Should there be a Separation of Entertainment and State policy?

dankind

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

mickeyrat said:

dankind said:

mickeyrat said:

dankind said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

disagree. he has enough people surrounding him with military experience. a leader doesn't need to know how everything works, he just needs to trust those he surrounds himself with do.

But having military experience gives one a common language with the four-star generals in the room, and it gains one their respect. There's enough divisiveness in U.S. government; this is one step toward bridging a specific divide.

And, hey, maybe some experience would lead one to NOT kill innocent American children overseas with drone strikes. Or bomb an MSF hospital into oblivion.

Then reinstitute the draft. With no exemption and/or have compulsory service.

Why the hell would we do that?

As long as we are free, military service always should be (and always should have been) voluntary.

Since it looks like I'll sit out the presidential election for the third time in a row, it doesn't much matter how I vote, but when I vote, I do consider whether the candidate has any military experience.

I think we would hear less of the drumbeat for war and armed conflict that way from congress and other quarters.

Absolutely disagree! The biggest hawks are all veterans, McCain being the perfect example.
Military people want military expansion, that expansion has to be justified somehow.

I would agree. American needs to back the fuck off in military terms IMO. I think the office needs more of an intellectual, not a military strategist.

easy to say while your enjoying the freedoms having a strong military sustains.
do you really think that we would be safe without a strong military ? maybe if we did "back the fuck off" our military spending and support we wouldn't have to help all these people that ask for support then shit on us, do you mean intellectual...like Obama ? hahahhahahhahaha or for that matter any of the current white house players...come to think of it those fools wouldn't be shit without a strong military to back their panzy ass's up.

Godfather.

She's Canadian. And while Canada does have a much stronger military than one would expect (not a slight; y'all just seem so nice is all), I would venture that Canadians enjoy their freedoms and feel safe namely because they've left the rest of the fucking world alone.

EdsonNascimento

I don't see how Obama is any less of an actor than Arnold. He was anointed well before he had any, you know, actual political experience. Reagan had far more experience than he did.

I don't quite get your point unless you're actually taking the Lohan and Kardashian-Wests as anything more than publicity whores.

brianlux

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

OK guys, let me throw this one at you- what about making volunteering for Peace Corps or Oxfam or Population Connection (formerly Zero Population Growth) or 350.org or any other well run organization that promotes peace and/or helps restore ecosystems reestablish better natural balances- make that a prerequisite for running for office. Imagine the United States being the country know for being engaged in promoting peace and healing the planet? I would vote for that. Would you?

hedonist

I'd be happy with the US even being A country known for that. And to be fair, its/our citizens do try. Some corporations and companies too.

I don't really have mandates; have always tended to go by my instinct, and their history. And as much of their character I can perceive.

PS - may want to change the spelling of Corps

brianlux

^^^ LOL! Spelling is defernately not my strong suite,

Godfather.

brianlux said:

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

OK guys, let me throw this one at you- what about making volunteering for Peace Corps or Oxfam or Population Connection (formerly Zero Population Growth) or 350.org or any other well run organization that promotes peace and/or helps restore ecosystems reestablish better natural balances- make that a prerequisite for running for office. Imagine the United States being the country know for being engaged in promoting peace and healing the planet? I would vote for that. Would you?

Brian for president !

Godfather.

Godfather.

dankind said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

mickeyrat said:

dankind said:

mickeyrat said:

dankind said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

disagree. he has enough people surrounding him with military experience. a leader doesn't need to know how everything works, he just needs to trust those he surrounds himself with do.

But having military experience gives one a common language with the four-star generals in the room, and it gains one their respect. There's enough divisiveness in U.S. government; this is one step toward bridging a specific divide.

And, hey, maybe some experience would lead one to NOT kill innocent American children overseas with drone strikes. Or bomb an MSF hospital into oblivion.

Then reinstitute the draft. With no exemption and/or have compulsory service.

Why the hell would we do that?

As long as we are free, military service always should be (and always should have been) voluntary.

Since it looks like I'll sit out the presidential election for the third time in a row, it doesn't much matter how I vote, but when I vote, I do consider whether the candidate has any military experience.

