Charles Krauthammer on Obama
intertesting read.
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So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America?
But yeah, of course it's important to pay attention to what they do and not what they say. Although I don't feel like you take that advice AT ALL. You always seem happy to ignore things that Obama does.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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Oh, I edited my post after you quoted it.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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Why didn't you list Bush up there?
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Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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because the train gets enough Bush bashing as it is LOL!!PJ_Soul said:
Oh, I edited my post after you quoted it.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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Why didn't you list Bush up there?
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LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.Godfather. said:
LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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well it wasn't a fox news link......but was Krauthammer.
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I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.RiotZact said:
I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.Godfather. said:
LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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You hang with some real winners.Godfather. said:
I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.RiotZact said:
I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.Godfather. said:
LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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we're on the train here....talk is cheap and it seems you have a bunch of it.Smellyman said:
You hang with some real winners.Godfather. said:
I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.RiotZact said:
I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.Godfather. said:
LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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What part of recovering the economy do they have a problem with, exactly?Godfather. said:
I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.RiotZact said:
I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.Godfather. said:
LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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What is this "bad position" that he's put the US in, exactly? Are you talking foreign affairs? Global economy? Domestic affairs?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
well I won't speak for my friends on that, but if people don't see what is going on and see only obama the savior then that would be part of the problem in my opinion, following anybody blindly is always a risk.PJ_Soul said:
What part of recovering the economy do they have a problem with, exactly?Godfather. said:
I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.RiotZact said:
I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.Godfather. said:
LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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What is this "bad position" that he's put the US in, exactly? Are you talking foreign affairs? Global economy? Domestic affairs?
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how about if I ask you, exactly what has obama done for donestic affairs ? or global economy or foregin affairs ?
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Well I'm not blind to anything. I have some issues with some of the things Obama has done or supported (NSA, Israel). But Obama has overseen a pretty impressive economic recovery, so I'm not sure how anyone can possibly not like that.Godfather. said:
well I won't speak for my friends on that, but if people don't see what is going on and see only obama the savior then that would be part of the problem in my opinion, following anybody blindly is always a risk.PJ_Soul said:
What part of recovering the economy do they have a problem with, exactly?Godfather. said:
I am speaking mostly here on the AMT, outside the Train 90% of the people I know think he has put the US in a bad position.RiotZact said:
I just ask because it seems like you think most people adore him and criticism towards him is few and far between. That's not the case at all in my experience. Or are you just talking about here on AMT? In that case I could see your point.Godfather. said:
LOL! San Diego has a mixed crowd.. ya know he has done a few things right and I'm not arguing that at all but he's made some big blunders as well, while I agree with health care for people the way its set up know will only be a burden on the working middle class and at that the economy will not be able to bare it for a very long time.RiotZact said:
Do you live in an area of Obama worshipers or something? Because where I live people not only criticize him for his mistakes but tear him a new asshole even when he does things right.Godfather. said:
I'm not looking for excuses to pardon his mistakes, that's about the same as saying so millions of people speed everyday why am I getting a ticket, most presidents have been held accountable for thier mistakes, nixon, clinton, etc. and so should obama and any president after him.PJ_Soul said:So Obama is just like every other president in the history of America? What president has ever done exactly what he said? If those are your expectations, you should hate every president that ever ran for office.
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What is this "bad position" that he's put the US in, exactly? Are you talking foreign affairs? Global economy? Domestic affairs?
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Is this your way of avoiding the question I asked first?Godfather. said:how about if I ask you, exactly what has obama done for donestic affairs ? or global economy or foregin affairs ?
Godfather.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
If you need someone to tell you these things you are horribly uninformed. Even if you hate Obama you should be aware of his accomplishments.Godfather. said:how about if I ask you, exactly what has obama done for donestic affairs ? or global economy or foregin affairs ?
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