Target leaves Canada after less than 2 years-17,000 jobs to be lost
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Target, Walmart? You mean people actually buy shit from these places?oftenreading wrote: »
Granted these places sell shit. Can you both say that neither of you has made a purchase at either store?0 -
PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »Target, Walmart? You mean people actually buy shit from these places?oftenreading wrote: »
Granted these places sell shit. Can you both say that neither of you has made a purchase at either store?my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »Target, Walmart? You mean people actually buy shit from these places?oftenreading wrote: »
Granted these places sell shit. Can you both say that neither of you has made a purchase at either store?
No, I cannot, PJfan.
Here's my story on that: The closest Target to my home is about 25 minutes from here so that's easy- I don't need to drive 25 miles for any kind of trashy product. I have made a few small plumbing and electrical purchases from the local Walmart which is about 4 miles from my home but I did not make my those purchases until first calling every other retailer I could think of that was within about 8 miles from home. Purchasing those few items from Walmart was a more responsible choice that eating up the gas it would have taken to drive to another city or have some big UPS truck deliver a small item here. And why did only Walmart have those items close to my home? Because Walmart moved in and closed down two very fine independent stores that had been run by local folks here for decades. I how did I feel about making those purchases at Walmart? Terrible. Those few times I've walked into that store I felt a moderate degree of shame, disgust and anger. Are those feelings a bit over the top? I wonder how those nice folks feel whose stores were shut down?
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I'd like to add two things here. Firstly, that I always sympathize with people losing their job. I'm never happy when I hear of people put out of work.
Secondly, I do also have a guitar that was originally purchase at Walmart. In fact, I'm told, it was solely distributed in limited numbers at Walmart. The guitar is a First Act Paul Westerberg model that I bid on and won on eBay. I passed on buying one of these when they first came out and was unhappy that Westerberg may have allowed Walmart only distribution. I'm not sure if buying mine on eBay makes me a hypocrite. I will confess, however, to still being a major P.W. fan!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
It looks like London Drugs may be snapping up some prime Target real estate soon, as well as employing some of the displaced workers.
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/target-pullout-sparks-look-by-b-c-based-london-drugs-1.1732895my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I'd like to add two things here. Firstly, that I always sympathize with people losing their job. I'm never happy when I hear of people put out of work.
Secondly, I do also have a guitar that was originally purchase at Walmart. In fact, I'm told, it was solely distributed in limited numbers at Walmart. The guitar is a First Act Paul Westerberg model that I bid on and won on eBay. I passed on buying one of these when they first came out and was unhappy that Westerberg may have allowed Walmart only distribution. I'm not sure if buying mine on eBay makes me a hypocrite. I will confess, however, to still being a major P.W. fan!
I am totally with you on the independent store thing. There is just something so different in that experience; it's almost organic. Something on the other side of the coin that i just thought of; is it better to have a few independent stores that have 3-5 employees, or a big store that pays the wages of 100+ people, with even the possibility of a benefits plan to boot?
I love going into my local record store and chatting up the owner for a while, instead of waiting in line at hmv with all the other capitalist pigs. But they also drive the economy a lot more. For better or worse, mind you.
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It's our own choice to purchase from certain places, and I'm not sure justification is warranted. Also, I can't say that a business charging X amount with people willing to pay X equals piggishness. Capitalism, sure (not that there's anything wrong with that!), and I get it.
We all feed it, and in the process feed each other.
I think I've been in a Target store twice in my life. The last time was several years ago when we were going through really tough times. My mom took me there and as she treated me to make-up and toiletries and other shit considered luxuries at the time, we talked too as we strolled down the aisles. Afterward too.
It was sweet time spent together, and even if the financial cost was minimal, the experience there is firmly in my memory.
Got a similar story about Costco too!0 -
I wonder if Target pays The Who royalties?"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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It's our own choice to purchase from certain places, and I'm not sure justification is warranted. Also, I can't say that a business charging X amount with people willing to pay X equals piggishness. Capitalism, sure (not that there's anything wrong with that!), and I get it.
We all feed it, and in the process feed each other.
I think I've been in a Target store twice in my life. The last time was several years ago when we were going through really tough times. My mom took me there and as she treated me to make-up and toiletries and other shit considered luxuries at the time, we talked too as we strolled down the aisles. Afterward too.
It was sweet time spent together, and even if the financial cost was minimal, the experience there is firmly in my memory.
Got a similar story about Costco too!
I just love that expression, "capitalist pig". Reminds me if all the movies from the 80's with soviets in them. Not justifying anything, I'm just wondering if anyone has any insight into if there are any pros to big box stores vs smaller independent stores. As I said, I much prefer going to indie stores, but does anyone know any stats on small vs big with regards to employment rates, poverty, etc?
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paulonious wrote: »It's our own choice to purchase from certain places, and I'm not sure justification is warranted. Also, I can't say that a business charging X amount with people willing to pay X equals piggishness. Capitalism, sure (not that there's anything wrong with that!), and I get it.