I think we would hear less of the drumbeat for war and armed conflict that way from congress and other quarters.

Absolutely disagree! The biggest hawks are all veterans, McCain being the perfect example.
Military people want military expansion, that expansion has to be justified somehow.

I would agree. American needs to back the fuck off in military terms IMO. I think the office needs more of an intellectual, not a military strategist.

easy to say while your enjoying the freedoms having a strong military sustains.
do you really think that we would be safe without a strong military ? maybe if we did "back the fuck off" our military spending and support we wouldn't have to help all these people that ask for support then shit on us, do you mean intellectual...like Obama ? hahahhahahhahaha or for that matter any of the current white house players...come to think of it those fools wouldn't be shit without a strong military to back their panzy ass's up.

Godfather.

She's Canadian. And while Canada does have a much stronger military than one would expect (not a slight; y'all just seem so nice is all), I would venture that Canadians enjoy their freedoms and feel safe namely because they've left the rest of the fucking world alone.

they get their fair share of crap too, but what little I know of Canada I'd have to agree.

Godfather.

callen

brianlux said:

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

OK guys, let me throw this one at you- what about making volunteering for Peace Corps or Oxfam or Population Connection (formerly Zero Population Growth) or 350.org or any other well run organization that promotes peace and/or helps restore ecosystems reestablish better natural balances- make that a prerequisite for running for office. Imagine the United States being the country know for being engaged in promoting peace and healing the planet? I would vote for that. Would you?

Fk that he needs to have been in combat and picked off an evil doer. Have the thirst for blood.

Had the thought that those that served in military would understand the true costs of going to war. Then listened to McCain and so many members of military and changed my views.

rgambs

callen said:

brianlux said:

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

OK guys, let me throw this one at you- what about making volunteering for Peace Corps or Oxfam or Population Connection (formerly Zero Population Growth) or 350.org or any other well run organization that promotes peace and/or helps restore ecosystems reestablish better natural balances- make that a prerequisite for running for office. Imagine the United States being the country know for being engaged in promoting peace and healing the planet? I would vote for that. Would you?

Fk that he needs to have been in combat and picked off an evil doer. Have the thirst for blood.

Had the thought that those that served in military would understand the true costs of going to war. Then listened to McCain and so many members of military and changed my views.

It is a major mistake to underestimate the amount of brainwashing that occurs during military service.

dankind

rgambs said:

callen said:

brianlux said:

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

OK guys, let me throw this one at you- what about making volunteering for Peace Corps or Oxfam or Population Connection (formerly Zero Population Growth) or 350.org or any other well run organization that promotes peace and/or helps restore ecosystems reestablish better natural balances- make that a prerequisite for running for office. Imagine the United States being the country know for being engaged in promoting peace and healing the planet? I would vote for that. Would you?

Fk that he needs to have been in combat and picked off an evil doer. Have the thirst for blood.

Had the thought that those that served in military would understand the true costs of going to war. Then listened to McCain and so many members of military and changed my views.

It is a major mistake to underestimate the amount of brainwashing that occurs during military service.

It is also a major mistake to overestimate the amount of brainwashing that occurs during military service.

rgambs

dankind said:

rgambs said:

callen said:

brianlux said:

dankind said:

Hell just froze over! I (sort of) happen to agree with Godfather.

Since we're a nation that is perpetually militarily engaged, the commander in chief should have some military experience.

OK guys, let me throw this one at you- what about making volunteering for Peace Corps or Oxfam or Population Connection (formerly Zero Population Growth) or 350.org or any other well run organization that promotes peace and/or helps restore ecosystems reestablish better natural balances- make that a prerequisite for running for office. Imagine the United States being the country know for being engaged in promoting peace and healing the planet? I would vote for that. Would you?

Fk that he needs to have been in combat and picked off an evil doer. Have the thirst for blood.

Had the thought that those that served in military would understand the true costs of going to war. Then listened to McCain and so many members of military and changed my views.

It is a major mistake to underestimate the amount of brainwashing that occurs during military service.

It is also a major mistake to overestimate the amount of brainwashing that occurs during military service.

I doubt it has the same detriment to society and the unlucky foreign victims of hawks like McCain.