31 dead, most of them children.

goingtoverona
goingtoverona Posts: 616
in A Moving Train
http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    so very sad but what can we do ? Idea's ?

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    the artical you posted writes it off as little more than a tragic accident on a two lane road and not saying who was at fault for the collision, blaming oil companys seems a little ahead of the story at this point.

    Godfather.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Divided highways.

    Problem solved.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Sad,but this shit happens.It feels so much more tragic when young people are involved.We can't blame the truck or its cargo.Thats nuts.
    You want to blame someone,then blame the dumb ass interior dept of Morraco for having horse carts for roads.The story says how bad they are.Sounds like the drivers aren't much better and that this is an ongoing issue.Hello!!!
    So there it is.Get into this millennium Morraco and fix your major roads and less people will die.Some guard rails and lane markers. may also help.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJ_Soul said:

    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    You understand that this was an effort to poke holes in the gun reform argument?

    He's comparing automobiles designed for transportation to guns designed to kill.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    You understand that this was an effort to poke holes in the gun reform argument?

    He's comparing automobiles designed for transportation to guns designed to kill.
    I thought he was talking about the relationship between our dependence on oil and the tanker that the bus ran into... or maybe that if we'd stop using vehicles at all there would be no traffic accidents.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I was assuming it was sarcasm but wasn't exactly sure what or who the target was. I do like the image of kittens in scuba gear, though.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    edited April 2015
    Maybe this will help explain the bad road conditions: (poverty and unequal distribution of wealth):

    "Living standards in Morocco are low by international standards and have declined continually since the early 1990s. As a result, the number of Moroccans living below the poverty line has risen sharply in the last decade. Although poverty levels dropped to 13 percent in 1991, some 19 percent of the population lived below the poverty line in 2000. Despite widespread poverty, uneven development has led to the emergence of an affluent class that controls most of the country's wealth and enjoys an elevated standard of living."

    Read more: http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Africa/Morocco-POVERTY-AND-WEALTH.html#

    I do agree, goingtoverona, being in a hurry (and texting and cell phoning and hair combing etc., while driving) is a big part of the problem.
    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    Well well, common sense!

    Brian, I've actually had people act dumbfounded when I tell them I don't talk or text in the car - phone's always in my purse even if it rings while I'm driving.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    hedonist said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    Well well, common sense!

    Brian, I've actually had people act dumbfounded when I tell them I don't talk or text in the car - phone's always in my purse even if it rings while I'm driving.
    OMG, really!? Wow! I guess it's that common. Craziness!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    hedonist said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    Well well, common sense!

    Brian, I've actually had people act dumbfounded when I tell them I don't talk or text in the car - phone's always in my purse even if it rings while I'm driving.
    Ur new ride has bluetooth right? Its so helpful?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    You understand that this was an effort to poke holes in the gun reform argument?

    He's comparing automobiles designed for transportation to guns designed to kill.
    Given GTV's post history, I think this is correct.
    It's a pretty shabby attempt too, IMO
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    rr165892 said:

    hedonist said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    goingtoverona said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/head-collision-truck-bus-kills-31-morocco-094332558.html

    this is unacceptable, such an unnecessary avoidable tragedy. we really gotta do whatever it takes to do something about this, if it saves even one life it's worth it. we have to change the attitude that dead people, dead animals, pollution, and dependence on oil are all tolerable so that we can save a few minutes in time and not have our armpits sweat!!!

    That seems like quite a leap of logic, no? It was a traffic accident. They happen. Could have just as easily have been between a bus and a truck full of kittens and scuba gear.
    The article suggests that the road conditions and traffic habits (laws?) are seriously lacking though. Which to me equals a problem of a society not keeping up with progress. If you're going to allow large vehicles and license people to drive them, then you have to make sure the infrastructure to make them safe is there too.
    Well well, common sense!

    Brian, I've actually had people act dumbfounded when I tell them I don't talk or text in the car - phone's always in my purse even if it rings while I'm driving.
    Ur new ride has bluetooth right? Its so helpful?
    It does, but I chose not to activate it. Yesterday my mom asked "what if there's an emergency?" Oh mom.

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Activate it! Hands free is so much easier.plus you can rock your ITunes in the car.Nothing soothes LA traffic like a little Beatles,eh?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Discovered I can just plug in the Ipod and good to go with music.

    I'm just not a bells & whistles kind of person.

    And now that you mentioned my beloved band, gonna get some of their music going here.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Heard Good Day Sunshine on the radio in a grocery store today... Great overlooked fav of mine and appropriate for a nice spring day.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?

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