The slaughter of 2.000 by Boko Haram, the same day as the attack on Charlie Hebdo.

bbc.com/news/world-africa-30728158

A massive terrorist attack by Boko Haram in the city of Baga in northeastern Nigeria. 1500-2000 people killed, may be more but on the European news of 13.00 PM there was only information about Paris. The conclusion that can be drawn from this is simple. When you are poor, you are not worth much if you are poor and black then you're worth nothing. And this is not the first time that The news and all other media ignore major accidents and slaughters in Africa. The cause of the attack in Paris is the instability of too many countries. Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Ukraine and all the Sahara countries. An instability that we, the West have largely allowed and sometimes even caused in our endless greed. The result will be more terror attacks. It is impossible to verify. If the cracks get bigger, there will be more and more and bigger fish swim through. The only way to reverse this is a structural reform of capitalism. When we begin today terrorism will expand still for another 8 years, then it will stabilize for five years and then the decrease begins because the soil and reason disappears. I do not see this happening. I expect exactly the opposite, people will feel threatened and are simply not able to oversee the entire situation and are only able to think short-term. The result will be more support for right wing people. When those people get more influence then they already have the soil and reason will be bigger, the result will be more terror attacks. And more terror means more right wing people etc. etc. The end will be, cameras everywhere, the army and police everywhere and still no safety.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Shits fucken wild. Sad sad world we live in. Seems to be the norm. Death death and more death.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited January 2015
    It's Marketing.

    All marketing and selling Ford trucks or fucking swiffers.

    Marketers such as CNN FOX MSNBC ALL JAZEERA, know to target human fears. So in US, CNN knows white purchasers are less apt to be in Africa then France and can relate to western French as themselves more than Africans so the French story gets the headlines.

    Our news driven by number HITS which can then be be marketed to increasing sales for Fucking Swiffers.

    So let's not be surprised at what gets covered by whom.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • AafkeAafke Posts: 1,219
    Surprised? No, I'm not... Sad about the state of the world. Yes, I am.
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    "Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Terrible news, but our tribe, as a whole, won't care. This is happening in a developing country halfway around the world to people with darker skin. We don't relate. It's a hard terrible truth.

    Also it's not costing us money.
  • AafkeAafke Posts: 1,219
    Yep the value of money is much to big in this world, it distracts us , from other values, which in my opinion are much more important...
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    "The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
    "Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    dignin wrote: »
    Terrible news, but our tribe, as a whole, won't care. This is happening in a developing country halfway around the world to people with darker skin. We don't relate. It's a hard terrible truth.

    Also it's not costing us money.

    I think more people would care if they knew about this. The fact that this kind of news is ignored by or buried by media says something more to me than whether or no we care. And if by "our tribe" you mean those of us on the PJ forum, I would say even more likely that yes, we care-- but I don't think that's what you meant by "tribe", right?.

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  • brianlux wrote: »
    dignin wrote: »
    Terrible news, but our tribe, as a whole, won't care. This is happening in a developing country halfway around the world to people with darker skin. We don't relate. It's a hard terrible truth.

    Also it's not costing us money.

    I think more people would care if they knew about this. The fact that this kind of news is ignored by or buried by media says something more to me than whether or no we care. And if by "our tribe" you mean those of us on the PJ forum, I would say even more likely that yes, we care-- but I don't think that's what you meant by "tribe", right?.

    Callen's comment is accurate- very often the media is driven by consumerism.

    And your comment here is accurate as well. Of course people care, but with little awareness... how can they care? One might say it is every individual's responsibility to be informed (seek the real news versus the news we are spoon fed), but we all know this is simply not reality for a number of reasons.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    brianlux wrote: »
    dignin wrote: »
    Terrible news, but our tribe, as a whole, won't care. This is happening in a developing country halfway around the world to people with darker skin. We don't relate. It's a hard terrible truth.

    Also it's not costing us money.

    I think more people would care if they knew about this. The fact that this kind of news is ignored by or buried by media says something more to me than whether or no we care. And if by "our tribe" you mean those of us on the PJ forum, I would say even more likely that yes, we care-- but I don't think that's what you meant by "tribe", right?.

    By tribe I meant the west.....and white people. I really don't think the majority give a shit about anything past their family, home neighbourhood, next paycheck......Kim Kardashian.....world events don't generally come on their radar. Most people don't even vote in municipal elections so why would they give a shit about something happening halfway around the world that doesn't effect them.

    The media doesn't cover this stuff because it doesn't sell. It sucks, but that's the way I see it.

