“It's a big bad scary world out there!” Are you sure North America?

callen

mcgruff10 said:

brianlux said:

Last-12-Exit said:

brianlux said:

callen said:

We have humans beating each other to a pulp in US. And the viewers are whooping and hollering. Git him. Kick him in the..... Yeah he's bleeding good.

We're a violence oriented country Callen. Maybe we will learn someday. Look at Germany. My German friends think were freaking nuts over violence. And they once had Hitler.

We are a violence oriented species brian. I wouldn't just put it on americans.

I agree. The only difference- and maybe others here know more about other countries than I do- but it seems to me we are more prone incorporating our violence in our everyday lives- the kinds of sports, TV, video games, movies and that kind of thing. I know these exist elsewhere but they are SO prolific here. And even if that is true elsewhere, we sure could set a better example. But do we even want to?

Other countries have violent movies, games, tv, sports (hello futbol?!). you have to take into consideration that the entire world is pretty much always looking into what america is doing. we are the world's super power, leading democracy and (i don't know for sure) have to be one of if not #1 country who gives aid throughout the world.
There are plenty of other countries that are a hell of a lot more violent than ours (syria, iraq, ukraine, nigeria to name a few).
agreed we should set a better example but it's hard when people concentrate on the few idiots that ruin for everyone.

I've lived in Europe. Nothing like US.

mcgruff10

callen said:

mcgruff10 said:

brianlux said:

Last-12-Exit said:

brianlux said:

callen said:

We have humans beating each other to a pulp in US. And the viewers are whooping and hollering. Git him. Kick him in the..... Yeah he's bleeding good.

We're a violence oriented country Callen. Maybe we will learn someday. Look at Germany. My German friends think were freaking nuts over violence. And they once had Hitler.

We are a violence oriented species brian. I wouldn't just put it on americans.

I agree. The only difference- and maybe others here know more about other countries than I do- but it seems to me we are more prone incorporating our violence in our everyday lives- the kinds of sports, TV, video games, movies and that kind of thing. I know these exist elsewhere but they are SO prolific here. And even if that is true elsewhere, we sure could set a better example. But do we even want to?

Other countries have violent movies, games, tv, sports (hello futbol?!). you have to take into consideration that the entire world is pretty much always looking into what america is doing. we are the world's super power, leading democracy and (i don't know for sure) have to be one of if not #1 country who gives aid throughout the world.
There are plenty of other countries that are a hell of a lot more violent than ours (syria, iraq, ukraine, nigeria to name a few).
agreed we should set a better example but it's hard when people concentrate on the few idiots that ruin for everyone.

I've lived in Europe. Nothing like US.

Well yeah, it s Europe lol

benjs

mcgruff10 said:

brianlux said:

mcgruff10 said:

brianlux said:

Last-12-Exit said:

brianlux said:

callen said:

We have humans beating each other to a pulp in US. And the viewers are whooping and hollering. Git him. Kick him in the..... Yeah he's bleeding good.

We're a violence oriented country Callen. Maybe we will learn someday. Look at Germany. My German friends think were freaking nuts over violence. And they once had Hitler.

We are a violence oriented species brian. I wouldn't just put it on americans.

I agree. The only difference- and maybe others here know more about other countries than I do- but it seems to me we are more prone incorporating our violence in our everyday lives- the kinds of sports, TV, video games, movies and that kind of thing. I know these exist elsewhere but they are SO prolific here. And even if that is true elsewhere, we sure could set a better example. But do we even want to?

Other countries have violent movies, games, tv, sports (hello futbol?!). you have to take into consideration that the entire world is pretty much always looking into what america is doing. we are the world's super power, leading democracy and (i don't know for sure) have to be one of if not #1 country who gives aid throughout the world.
There are plenty of other countries that are a hell of a lot more violent than ours (syria, iraq, ukraine, nigeria to name a few).
agreed we should set a better example but it's hard when people concentrate on the few idiots that ruin for everyone.

Exactly... but I wish it were just a few who thrive on violence. Maybe not even half, but WAY too many.

way too many is an understatement. i do agree that these damn video games are having one hell of a negative effect on people. man this thread has gone in a few directions!

A business coach of my dad's once said that the most interesting and most important conversations are typically the ones that are tangential to the focus points. Might as well embrace them

HughFreakingDillon

Last-12-Exit said:

backseatLover12 said:

Last-12-Exit said:

brianlux said:

callen said:

We have humans beating each other to a pulp in US. And the viewers are whooping and hollering. Git him. Kick him in the..... Yeah he's bleeding good.

We're a violence oriented country Callen. Maybe we will learn someday. Look at Germany. My German friends think were freaking nuts over violence. And they once had Hitler.

We are a violence oriented species brian. I wouldn't just put it on americans.

Didn't read the article, huh.

