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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    This OpEd is more than 2 years old, FYI.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    This OpEd is more than 2 years old, FYI.

    PJ_Soul said:

    This OpEd is more than 2 years old, FYI.

    still a good read, I read another artical of his more recent and he stated something that seems to stick with me " pay attention to what he does not what he says"

    Godfather.

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited July 2015
    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America?
    But yeah, of course it's important to pay attention to what they do and not what they say. Although I don't feel like you take that advice AT ALL. You always seem happy to ignore things that Obama does.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Oh, I edited my post after you quoted it. :)
    Why didn't you list Bush up there?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,247
    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Oh, I edited my post after you quoted it. :)
    Why didn't you list Bush up there?
    because the train gets enough Bush bashing as it is LOL!!


    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,247
    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

    I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    well it wasn't a fox news link......but was Krauthammer.

    Why is it interesting?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Krauthammer hasn't been right about anything in 20 years
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

    I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.
    I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.

    Godfather.

  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

    I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.
    I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.

    Godfather.

    You hang with some real winners.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Smellyman said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

    I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.
    I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.

    Godfather.

    You hang with some real winners.
    we're on the train here....talk is cheap and it seems you have a bunch of it.

    Godfather.

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

    I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.
    I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.

    Godfather.

    What part of recovering the economy do they have a problem with, exactly?
    What is this "bad position" that he's put the US in, exactly? Are you talking foreign affairs? Global economy? Domestic affairs?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

    I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.
    I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.

    Godfather.

    What part of recovering the economy do they have a problem with, exactly?
    What is this "bad position" that he's put the US in, exactly? Are you talking foreign affairs? Global economy? Domestic affairs?
    well I won't speak for my friends on that, but if people don't see what is going on and see only obama the savior then that would be part of the problem in my opinion, following anybody blindly is always a risk.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    how about if I ask you, exactly what has obama done for donestic affairs ? or global economy or foregin affairs ?

    Godfather.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    RiotZact said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.

    I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.

    Godfather.

    Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.
    LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.

    Godfather.

    I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.
    I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.

    Godfather.

    What part of recovering the economy do they have a problem with, exactly?
    What is this "bad position" that he's put the US in, exactly? Are you talking foreign affairs? Global economy? Domestic affairs?
    well I won't speak for my friends on that, but if people don't see what is going on and see only obama the savior then that would be part of the problem in my opinion, following anybody blindly is always a risk.

    Godfather.

    Well I'm not blind to anything. I have some issues with some of the things Obama has done or supported (NSA, Israel). But Obama has overseen a pretty impressive economic recovery, so I'm not sure how anyone can possibly not like that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Godfather. said:

    how about if I ask you, exactly what has obama done for donestic affairs ? or global economy or foregin affairs ?

    Godfather.

    Is this your way of avoiding the question I asked first?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    Godfather. said:

    how about if I ask you, exactly what has obama done for donestic affairs ? or global economy or foregin affairs ?

    Godfather.

    If you need someone to tell you these things you are horribly uninformed. Even if you hate Obama you should be aware of his accomplishments.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    hhahhahhahhahhahhahhaha ....yeah sure, obama is and has been driving a stake between the American people from day one everybody sees it even if some will not admit it and if you have to ask me how you are the one who is uninformed.

    Godfather.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    I realize that is the general opinion in your Fox News bubble but the reality is completely different.

    Kind of like how people in the bubble believe dems are "afraid" of Donald Trump's popularity amongst the GOP....truth is the exact opposite.

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    the only reason the gop hates obama and tries to discredit his accomplishments is because one of their own didn't do it.

    are things as bad as the gop will have you believe? absolutely not. but let's not let reality get in the way of a good ol' fox news narrative.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    and to echo what someone said earlier, krauthammer and the gop have been wrong about everything since reagan. why would anybody anywhere place any stock in anything that they have to say?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Godfather. said:

    hhahhahhahhahhahhahhaha ....yeah sure, obama is and has been driving a stake between the American people from day one everybody sees it even if some will not admit it and if you have to ask me how you are the one who is uninformed.

    Godfather.

    I feel like it's the GOP who has been doing that. Very purposefully.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    Godfather. said:

    hhahhahhahhahhahhahhaha ....yeah sure, obama is and has been driving a stake between the American people from day one everybody sees it even if some will not admit it and if you have to ask me how you are the one who is uninformed.

    Godfather.

    I feel like it's the GOP who has been doing that. Very purposefully.
    ........well if I had to answer that truthfully I would say your right but both partys have been doing that for ever and it sucks but obama has done so with more agression than any before him.

    Godfather.

  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Godfather. said:

    hhahhahhahhahhahhahhaha ....yeah sure, obama is and has been driving a stake between the American people from day one everybody sees it even if some will not admit it and if you have to ask me how you are the one who is uninformed.

    Godfather.

    I feel like it's the GOP who has been doing that. Very purposefully.
    ........well if I had to answer that truthfully I would say your right but both partys have been doing that for ever and it sucks but obama has done so with more agression than any before him.

    Godfather.

    i may be uninformed. i want to know some specific example of how obama is doing this more aggressively than anybody before him.

    i think the fox news crowd means that obama is doing so more blacker than anyone else before him.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Godfather. said:

    hhahhahhahhahhahhahhaha ....yeah sure, obama is and has been driving a stake between the American people from day one everybody sees it even if some will not admit it and if you have to ask me how you are the one who is uninformed.

    Godfather.

    I feel like it's the GOP who has been doing that. Very purposefully.
    ........well if I had to answer that truthfully I would say your right but both partys have been doing that for ever and it sucks but obama has done so with more agression than any before him.

    Godfather.

    I totally disagree (I would love to hear some specific examples as to why you think this - what aggressive things has Obama done to specifically divide Americans?). I think that Obama has actually been trying to stop it, actually, but has not been effective against the pointed efforts of the GOP.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I hate that dude.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    The "aggressive" stuff is just Faux News babble. Just another way to get their old white base fired up

    "He's not one of us"
    "He doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism"
    "He is dividing America"

    When one network is the only one telling you that AND that network is driven by the republican party you might want to rethink your source.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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