The "NON" Bill of Rights

callen

Oh boy.

Think this list should be interpreted for what it's really saying. Maybe later after some coffee.

Godfather.

callen said:

Oh boy.

Think this list should be interpreted for what it's really saying. Maybe later after some coffee.

ahh com'on man hahhahhaha here's one more from 1774

Godfather.

Congress – First Prayer in Congress

O LORD, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, high and mighty King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, who dost from Thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth, and reignest with power supreme and uncontrolled over all the kingdoms, empires and governments; look down in mercy we beseech Thee, on these American States, who have fled to Thee from the rod of the oppressor, and thrown themselves on Thy gracious protection, desiring henceforth to be dependent only on Thee; to Thee they have appealed for the righteousness of their cause; to Thee do they now look up for that countenance and support which Thou alone canst give; take them, therefore, Heavenly Father, under Thy nurturing care; give them wisdom in council and valor in the field; defeat the malicious design of our cruel adversaries; convince them of the unrighteousness of their cause; and if they persist in their sanguinary purpose, O let the voice of Thy own unerring justice, sounding in their hearts, constrain them to drop the weapons of war from their unnerved hands in the day of battle! Be Thou present, O God of wisdom, and direct the counsels of this honorable assembly; enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation, that the scene of blood may be speedily closed, that order, harmony and peace may be effectually restored, and truth and justice, religion and piety prevail and flourish among Thy people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds; shower down on them, and the millions they here represent, such temporal blessings as Thou seest expedient for them in this world, and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come. All this we ask in the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son, Our Savior. Amen.

– First Prayer in Congress September 7, 1774, Jacob Duche, Carpenters Hall, Philadelphia

HughFreakingDillon

riotgrl said:

It is difficult to learn a new language because you have to find a place or person to teach you. It is extremely difficult for adults who migrate to the US to pick up another language without some help. English language classes can be expensive unless you live in a community that has these type of classes for free or cheap usually through a community center. And when are they learning a new language? Many immigrants are working extremely long hours to cover basic necessities. Many feel like working to care for their family is more important than learning the language. However, their children go to school and they speak English very well - they have to because schools won't slow down for them!

+1000.

I used to work in tech support where our biggest client base was convenience stores. Imagine a bunch of Canadian white people trying to understand all the folks calling in trying to solve a problem on their hardware/software who generally run these places.

And every single fucking time I heard one of my coworkers yell after the call "learn some fucking english", I'd berate them and embarass them. these people work 12-18 hours a day putting food on the table for their kids/families. yeah, learning to speak perfect english should be their first goddamn priority for YOUR convenience of the 30 seconds you have to talk to them.

rgambs

Godfather. said:

George Washington – First President of the United States of America

“It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor.”
– George Washington

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable.”
– George Washington

We beseech [God] to pardon our national and other transgressions…
– George Washington, Thanksgiving Proclamation 1789

Oh, eternal and everlasting God, direct my thoughts, words and work. Wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the Lamb and purge my heart by Thy Holy Spirit. Daily, frame me more and more in the likeness of Thy son, Jesus Christ, that living in Thy fear, and dying in Thy favor, I may in thy appointed time obtain the resurrection of the justified unto eternal life. Bless, O Lord, the whole race of mankind and let the world be filled with the knowledge of Thee and Thy son, Jesus Christ.
– George Washington, Prayer

True religion affords to government its surest support.
– George Washington

It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.
– George Washington (this quote is unconfirmed)

Samuel Adams – Signer of the Declaration of Independence

I … [rely] upon the merits of Jesus Christ for a pardon of all my sins.
– Samuel Adams

We have this day [Fourth of July] restored the Sovereign to whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in Heaven, and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let His Kingdom come.
– Samuel Adams

John Jay – First Chief-Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court

– Benjamin Franklin

Thomas Jeferson – President

God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.
– Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Memorial

The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been given to man
– Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Memorial

Daniel Webster – Early American Politician

Education is useless without the Bible.
– Daniel Webster

Noah Webster – “Schoolmaster of the Republic”