Yes. Would you like a report?

eddiec

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

PJ_Soul

I can't speak for the US, but I don't really find Canada to be a fearful place for the most part. The one thing I can think of where I'd agree is when it comes to letting kids have some freedom like we used to. People do seem way way too freaked out about the safety of kids these days, and it's stupid. But i think that has gotten worse in most developed countries, not just here.

mcgruff10

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

Aafke

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

And why should we change if other countries suffer the same issues? I thought the US was all about giving a good example? But maybe I´m mistaken...

eddiec

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

Those places don't have gun problems. They have war problems. In central/south America you have a lot of gang activity but you are much more likely to be kidnapped than see a gun.

benjs

PJ_Soul said:

I can't speak for the US, but I don't really find Canada to be a fearful place for the most part. The one thing I can think of where I'd agree is when it comes to letting kids have some freedom like we used to. People do seem way way too freaked out about the safety of kids these days, and it's stupid. But i think that has gotten worse in most developed countries, not just here.

The sad thing is that I'm not sure we're actually worse people than we were back when my parents were children. The only difference is that, by the time they became parents, they also became inundated with the horrors of the world. The news showed it, people were more vocal about it, limiting freedoms to limit risk became acceptable. The internet made the ability to fear-monger that much worse. My parents now talk about when they were children in ways like, "can you believe our parents used to let us do that?"

When I ask them what's changed, the answer is usually the same: "we just weren't as fearful back then". It's the emotion that's changed. Not the reality.

callen

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

Yep and the good. Ole USA. Same with capital punishment. God bless.

callen

Aafke said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

And why should we change if other countries suffer the same issues? I thought the US was all about giving a good example? But maybe I´m mistaken...

Remember large percentage don't want guns.

i_lov_it

eddiec said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

Those places don't have gun problems. They have war problems. In central/south America you have a lot of gang activity but you are much more likely to be kidnapped than see a gun.

Kidnapped at Gunpoint...just guessing though.

i_lov_it

callen said:

Aafke said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

And why should we change if other countries suffer the same issues? I thought the US was all about giving a good example? But maybe I´m mistaken...

Remember large percentage don't want guns.

Well unfortunately atm not large enough.

mcgruff10

eddiec said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

Those places don't have gun problems. They have war problems. In central/south America you have a lot of gang activity but you are much more likely to be kidnapped than see a gun.

yeah not too many kidnaps for ransom here in the us. i think i'd much rather live here than in very shaky countries around the world.
and you don't really see guns here in the us. yeah they are in stores and on tv but if you're not into guns when do you run into them or see them? I guess open carry states but honestly if you live in an open carry state you are probably used to it.

benjs

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

Those places don't have gun problems. They have war problems. In central/south America you have a lot of gang activity but you are much more likely to be kidnapped than see a gun.

yeah not too many kidnaps for ransom here in the us. i think i'd much rather live here than in very shaky countries around the world.
and you don't really see guns here in the us. yeah they are in stores and on tv but if you're not into guns when do you run into them or see them? I guess open carry states but honestly if you live in an open carry state you are probably used to it.

If we're to say that guns are a problem, it worries me that the inundation of gun culture could actually leave a person or group (i.e. residents of open carry states) blind to their prevalence. I'd think that being blind to a potentially problematic way of living would just breed complacency and non-concern at best (or adamant opposition at worst) when any sort of reform on the problem comes up.

Politicians lie, and I know so many people who say that they don't vote because the concept of lying politicians is so rampant. This is because we've ignored the potentially problematic nature of something, accepting instead that it's "just the way it is". And an inferior status quo remains.

i_lov_it

Aafke said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Except for the gun issue most of the problems he listed go on in most countries.

I think there's gun issues in a lot of countries around the world. look at the majority of africa, central/south america and the middle east.

And why should we change if other countries suffer the same issues? I thought the US was all about giving a good example? But maybe I´m mistaken...

It depends what your talking about though...surely it can't be guns.

HughFreakingDillon

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

I can't speak for the US, but I don't really find Canada to be a fearful place for the most part. The one thing I can think of where I'd agree is when it comes to letting kids have some freedom like we used to. People do seem way way too freaked out about the safety of kids these days, and it's stupid. But i think that has gotten worse in most developed countries, not just here.

The sad thing is that I'm not sure we're actually worse people than we were back when my parents were children. The only difference is that, by the time they became parents, they also became inundated with the horrors of the world. The news showed it, people were more vocal about it, limiting freedoms to limit risk became acceptable. The internet made the ability to fear-monger that much worse. My parents now talk about when they were children in ways like, "can you believe our parents used to let us do that?"

When I ask them what's changed, the answer is usually the same: "we just weren't as fearful back then". It's the emotion that's changed. Not the reality.

my sentiments exactly.