2016 PJ25 Tour Rumors

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  • Funkez
    Funkez Copenhagen Posts: 133
    So what's the facination with Bonnaroo about? The past line-ups are not that overly impressive, and easily matched by European festivals (such as Rock Wercther). So what should make them perfer that one festival over a Euro tour?
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  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,091
    $$$$$
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  • Funkez
    Funkez Copenhagen Posts: 133
    mrk2 said:

    $$$$$

    Really? An offer they couldn't refuse so they (supposedly) cancelled the whole Euro leg..?
    That has got to be a huge pile of $$$ spiced with a whole lotta sellout...
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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    Funkez said:

    So what's the facination with Bonnaroo about? The past line-ups are not that overly impressive, and easily matched by European festivals (such as Rock Wercther). So what should make them perfer that one festival over a Euro tour?

    Bonnaroo is one of the few US festivals that >90% of the attendees camp. This is primarily because of the logistics of getting everyone onsite, and because it is far away from major cities. This, combined with the fact that they have been going strong for 14 years now, gives it a different atmosphere than your typical music festival.

    While your lineup tastes differ, there are many people that prefer the lineups that Roo has organized over the past 14 years.

    If you are asking why "them" = PJ wants to play Roo? I'm sure the $$$ played a big role, and because they enjoyed the last time they played Roo and want to give us that concert again.
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  • Funkez
    Funkez Copenhagen Posts: 133
    edited January 2016
    FrankieG said:

    Funkez said:

    So what's the facination with Bonnaroo about? The past line-ups are not that overly impressive, and easily matched by European festivals (such as Rock Wercther). So what should make them perfer that one festival over a Euro tour?

    Bonnaroo is one of the few US festivals that >90% of the attendees camp. This is primarily because of the logistics of getting everyone onsite, and because it is far away from major cities. This, combined with the fact that they have been going strong for 14 years now, gives it a different atmosphere than your typical music festival.

    While your lineup tastes differ, there are many people that prefer the lineups that Roo has organized over the past 14 years.

    If you are asking why "them" = PJ wants to play Roo? I'm sure the $$$ played a big role, and because they enjoyed the last time they played Roo and want to give us that concert again.
    Thanks :)
    I get the line-up, it's good but not surpassing the European lineups in my opinion. And the funny thing is that most European festivals are campsite festivals, such as rumored (and much older) Rock Werchter / Pinkpop. Mostly becuase the logistics of getting hordes of drunk europeans home, makes camping preferable :dizzy:
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Funkez said:

    mrk2 said:

    $$$$$

    Really? An offer they couldn't refuse so they (supposedly) cancelled the whole Euro leg..?
    That has got to be a huge pile of $$$ spiced with a whole lotta sellout...
    That's only a huge speculation anyways
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  • Funkez
    Funkez Copenhagen Posts: 133
    rgambs said:

    Funkez said:

    mrk2 said:

    $$$$$

    Really? An offer they couldn't refuse so they (supposedly) cancelled the whole Euro leg..?
    That has got to be a huge pile of $$$ spiced with a whole lotta sellout...
    That's only a huge speculation anyways
    Everything is at this point ;)
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  • halloweenhead95
    halloweenhead95 Croatia Posts: 255
    edited January 2016
    I highly doubt that they cancelled whole Euro tour because of Bonnaroo... I mean, who does that - cancel whole tour because of the 1 gig? hahaha
    They probably make more money on 1 solo concert than festival gig...
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  • halloweenhead95
    halloweenhead95 Croatia Posts: 255
    edited January 2016
    + you can't just like that cancel whole booked tour (without losing money)
    Post edited by halloweenhead95 on
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    Bonnaroo alone wouldnt have cancelled the Euro Tour, but a combination of Bonnaroo, Soldier Field and Fenway could have.
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  • Funkez
    Funkez Copenhagen Posts: 133
    Weston1283 said:

    Bonnaroo alone wouldnt have cancelled the Euro Tour, but a combination of Bonnaroo, Soldier Field and Fenway could have.

    But isn't that more of reverse speculation? in order for them to go for Bonnaroo, Solider Field and Fenway came up as possible "extras"?
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  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    halloweenhead95 said:

    They probably make more money on 1 solo concert than festival gig...

    Festivals pay way more for headliners than they could get with 1-2 of their own shows.

  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    halloweenhead95 said:

    + you can't just like that cancel whole booked tour (without losing money)

    We don't know that anything truly was booked.
  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    Funkez said:

    FrankieG said:

    Funkez said:

    So what's the facination with Bonnaroo about? The past line-ups are not that overly impressive, and easily matched by European festivals (such as Rock Wercther). So what should make them perfer that one festival over a Euro tour?

    Bonnaroo is one of the few US festivals that >90% of the attendees camp. This is primarily because of the logistics of getting everyone onsite, and because it is far away from major cities. This, combined with the fact that they have been going strong for 14 years now, gives it a different atmosphere than your typical music festival.

    While your lineup tastes differ, there are many people that prefer the lineups that Roo has organized over the past 14 years.

    If you are asking why "them" = PJ wants to play Roo? I'm sure the $$$ played a big role, and because they enjoyed the last time they played Roo and want to give us that concert again.
    Thanks :)
    I get the line-up, it's good but not surpassing the European lineups in my opinion. And the funny thing is that most European festivals are campsite festivals, such as rumored (and much older) Rock Werchter / Pinkpop. Mostly becuase the logistics of getting hordes of drunk europeans home, makes camping preferable :dizzy:
    Bonnaroo is definitely one of the most elite, if not the actual most elite, festivals in the US. I would love to travel to some European festivals because i have no perspective of how they compare to the ones I have attended.

    Since this is a speculation, I'm not sure how the rumor that a Euro tour was canceled for Roo because I didn't know one was planed until after the Roo date came out...
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  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
    I feel like I'm missing something. I know this is ALL speculation, but why do we think a hypothetical Euro leg is hypothetically cancelled?

    Again, all hypothetical: If a spring US/Canada tour is moved to Summer, why wouldn't a Summer Euro tour get bumped to fall or even 2017? Why is cancelling it the only theory that I'm skimming over while barely reading the posts?
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  • BeerBaron
    BeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,100
    Gibson said:

    I feel like I'm missing something. I know this is ALL speculation, but why do we think a hypothetical Euro leg is hypothetically cancelled?

    Again, all hypothetical: If a spring US/Canada tour is moved to Summer, why wouldn't a Summer Euro tour get bumped to fall or even 2017? Why is cancelling it the only theory that I'm skimming over while barely reading the posts?

    Because the dates overlap. The leaked European dates started just before Bonnarroo and continued to early July.

    It is entirely likely that they will return to Europe in the spring of 2017, but bumping the European tour to the fall of 2016 seems very unlikely as Euro tours tend to be centered around a series of spring festival dates.
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  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
    edited January 2016
    Sweet.
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  • nycrats
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    i spoke with someone at msg this last weekend and when i said i was hearing pj may 1,2 she said "oh yeah i heard something about that". she was a regular worker, not neccessarily a huge music fan, so she didnt hear about it through any random music blog regurgitating here. they did, as everyone mentioned, have the plan to play there, its jsut a matter of if that whole leg gets scrapped/adjusted because of bonaroo
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    do we think Friday is the announcement?

    I do... and so far I've been wrong 3 times LOL
  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    Do we know for sure when bonnaroo is announced? Or just guessing based on previous years announcements?
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