I hope that 10c has a database or something with names. If this dude is on here he should be banned. Might do the same here in the future. We had enough of these people with their fake merch. We're all PJ fans here and if we pay for something we should get it. Fans to fans. If you do this kind of stuff then how can you sleep at night and how can you call yourself a ''fan.'' Hope everyone gets their money returned or that he has another solution to this problem. Shame that this happend again. But $550 for those items should trigger you. But maybe you think you are lucky for once, but this kind of luck is hard to find.
That's impossible to keep up with - as I guarantee you in the time since Lost Dogs opened whenever that was, there have been assholes come up every so often trying to or in some cases scamming other members.
I hope that 10c has a database or something with names. If this dude is on here he should be banned. Might do the same here in the future. We had enough of these people with their fake merch. We're all PJ fans here and if we pay for something we should get it. Fans to fans. If you do this kind of stuff then how can you sleep at night and how can you call yourself a ''fan.'' Hope everyone gets their money returned or that he has another solution to this problem. Shame that this happend again. But $550 for those items should trigger you. But maybe you think you are lucky for once, but this kind of luck is hard to find.
That's impossible to keep up with - as I guarantee you in the time since Lost Dogs opened whenever that was, there have been assholes come up every so often trying to or in some cases scamming other members.
It's really hard how to trust anyone in this place. There are so many great souls here, but those assholes ruin it for the rest of the fans. A shame. I think you can trust most of the people who are here often. And who have a long membershipment. But, I only joined in 2014, and I would NEVER EVER scam a fan of the band I love. I don't even know how someone has the courage to do such thing. I HOPE there exist such thing as bad karma for them.
It is pretty ballsy to do this on facebook. I know if I were scammed out of $500+ I would be furious. What if this guy scams the wrong person? I have seen people get lumped up pretty bad for less money than that.
what the fuck is it with people?? what a dick. if someone just shit me like that, it wouldn't be legal action taken... it would be medical personnel notified. clearly, violence is never the answer, but you can bet i'd beat the brakes off that fucker until i got an answer.
I'm another person who bought from him. I paid 1050 au for 3 vinyl. Riot act, avocado and lost dogs. It turned out to be roughly 700 usd for the three plus shipping of 120. I felt this was reasonable given avocado was going for around 200. I offered an amount and had room to move he originally wanted 300 usd each. He said I could pay friends and family to which i said no goods and services and I'll add some more on. I did that 7 may. I have nothing. He also sold ld to another guy in au and ra for sale used on ebay. Claims he owns a couple copies, i call bs on that! He has advertised on multiple sites these albums and is still messaging people saying he has the albums I've bought available so now we have 3 ld??? I've lodged a dispute, he's escalated it to a claim today. However i have no tracking number. The first one i got was the same as another person and he's yet to give me another one. why you would escalte it without proof you've sent it etc is beyond me. Anyway he had til 6 june to lodge his info and i will see what happens. Here's hoping they either turn up in said condition so i can spin them but if not I'm hoping for my cash back and I'll keep hoping to find these albums! Lana
I'm another person who bought from him. I paid 1050 au for 3 vinyl. Riot act, avocado and lost dogs. It turned out to be roughly 700 usd for the three plus shipping of 120. I felt this was reasonable given avocado was going for around 200. I offered an amount and had room to move he originally wanted 300 usd each. He said I could pay friends and family to which i said no goods and services and I'll add some more on. I did that 7 may. I have nothing. He also sold ld to another guy in au and ra for sale used on ebay. Claims he owns a couple copies, i call bs on that! He has advertised on multiple sites these albums and is still messaging people saying he has the albums I've bought available so now we have 3 ld??? I've lodged a dispute, he's escalated it to a claim today. However i have no tracking number. The first one i got was the same as another person and he's yet to give me another one. why you would escalte it without proof you've sent it etc is beyond me. Anyway he had til 6 june to lodge his info and i will see what happens. Here's hoping they either turn up in said condition so i can spin them but if not I'm hoping for my cash back and I'll keep hoping to find these albums! Lana
Good luck to u Lana