Education is useless without the Bible. The Bible was America’s basic text book in all fields. God’s Word, contained in the Bible, has furnished all necessary rules to direct our conduct.
– Noah Webster

In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed … No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.
– Noah Webster, Preface Noah Webster Dictionary, 1828

Joseph Story – Supreme Court Justice

“I verily believe Christianity necessary to the support of civil society. One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law … There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying its foundations.”
– Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, Harvard Speech, 1829

United States of America National Anthem – Francis Scott Key

“And this be our motto, ‘In God is our trust'”
– USA National Anthem, Third Verse

USA Constitution – First Ammendment

“Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth…”
– US Constitution, Before signature text declaring our Christian Nation

Note: “Year of our Lord” means Jesus Christ is Lord of the USA. (Founding fathers didn’t use year of the Lord)

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion [Christian denomination], or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
– US Constitution, First Ammendment (Christian religious freedom brackets added)

Andrew Jackson – President of the United States of America

“[The Bible] is the rock on which our Republic rests.”

– Andrew Jackson

Abraham Lincoln – President of the United States of America

In regards to this great Book [the Bible], I have but to say it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this Book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man’s welfare, here and hereafter, are found portrayed in it.
– Abraham Lincoln

I am busily engaged in study of the Bible.
– Abraham Lincoln

This nation under God
– Abraham Lincoln, Gettysberg Address and inscribed on Lincoln Memorial

And whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God … and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.
– Abraham Lincoln

Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh. (Matthew 18:7)
– Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln Memorial

We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
– Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln Memorial

Whereas, the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the Supreme Authority and just Government of Almighty God, in all the affairs of men and of nations, has, by a resolution, requested the President to designate and set apart a day for National prayer and humiliation…
– Abraham Lincoln

“Intelligence, patriotism, Christianity, and a firm reliance on Him who has never yet forsaken this favored land, are still competent to adjust in the best way all our present difficulties.”
– Abraham Lincoln, President, March 4, 1861 inaugural address

United States Supreme Court

“This is a Christian nation”
– United States Supreme Court Decision in Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 1892

“Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian…This is a Christian nation”
– United States Supreme Court Decision in Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 1892

Washington Monument

Holiness to the Lord (Exodus 28:26, 30:30, Isaiah 23:18, Zechariah 14:20)
– Washington Monument

Search the Scriptures (John 5:39)
– Washington Monument

The memory of the just is blessed (Proverbs 10:7)
– Washington Monument

May Heaven to this Union continue its beneficence
– Washington Monument

In God We Trust
– Washington Monument

“Praise be to God” (engraved on the monument’s capstone in Latin as “Laus Deo”)
– Washington Monument

and there is a lot more......

Godfather.

None of that has a damn bit of relevance. If the framers had wanted a "Christian Nation" they would have codified it as such. They expressly forbade doing so in the Constitution. What they did in their private lives doesn't matter, what they wrote into law does matter.

josevolution

How about we learn the Native American language 1st

Halifax2TheMax

josevolution said:

How about we learn the Native American language 1st

What cheer netop?

brianlux

josevolution said:

How about we learn the Native American language 1st

Quite the undertaking, Jose! There were once hundreds, perhaps even thousands of native languages in the Americas at one time!

HughFreakingDillon

josevolution said:

How about we learn the Native American language 1st

exactly a point I've been making for years, and all I get is an eye-roll most of the time. seriously, can you imagine if current immigrants did what the original immigrants did? come here, pretend to be nice to us, give us raw deals in trades, then fucking slaughter us all? and we bitch that current immigrants won't speak "our" language?

I get so sick and tired of getting emails around christmas every year from family and friends about "keep christ in christmas" and "this is canada, we celebrate chrismtas here, you don't like it, leave" and all that racist bullshit. people don't see it as racist, though. they see it as "patriotic". I always respond to those emails with the same thing: "WE are the original immigrants who changed the original way of life here. respect everyone's beliefs or maybe YOU should leave and go back to Europe".

/rant.

