DEAR MR. VEDDER...

DM38016

Here’s a new one, Israel found out that not only must it answer to The Nations of the world but now it must answer to rock stars. On July 11th 2014, Eddie Vedder, front man of Pearl Jam went into a frantic rant how Israel was entering territories that do not belong to them, and killing babies. Wait…what?
It seems that having missiles flying into your country doesn’t allow for military defense according to Mr. Vedder. Is it Israel’s fault that the missile launchers on school property? I suppose if someone were to break into Mr. Vedder’s house and start shooting, he’d take out his guitar and play a tune.
Let’s get down to it; in the wake of the daily stabbings happening in Israel, I ask Mr. Vedder: If it’s ok with you, may Israel please defend itself against terrorist attacks?

PJ_Soul

Frantic rant? Hardly. He never even said the word "Israel". This post is a bit ridiculous.

Kat

Imagine That -- I’m Still Anti-War.
July 16 2014

Most of us have heard John Lennon sing
“You may say I’m a dreamer,… but I’m not the only one.”

And some of us, after another morning dose of news coverage full of
death and destruction, feel the need to reach out to others to see if
we are not alone in our outrage. With about a dozen assorted
ongoing conflicts in the news everyday, and with the stories
becoming more horrific, the level of sadness becomes unbearable.
And what becomes of our planet when that sadness becomes apathy?
Because we feel helpless. And we turn our heads and turn the page.

Currently, I’m full of hope. That hope springs from the multitudes of
people that our band has been fortunate enough to play for night
after night here in Europe. To see flags of so many different nations,
and to have these huge crowds gathered peacefully and joyfully is
the exact inspiration behind the words I felt the need to emphatically relay.
When attempting to make a plea for more peace in the world at a rock concert,
we are reflecting the feelings of all those we have come in contact with
so we may all have a better understanding of each other.

That’s not something I’m going to stop anytime soon. Call me naïve.
I’d rather be naïve, heartfelt and hopeful than resigned to say
nothing for fear of misinterpretation and retribution.

The majority of humans on this planet are more consumed by the
pursuit of love, health, family, food and shelter than any kind of war.

War hurts. It hurts no matter which sides the bombs are falling on.

With all the global achievements in modern technology,
enhanced communication and information devices, cracking the
human genome, land rovers on Mars etc., do we really have to
resign ourselves to the devastating reality that conflict will be
resolved with bombs, murder and acts of barbarism?

We are such a remarkable species. Capable of creating beauty.
Capable of awe-inspiring advancements. We must be capable of
resolving conflicts without bloodshed.

I don’t know how to reconcile the peaceful rainbow of flags we see
each night at our concerts with the daily news of a dozen global
conflicts and their horrific consequences. I don’t know how to
process the feeling of guilt and complicity when I hear about the
deaths of a civilian family from a U.S. drone strike. But I know that
we can’t let the sadness turn into apathy. And I do know we are
better off when we reach out to each other.

“I hope someday you’ll join us,…”
Won’t you listen to what the man said.

— Eddie Vedder
http://pearljam.com/news/0/1/22387/imagine_that_--_i’m_still_anti-war

Godfather.

DM38016 said:

Here’s a new one, Israel found out that not only must it answer to The Nations of the world but now it must answer to rock stars. On July 11th 2014, Eddie Vedder, front man of Pearl Jam went into a frantic rant how Israel was entering territories that do not belong to them, and killing babies. Wait…what?
It seems that having missiles flying into your country doesn’t allow for military defense according to Mr. Vedder. Is it Israel’s fault that the missile launchers on school property? I suppose if someone were to break into Mr. Vedder’s house and start shooting, he’d take out his guitar and play a tune.
Let’s get down to it; in the wake of the daily stabbings happening in Israel, I ask Mr. Vedder: If it’s ok with you, may Israel please defend itself against terrorist attacks?

ohhhh boy a war activist......somebody wake me after this thread is locked, HAHAHHAHA going after Vedder on his own site HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!!!!!!

Godfather.

rr165892

This is so last year.

mickeyrat

Best first post ever!!!!!!!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mickeyrat said:

Best first post ever!!!!!!!

Let's get serious here... this was the best 1st post ever! LOL!!

brianlux

Kat said:

Imagine That -- I’m Still Anti-War.
July 16 2014

Most of us have heard John Lennon sing
“You may say I’m a dreamer,… but I’m not the only one.”