What suprise me is what someone would thought will happen when rip off people?? thst he will get away wirh it?that people will say fuck it,,i lost 700$.?? people will go after him and his reputation is fucked + he may have legal action against him.. crazy
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I'm another person who bought from him. I paid 1050 au for 3 vinyl. Riot act, avocado and lost dogs. It turned out to be roughly 700 usd for the three plus shipping of 120. I felt this was reasonable given avocado was going for around 200. I offered an amount and had room to move he originally wanted 300 usd each. He said I could pay friends and family to which i said no goods and services and I'll add some more on. I did that 7 may. I have nothing. He also sold ld to another guy in au and ra for sale used on ebay. Claims he owns a couple copies, i call bs on that! He has advertised on multiple sites these albums and is still messaging people saying he has the albums I've bought available so now we have 3 ld??? I've lodged a dispute, he's escalated it to a claim today. However i have no tracking number. The first one i got was the same as another person and he's yet to give me another one. why you would escalte it without proof you've sent it etc is beyond me. Anyway he had til 6 june to lodge his info and i will see what happens. Here's hoping they either turn up in said condition so i can spin them but if not I'm hoping for my cash back and I'll keep hoping to find these albums! Lana
Good luck to u Lana
What suprise me is what someone would thought will happen when rip off people?? thst he will get away wirh it?that people will say fuck it,,i lost 700$.?? people will go after him and his reputation is fucked + he may have legal action against him.. crazy
Not only that, but does he think that people will not talk, either here or FB, or even on the eBay feedback section?
I'm another person who bought from him. I paid 1050 au for 3 vinyl. Riot act, avocado and lost dogs. It turned out to be roughly 700 usd for the three plus shipping of 120. I felt this was reasonable given avocado was going for around 200. I offered an amount and had room to move he originally wanted 300 usd each. He said I could pay friends and family to which i said no goods and services and I'll add some more on. I did that 7 may. I have nothing. He also sold ld to another guy in au and ra for sale used on ebay. Claims he owns a couple copies, i call bs on that! He has advertised on multiple sites these albums and is still messaging people saying he has the albums I've bought available so now we have 3 ld??? I've lodged a dispute, he's escalated it to a claim today. However i have no tracking number. The first one i got was the same as another person and he's yet to give me another one. why you would escalte it without proof you've sent it etc is beyond me. Anyway he had til 6 june to lodge his info and i will see what happens. Here's hoping they either turn up in said condition so i can spin them but if not I'm hoping for my cash back and I'll keep hoping to find these albums! Lana
and this is why you always pay goods and services
btw, I've made a lot of trades / sales / buys on this site through lost dogs and never had a problem, everyone I've dealt with has been awesome
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
How much cash is this guy clearing off people? Where is he getting these severely damaged albums? By the dollar figures I am seeing, if people get together and can prove some sort of fraud, the dollar amount.
Fraud, more specifically 'theft by deception' is a Class A misdemeanor >$500. If it reaches $10K it is a Class D Felony. If we are crossing state and international lines, things probably get worse.
Like I said, it is extremely ballsy to do on facebook with access to personal information there. its strange even.
i'm glad 10c only allows paying members to post. It's a little sense of safety for me, at least you can call out the person, and 10c can possibly assist you (I don't know for sure, but, you could show them PMs and whatnot)-or at least you have other board members to back you up.
If they let anybody post, it would be like FB, you don't know who you're dealing with. I'm still cautious with who I deal with on here.
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How much cash is this guy clearing off people? Where is he getting these severely damaged albums? By the dollar figures I am seeing, if people get together and can prove some sort of fraud, the dollar amount.
Fraud, more specifically 'theft by deception' is a Class A misdemeanor >$500. If it reaches $10K it is a Class D Felony. If we are crossing state and international lines, things probably get worse.
Like I said, it is extremely ballsy to do on facebook with access to personal information there. its strange even.
Every state has different dollar levels of misdemeanor vs. felony. However I believe this also involves mail fraud and maybe even wire fraud and money laundering. And therefore he is risking federal charges and time.