Halifax2TheMax

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

How about we learn the Native American language 1st

Quite the undertaking, Jose! There were once hundreds, perhaps even thousands of native languages in the Americas at one time!

A Cherokee Feast of Days, a compilation of Native American saying for each day of the year is a way to learn some. I'll post one of my favorites when I can find it.

Last-12-Exit

"The founding fathers were a bunch of racist ass holes with a few good ideas."
-Daniel Tosh

HughFreakingDillon

Last-12-Exit said:

"The founding fathers were a bunch of racist ass holes with a few good ideas."
-Daniel Tosh

Godfather.

None of that has a damn bit of relevance. If the framers had wanted a "Christian Nation" they would have codified it as such. They expressly forbade doing so in the Constitution. What they did in their private lives doesn't matter, what they wrote into law does matter.

this country belongs to the people and this country was built and protected by the people,people that have faith in God..maybe not all of them but a very large number of them and that's what I'm trying to get across to some of you, if you believe or not is up to you ...that's your "constutional right" .


Godfather.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit said:

"The founding fathers were a bunch of racist ass holes with a few good ideas."
-Daniel Tosh

sounds like al sharpton...is he a friend of al's ?

Godfather.

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

this country belongs to the people and this country was built and protected by the people,people that have faith in God..maybe not all of them but a very large number of them and that's what I'm trying to get across to some of you, if you believe or not is up to you ...that's your "constutional right" .


Godfather.

corporate america was built by those people who came here and brought their god with them (my ancestors as well). not your country. it does not belong to them. it rightfully belongs to those who were here first. interesting how you have had zero comment on all of those facts in this thread.

brianlux

Actually, to be technically correct, it might be more accurate to say this country was artificially created by powerful people who put invisible political boundaries on maps after most the land was stolen through the process of continental conquest and genocide and if it really belongs to the people maybe it should be given back to the Indians.

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

Actually, to be technically correct, it might be more accurate to say this country was artificially created by powerful people who put invisible political boundaries on maps after most the land was stolen through the process of continental conquest and genocide and if it really belongs to the people maybe it should be given back to the Indians.

yes, that's what I mean.

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Actually, to be technically correct, it might be more accurate to say this country was artificially created by powerful people who put invisible political boundaries on maps after most the land was stolen through the process of continental conquest and genocide and if it really belongs to the people maybe it should be given back to the Indians.

yes, that's what I mean.

You said it first and well, Hugh. Sorry I missed that.

This all reminds me of that "God is on our side" thing. Damn, good of God certainly is a confused Being!

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Actually, to be technically correct, it might be more accurate to say this country was artificially created by powerful people who put invisible political boundaries on maps after most the land was stolen through the process of continental conquest and genocide and if it really belongs to the people maybe it should be given back to the Indians.

yes, that's what I mean.

You said it first and well, Hugh. Sorry I missed that.

This all reminds me of that "God is on our side" thing. Damn, good of God certainly is a confused Being!

oh, I thought you were responding to me. that's why I was confused, Brian. LOL.

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

How about we learn the Native American language 1st

exactly a point I've been making for years, and all I get is an eye-roll most of the time. seriously, can you imagine if current immigrants did what the original immigrants did? come here, pretend to be nice to us, give us raw deals in trades, then fucking slaughter us all? and we bitch that current immigrants won't speak "our" language?

I get so sick and tired of getting emails around christmas every year from family and friends about "keep christ in christmas" and "this is canada, we celebrate chrismtas here, you don't like it, leave" and all that racist bullshit. people don't see it as racist, though. they see it as "patriotic". I always respond to those emails with the same thing: "WE are the original immigrants who changed the original way of life here. respect everyone's beliefs or maybe YOU should leave and go back to Europe".

/rant.

Right there with you on this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Last-12-Exit

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

"The founding fathers were a bunch of racist ass holes with a few good ideas."
-Daniel Tosh

sounds like al sharpton...is he a friend of al's ?

Godfather.

I highly doubt they are friends. That is a comedy bit that happens to have some truth to it.