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Brotherjohnno9Brotherjohnno9 Posts: 463
edited February 2015 in The Porch
For those of you who were at PJ20 and received this single:

http://www.pjcollectors.com/detail_related.asp?id=1402

Can you tell me if Other Side is the standard PJ version or does it include a vocal by Joseph Arthur? Is it even the same song? Basically i'm trying to establish if Joe was involved in the B side. Thanks in advance.
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    JB23237JB23237 Posts: 1,373
    Not sure there was a b side I'll check
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    Brotherjohnno9Brotherjohnno9 Posts: 463
    According to the info in the link there are 2 tracks on the CD, When The Fire Comes which JA does perform on and Other Side but the label seems to make no mention of the latter in the image.
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    I remember listening to it but it has been a while.
    It was a demo version of Other Side.
    I thought it was Jeff signing.
    but I am not sure now.

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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    No, it isn't.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    There was some mention of project when Joseph Arthur was on stage - he had Matt, Mike and Jeff up there to play live with him on one of the side stages for a few songs. That project turned into RNDM without Matt and Mike of course.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    When The Fire Comes had JA, JA, Matt and Mike on it if I recall - and I remember getting that single thinking they were doing a full album. Thought maybe there was mention of it on the single too, but I do distinctly remember Joe saying he and the guys were recording something. Anyway. The songs they all did together on stage were badass.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    I got that single at PJ20. It is the same song but not the standard PJ version. There are two vocalists on the track but I'm pretty sure it's Jeff singing both parts.
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,869
    it was terrible whomever was singing it
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    whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    i can't remember a single thing from the whole weekend... FUCK day drinking.
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    AndySlashAndySlash Posts: 3,208
    as others have said, it is a unique version to the cd, with jeff singing. it sounds a bit more polished to me than being simply a demo, but at the same time it's pretty basic. i would be very surprised if anyone else other than jeff was playing on it.
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,077
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    When The Fire Comes had JA, JA, Matt and Mike on it if I recall - and I remember getting that single thinking they were doing a full album. Thought maybe there was mention of it on the single too, but I do distinctly remember Joe saying he and the guys were recording something. Anyway. The songs they all did together on stage were badass.

    This is accurate. I remember it the same way. Joseph Arthur's live sets were really bad ass with jeff, Matt and Mike. They killed the few songs they did. I actually recall liking the songs even better than what turned into the RNDM album (which I do enjoy).
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    Never even listened to it.....
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    whofeelslikeadrank said:

    i can't remember a single thing from the whole weekend... FUCK day drinking.

    Rut roh! Hahaha! Man, I remember thinking there was no fucking way I was going to not remember that weekend. I think I had one beer the entire weekend.
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    whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    whofeelslikeadrank said:

    i can't remember a single thing from the whole weekend... FUCK day drinking.

    Rut roh! Hahaha! Man, I remember thinking there was no fucking way I was going to not remember that weekend. I think I had one beer the entire weekend.
    nah, not really. i mean, yea there's been those days, but not that weekend. i did spend a long time in the parking lot, but i had clear vision both days. an amazing weekend that i'll never forget.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    I recall hearing about someone who basically passed out from tailgating on that first day and stayed in the parking lot the whole day. Terrible, just terrible!
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    Brotherjohnno9Brotherjohnno9 Posts: 463
    Thanks for the responses. Before this descends into a thread about drinking ;-) I'll take it that Joseph Arthur is categorically not on this version of Other Side??
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    raindog80raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,141
    Brotherjohnno9 said:

    For those of you who were at PJ20 and received this single:

    http://www.pjcollectors.com/detail_related.asp?id=1402

    Can you tell me if Other Side is the standard PJ version or does it include a vocal by Joseph Arthur? Is it even the same song? Basically i'm trying to establish if Joe was involved in the B side. Thanks in advance.

    Joseph Arthur sing this version of Other Side and was recorded with Jeff Ament on bass, Richard Stuverud on drums and Arthur on guitar.

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    annabellaqueenannabellaqueen Posts: 89
    It's not a PJ version. No Ed. Definitely multiple tracks for vocals. At first listen I thought they double-tracked Jeff's vocals. Now I'm thinking maybe that's Joseph as one of the vocals. ... In short, I'm of no help on this. Sorry.
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    madtowndavemadtowndave Minneapolis, MN Posts: 4,012
    Now I'm trying to find this in my collection, and it seems to have disappeared...
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    Brotherjohnno9Brotherjohnno9 Posts: 463
    OK so no one can say for certain? If anyone who has it would be willing to send me an MP3 i'd be really grateful if that's not breaking the rules? If it is please disregard.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    I don't hear Joe singing on this. It sounds like Jeff based on all the solo stuff I've got of his.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    http://www.amazon.com/When-the-Fire-Comes/dp/B00889RB1Q

    This sounds just like Joe on this recording, and sounds just like the single they gave away at PJ20.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mDVE4ZWeI
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC1yoJE7XWE

    and just because this is awesome - wish they would have worked up a record together.
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    AndySlashAndySlash Posts: 3,208
    other side mp3 below.

    copy and paste the link in a new window; if you click on the link it will just open this page.
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/lfbmf2
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC1yoJE7XWE

    and just because this is awesome - wish they would have worked up a record together.

    thanks for posting this.
    really brought back memories of that weekend.

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    Brotherjohnno9Brotherjohnno9 Posts: 463
    AndySlash said:

    other side mp3 below.

    copy and paste the link in a new window; if you click on the link it will just open this page.
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/lfbmf2

    Thanks so much Andy. Just played that and it's obviously not Joe on the main vocal but he could be in the background. Still nothing conclusive so i'm going to have a Joe expert take a listen. Thanks again.
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    Brotherjohnno9Brotherjohnno9 Posts: 463
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    http://www.amazon.com/When-the-Fire-Comes/dp/B00889RB1Q

    This sounds just like Joe on this recording, and sounds just like the single they gave away at PJ20.

    Yes that is Joe but that's not the song i was unsure of. Thanks anyway.
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    AndySlashAndySlash Posts: 3,208
    Brotherjohnno9 said:

    d that and it's obviously not Joe on the main vocal but he could be in the background. Still nothing conclusive so i'm going to have a Joe expert take a listen. Thanks again.

    no problem. yeah, we really have NO info on this. who knows when it was recorded, even. but i would still guess it is all jeff and maybe richard stuverud or matt on drums. i can't imagine joseph arthur being on this, i don't hear his voice at all, even in the double tracked sections.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,146
    To the OP, why do you need to establish if its Joe on the recording? Just curious.
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