I feel your pain. Around '98 someone from alt.music.pearl-jam (in the old days where people still used usenet as a message forum) offered to sell me the first 6 PJ Xmas singles for about $200 cdn. It was a decent price at the time. I did re-iterate that they were on vinyl and he said yes. He sent me a burned cd with all the songs on it. What a dick. He was a fellow Canadian (from Saskatoon) so that burned a bit more. I remember holding onto his mailing info for years because it pissed me off so much. Not only did I get ripped off, but what's the point of mailing me the burned cd. That's rubbing salt in the wound. I never did anything about it. I found the paper during a move about 5 years ago and turfed it. I guess I got over it. To this day I think it's my only major internet ripoff. I've trusted many other people and not had problems. I guess we all get one.
Dude has a 100% rating on eBay, so...he's made deals. I'm sure some have dealt with him successfully. I'm not saying he's got a good side, I'm saying someone has a name and location for this guy.
I didn't read the whole thread, do we already have a name? Aside from Asshole
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I see lot of victim blaming going on. just because the person didn't do all their supposed research doesn't mean it is in any way their fault.
I disagree.... It is in a few ways their fault (an "oops!" moment - lesson learned!). That doesn't excuse the criminal obviously.
being scammed is never the fault of the victim in any fashion. I think you know the slippery slope that creates....
i think PJ_Soul is referring to a bit of 'buyer beware'...you don't just blindly go around trusting people on the internet and hand them money.
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I see lot of victim blaming going on. just because the person didn't do all their supposed research doesn't mean it is in any way their fault.
I disagree.... It is in a few ways their fault (an "oops!" moment - lesson learned!). That doesn't excuse the criminal obviously.
being scammed is never the fault of the victim in any fashion. I think you know the slippery slope that creates....
i think PJ_Soul is referring to a bit of 'buyer beware'...you don't just blindly go around trusting people on the internet and hand them money.
I know what she's referring to. buyer beware is not the same as saying "in a few ways it is their fault". ignorance does not equate to fault.
either way, back to the topic at hand.
Different definitions of "fault" I guess. I.e. I got scammed on ebay by someone who sent me a bootleg instead of the real thing. Is that person a jerk? Yes. Was I a victim? Yes. Was it my fault? Absolutely. I should have asked for photos so I could confirm that the vinyl was blue rather than black. But I didn't. I trusted the seller more than I should have. My fault all the way. (I do consider ignorance to be a fault, btw).
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she says she's taking legal action so hopefully it turns out well for her
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I did that 7 may. I have nothing. He also sold ld to another guy in au and ra for sale used on ebay. Claims he owns a couple copies, i call bs on that!
He has advertised on multiple sites these albums and is still messaging people saying he has the albums I've bought available so now we have 3 ld???
I've lodged a dispute, he's escalated it to a claim today. However i have no tracking number. The first one i got was the same as another person and he's yet to give me another one. why you would escalte it without proof you've sent it etc is beyond me.
Anyway he had til 6 june to lodge his info and i will see what happens. Here's hoping they either turn up in said condition so i can spin them but if not I'm hoping for my cash back and I'll keep hoping to find these albums!
Lana
What suprise me is what someone would thought will happen when rip off people??
thst he will get away wirh it?that people will say fuck it,,i lost 700$.??
people will go after him and his reputation is fucked + he may have legal action against him..
crazy
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btw, I've made a lot of trades / sales / buys on this site through lost dogs and never had a problem, everyone I've dealt with has been awesome
Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
How much cash is this guy clearing off people? Where is he getting these severely damaged albums? By the dollar figures I am seeing, if people get together and can prove some sort of fraud, the dollar amount.
Fraud, more specifically 'theft by deception' is a Class A misdemeanor >$500. If it reaches $10K it is a Class D Felony. If we are crossing state and international lines, things probably get worse.
Like I said, it is extremely ballsy to do on facebook with access to personal information there. its strange even.
If they let anybody post, it would be like FB, you don't know who you're dealing with. I'm still cautious with who I deal with on here.
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I didn't read the whole thread, do we already have a name? Aside from Asshole
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either way, back to the topic at hand.
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