Stay Tuned... (Tour?) Announcement Friday, March 13th, 2015

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  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    If you would be offended by the terms "black people," "brown people" or "yellow people" then you should be equally offended by "white people."

    I get offended that it's ok to make racist comments against whites, but if it was any other race, it would be a major issue.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    YLed2 said:

    Racism?

    Americans being self-centered and not caring about the rest of the world?

    Oh boy, the wonders of a PJ tour announcement!

    Well, the racism isn't in criticizing Americans. It's the part about attributing American behaviour to white people, lol.
    (I like Americans AND white people except when I don't =) )
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    CopperTom said:

    If you would be offended by the terms "black people," "brown people" or "yellow people" then you should be equally offended by "white people."

    I get offended that it's ok to make racist comments against whites, but if it was any other race, it would be a major issue.

    I just think we need to learn to differentiate true hate speech and harmless comments meant as a joke. I would be interested in someone actually being offended by the comment longer than 10 seconds.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667

    CopperTom said:

    If you would be offended by the terms "black people," "brown people" or "yellow people" then you should be equally offended by "white people."

    I get offended that it's ok to make racist comments against whites, but if it was any other race, it would be a major issue.

    I just think we need to learn to differentiate true hate speech and harmless comments meant as a joke. I would be interested in someone actually being offended by the comment longer than 10 seconds.
    To be fair, even if someone had said "black" instead of "white" in the original sentence while making the same joke there probably would have been a shit storm.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    PJ_Soul said:

    CopperTom said:

    If you would be offended by the terms "black people," "brown people" or "yellow people" then you should be equally offended by "white people."

    I get offended that it's ok to make racist comments against whites, but if it was any other race, it would be a major issue.

    I just think we need to learn to differentiate true hate speech and harmless comments meant as a joke. I would be interested in someone actually being offended by the comment longer than 10 seconds.
    To be fair, even if someone had said "black" instead of "white" in the original sentence while making the same joke there probably would have been a shit storm.
    Sure, but a shit storm that was deserved or one created because people have been trained to get mad any time a comment might be remotely offensive? You used the term black people in your message and it wasn't remotely offensive, so that is proof the terms can be used, and then the context should determine whether it is offensive or not. People joke all the time that white people can't dance or white men can't jump. I don't think anyone is crying over it.

    All I'm saying is the guy made a joke and wasn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings and it is highly unlikely that anyone was harmed by it. Let's save the outrage for comments that are truly hurtful and hateful.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667

    PJ_Soul said:

    CopperTom said:

    If you would be offended by the terms "black people," "brown people" or "yellow people" then you should be equally offended by "white people."

    I get offended that it's ok to make racist comments against whites, but if it was any other race, it would be a major issue.

    I just think we need to learn to differentiate true hate speech and harmless comments meant as a joke. I would be interested in someone actually being offended by the comment longer than 10 seconds.
    To be fair, even if someone had said "black" instead of "white" in the original sentence while making the same joke there probably would have been a shit storm.
    Sure, but a shit storm that was deserved or one created because people have been trained to get mad any time a comment might be remotely offensive? You used the term black people in your message and it wasn't remotely offensive, so that is proof the terms can be used, and then the context should determine whether it is offensive or not. People joke all the time that white people can't dance or white men can't jump. I don't think anyone is crying over it.

    All I'm saying is the guy made a joke and wasn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings and it is highly unlikely that anyone was harmed by it. Let's save the outrage for comments that are truly hurtful and hateful.
    I agree. Context is everything. If one wants to avoid what's occurred in this thread they may want to avoid such comments, lol (i would), but that doesn't mean unfounded outrage is cool.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • giventofly69
    giventofly69 Vancouver Posts: 850
    Wow, this thread has totally derailed.
    Me, I'm a little bummed ... I was hoping and wishing for Canada 2015. Congrats to all you lucky ones that will make it to a show ... I'll try to catch at least one set list relay, so I will 'see' you there.
    "Your light's reflected now, reflected from afar. We were but stones, your light made us stars."
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,956
    Hoping for a Montreal show to be added this yer.
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  • Blredyellow
    Blredyellow Posts: 843
    WTF happened to this thread? Man. The internet sucks sometimes.
  • sparky_fry
    sparky_fry Posts: 760
    Oh people and their feelings. Let's talk pearl Jam. There's plenty of time to announce a small tour before SA
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    You are all nuts
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256

    You are all nuts

    Ha, I won't argue with that.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256

    You are all nuts

    Careful, Jose! You might offend the peanut gallery. :get_outta_here:
    Nice!
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    edited March 2015
    lol lol
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    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,962
    happy for all the latinos fans and for everyone else who can go..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    edited March 2015
    For the PC patrol, lol , j/k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqETyU9k0lM

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Has anyone seen a seating chart yet for Chile?
  • Has anyone seen a seating chart yet for Chile?

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