And some of us, after another morning dose of news coverage full of
death and destruction, feel the need to reach out to others to see if
we are not alone in our outrage. With about a dozen assorted
ongoing conflicts in the news everyday, and with the stories
becoming more horrific, the level of sadness becomes unbearable.
And what becomes of our planet when that sadness becomes apathy?
Because we feel helpless. And we turn our heads and turn the page.

Currently, I’m full of hope. That hope springs from the multitudes of
people that our band has been fortunate enough to play for night
after night here in Europe. To see flags of so many different nations,
and to have these huge crowds gathered peacefully and joyfully is
the exact inspiration behind the words I felt the need to emphatically relay.
When attempting to make a plea for more peace in the world at a rock concert,
we are reflecting the feelings of all those we have come in contact with
so we may all have a better understanding of each other.

That’s not something I’m going to stop anytime soon. Call me naïve.
I’d rather be naïve, heartfelt and hopeful than resigned to say
nothing for fear of misinterpretation and retribution.

The majority of humans on this planet are more consumed by the
pursuit of love, health, family, food and shelter than any kind of war.

War hurts. It hurts no matter which sides the bombs are falling on.

With all the global achievements in modern technology,
enhanced communication and information devices, cracking the
human genome, land rovers on Mars etc., do we really have to
resign ourselves to the devastating reality that conflict will be
resolved with bombs, murder and acts of barbarism?

We are such a remarkable species. Capable of creating beauty.
Capable of awe-inspiring advancements. We must be capable of
resolving conflicts without bloodshed.

I don’t know how to reconcile the peaceful rainbow of flags we see
each night at our concerts with the daily news of a dozen global
conflicts and their horrific consequences. I don’t know how to
process the feeling of guilt and complicity when I hear about the
deaths of a civilian family from a U.S. drone strike. But I know that
we can’t let the sadness turn into apathy. And I do know we are
better off when we reach out to each other.

“I hope someday you’ll join us,…”
Won’t you listen to what the man said.

— Eddie Vedder
http://pearljam.com/news/0/1/22387/imagine_that_--_i’m_still_anti-war

I remember last year we had a debate somewhere around the OP's issue and this Eddie quote which I defended. I got shelled with heavy artillery from one poster for doing that, LOL! Bottom line though for me is- I'm still with Ed and John on this. I'm still anti-war.

DM38016

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

rustneversleeps

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

what came first, the chicken or the egg???

SVRDhand13

DM38016 said:

Here’s a new one,

... mentions something that happened a year and a half ago...

dankind

rustneversleeps said:

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

what came first, the chicken or the egg???

I egged the chicken, and then I ate his leg.

rgambs

The Israelists are coming out of the woodwork to get more good, sensible posters banned. Don't take the bait good, sensible folks.

DarthMaeglin

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

While I generally stand on the side of self-defence, what's been at least equally as appalling in this Paestinian-Israeli conflict has been the casualty ratio between the two sides. In the past, it's trended towards 10 Palestinians for each Israeli killed, though the last I saw these numbers were drawing closer in this latest round of attacks by both sides.

Too bad there's no simple answers to resolve the issues of that area of the world.

mickeyrat

I know. Defending your lives home and land from occupiers and illegal settlers is messy business

HughFreakingDillon

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

Ed never mentioned a specific conflict.

hedonist

dankind said:

rustneversleeps said:

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

what came first, the chicken or the egg???

I egged the chicken, and then I ate his leg.

Better that than legging the chicken and eating his egg.

(or...is it?)

Godfather.

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

....................

brianlux

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

Self defense and war are two very different things.

I find it interesting that there always seem to be more threads about war than peace. Is it any wonder we are a warring people?

Halifax2TheMax

DarthMaeglin said:

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

While I generally stand on the side of self-defence, what's been at least equally as appalling in this Paestinian-Israeli conflict has been the casualty ratio between the two sides. In the past, it's trended towards 10 Palestinians for each Israeli killed, though the last I saw these numbers were drawing closer in this latest round of attacks by both sides.

Too bad there's no simple answers to resolve the issues of that area of the world.

Today's NYT had it 50 Palestinians to 8 Israelis in the latest flare up of hostilities.

PJ_Soul

rustneversleeps said:

DM38016 said:

Who wouldn't be for no wars? But I wonder if somebody would you attack you or your family, would you defend yourself?

what came first, the chicken or the egg???

Exactly.
IMHO, both sides are totally fucking wrong.