz. bottle/brush kit lasts a long time. It helps some of those times and it's a good thing to do occasionally anyway.
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  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    Gotta love the nuances of vinyl.

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  • sk8nshoot1sk8nshoot1 Posts: 722
    Yeah, I thought that was what made Vinyl so waem and fuzzy for people... The pops and hissing... Go back to CD's if you want clean sound I guess.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956
    edited February 2016
    sk8nshoot1 said:

    Yeah, I thought that was what made Vinyl so waem and fuzzy for people... The pops and hissing... Go back to CD's if you want clean sound I guess.

    Nope, that is not at all what appeals to vinyl collectors. Ideally, a record should have no pops and no hissing. That is always the goal, and definitely the expectation with brand new records.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,047
    PJ_Soul said:

    sk8nshoot1 said:

    Yeah, I thought that was what made Vinyl so waem and fuzzy for people... The pops and hissing... Go back to CD's if you want clean sound I guess.

    Nope, that is not at all what appeals to vinyl collectors. Ideally, a record should have no pops and no hissing. That is always the goal, and definitely the expectation with brand new records.
    Totally agree. Records can be made to sound very clean and clear. And what is kind of a bummer is that older records, especially 50's and 60's that were well kept (or if you're really lucky or wealthy, are still sealed) sound great because they had deeper, fatter grooves and almost always sound great. I'm not sure there as many good record pressing plants around these days. That's what I'm told anyway. Vinyl should and can be an amazing listening source.
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  • LongueuilLongueuil Posts: 2,224
    use wood glue
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