We all feed it, and in the process feed each other.
I think I've been in a Target store twice in my life. The last time was several years ago when we were going through really tough times. My mom took me there and as she treated me to make-up and toiletries and other shit considered luxuries at the time, we talked too as we strolled down the aisles. Afterward too.
It was sweet time spent together, and even if the financial cost was minimal, the experience there is firmly in my memory.
Got a similar story about Costco too!
I just love that expression, "capitalist pig". Reminds me if all the movies from the 80's with soviets in them. Not justifying anything, I'm just wondering if anyone has any insight into if there are any pros to big box stores vs smaller independent stores. As I said, I much prefer going to indie stores, but does anyone know any stats on small vs big with regards to employment rates, poverty, etc?
As to your question, I'm not sure. I wonder if it has to do with location/community, along with the products sold...also, I'd think, how the business is run. Koontz Hardware (a fixture in West Hollywood since the late 30s) has been my go-to over places like Lowe's or Sherwin Williams. Loyal customers translate into stability for the business, for its employees, hopefully for the pay and benefits as well.
Amoeba Records is another business that comes to mind, to still be around after large companies such as Tower and Virgin have gone to the wayside.
Also, convenience and price have to be a factor.
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Its a good question, Paulo... I know most big box stores don't offer benefits to most employees but the ones that do probably have a "better" economic impact than small indies, which also rarely offer benefits. What I like about indie stores is that the money cycle is so much more local. It stays in the community and those who do well in small communities are known for investing locally and giving back in a financial AND human way. Big box stores are giving mega-bonuses to ridiculously rich folks who are known to invest internationally and in junk financing like derivatives and mortgage backed securities.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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paulonious wrote: »It's our own choice to purchase from certain places, and I'm not sure justification is warranted. Also, I can't say that a business charging X amount with people willing to pay X equals piggishness. Capitalism, sure (not that there's anything wrong with that!), and I get it.
We all feed it, and in the process feed each other.
I think I've been in a Target store twice in my life. The last time was several years ago when we were going through really tough times. My mom took me there and as she treated me to make-up and toiletries and other shit considered luxuries at the time, we talked too as we strolled down the aisles. Afterward too.
It was sweet time spent together, and even if the financial cost was minimal, the experience there is firmly in my memory.
Got a similar story about Costco too!
I just love that expression, "capitalist pig". Reminds me if all the movies from the 80's with soviets in them. Not justifying anything, I'm just wondering if anyone has any insight into if there are any pros to big box stores vs smaller independent stores. As I said, I much prefer going to indie stores, but does anyone know any stats on small vs big with regards to employment rates, poverty, etc?
As to your question, I'm not sure. I wonder if it has to do with location/community, along with the products sold...also, I'd think, how the business is run. Koontz Hardware (a fixture in West Hollywood since the late 30s) has been my go-to over places like Lowe's or Sherwin Williams. Loyal customers translate into stability for the business, for its employees, hopefully for the pay and benefits as well.
Amoeba Records is another business that comes to mind, to still be around after large companies such as Tower and Virgin have gone to the wayside.
Also, convenience and price have to be a factor.
that's one thing that gets me. I hate shopping at chains, even though their prices are almost always cheaper. My indie record store guy will order a cd for me, and his price will be $17.99, while HMV will be $12.99. And his store is so much farther than going to the chain. I literally drive 20 minutes to get to his store, wait 2-3 weeks for my order (as he can't afford to order blanket stock b/c of the risk of no one buying it), if it comes in at all, and his hours suck. But I feel like I need to help out the indie store. He's been thriving for 10 years.
But jesus is it inconvenient for the consumer.
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Nice parachute package for the CEO. I wonder if pilot's wives get money if they drop a 747 on the turf?
It didn't work? Shocking!
How many big box stores does the world need?
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
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even flow - question mark wrote: »Nice parachute package for the CEO. I wonder if pilot's wives get money if they drop a 747 on the turf?
It didn't work? Shocking!
How many big box stores does the world need?
unbelievable.
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I ate at a delicious local deli today...pricey but all homemade and done with love. I'd rather give them a thousand dollars than Wendy's 10$... And I like Wendy's lolMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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mmmmm.......baconator........lglglglglglglglglglglglg...........By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Hahaha no thanks on the baconator, i like some veggies on my burger! And they use the cheap bacon for that instead of the "applewood smoked" stuff. Now I am craving big fat fatty food.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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Hahaha no thanks on the baconator, i like some veggies on my burger! And they use the cheap bacon for that instead of the "applewood smoked" stuff. Now I am craving big fat fatty food.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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Hahaha no thanks on the baconator, i like some veggies on my burger! And they use the cheap bacon for that instead of the "applewood smoked" stuff. Now I am craving big fat fatty food.
Yeah, i have moved away from bacon on burgers from fast food joints. It just crumbles and has no taste. What i imagine that microwavable bacon would taste like.
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