    Here on the AMT we live in a bubble....the few that are actually interested.

    Sorry for being such a wet blanket.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    dignin wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    dignin wrote: »
    Terrible news, but our tribe, as a whole, won't care. This is happening in a developing country halfway around the world to people with darker skin. We don't relate. It's a hard terrible truth.

    Also it's not costing us money.

    I think more people would care if they knew about this. The fact that this kind of news is ignored by or buried by media says something more to me than whether or no we care. And if by "our tribe" you mean those of us on the PJ forum, I would say even more likely that yes, we care-- but I don't think that's what you meant by "tribe", right?.

    By tribe I meant the west.....and white people. I really don't think the majority give a shit about anything past their family, home neighbourhood, next paycheck......Kim Kardashian.....world events don't generally come on their radar. Most people don't even vote in municipal elections so why would they give a shit about something happening halfway around the world that doesn't effect them.

    The media doesn't cover this stuff because it doesn't sell. It sucks, but that's the way I see it.

    Here on the AMT we live in a bubble....the few that are actually interested.

    Sorry for being such a wet blanket.

    AMT is great in that most of us who come here really do care. This forum is especially useful and excellent in that most of us do "seek the real news versus the news we are spoon fed" (as Thirty very well put it) and so the forum becomes a great place to share and learn what we can as far as more accurate news. Of course, little of what we read is balanced and unbiased, but at least here we are getting more than the insubstantial crap that is served up on the 6 O'clock TV "news".

    And dignin, look man, it's hard not to be a wet blanket sometimes. That's the price we pay for awareness and open ears and eyes. It's really really really hard not to be pessimistic or curmudgeonly or cynical at times. I think we all have to shoulder some of that now and then.

    And a little off topic here but the only time AMT becomes a real drag for me- and this has been the case again lately- is when we berate each other because we think we are the shit and know it all. I think sometimes I come across like a know it all but I don't mean to. I'm just trying to learn and if I throw something out that is misinformed, I'll try to examine my biases and make sure my source of information is correct. Of course the other thing is when people troll- but that goes without saying and trolls always fall off the radar sooner or later.

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2015
    brianlux wrote: »
    [/quote]

    And a little off topic here but the only time AMT becomes a real drag for me- and this has been the case again lately- is when we berate each other because we think we are the shit and know it all. and trolls always fall off the radar sooner or later.

    [/quote]

    OP - I don't want to start a new thread in your thread. I just want to address brians quote for a second


    Brian - yes, there are trolls everywhere that cant be avoided in this day and age.

    Berating happens sometimes because it is easy to get wound up and finally wanting to say something strong right/or wrong to others.
    It seems that more often than not on every thread in AMT there is always some "proclaimed expert with a vast expanse of information because they have lived it". It can be very annoying because that person will never budge or see other views. Even with something benign.

    I could start a thread that says "Oil Refinery Producing 6000 Barrels a day hurts local village"

    There would immediately be a response somewhere along the lines of

    "I was waiting for someone to notice. I live in that town and OP and you are wrong they produce 6005 barrels and my village is fine. Sort your facts out before you post OP. Aside from a few people stricken with cancer in our local village I for one will not let this mass media bullshit take over our town. I work on the assembly line and count the barrels each day that are produced. For this bullshit mainstream media to say 6000 barrels I will not stand for. This is just another control tactic of our human minds. So OP before you post more stuff like this I advise you check your facts".
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    ^^^ There would immediately be a response somewhere along the lines of...

    I think you hit on something import there, PJfan. Avoiding the quick reply is always good advice. I almost always (at the very least) use the preview button and often still find I need to hit "edit" as well. It's so easy to knee jerk, isn't it?
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Why do people insist we live in a bubble?
  • Why do people insist we live in a bubble?

    When someone says "we live in a bubble", I always wonder if that person is including themselves in that bubble?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I don't know if bubble is the proper term, but when you lead the world in obesity and your society has the balls to pretend it's fallen on hard times, somethings up.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Why do people insist we live in a bubble?

    When someone says "we live in a bubble", I always wonder if that person is including themselves in that bubble?

    I think it is pretty clear by the "we" part.

  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    The Boko Haram attacks are not the fault of the west or capitalism. A bubble truly you are in.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Gambs can't quote but like your response above.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    Yeah, "the bubble" makes sense to me. We really do live in some altered state here in the west. I've heard a lot from my sister and brother in law who have traveled to some very distant obscure places about how very different much of the world is from the west. You can very much get that same sense by reading Ryszard Kapuściński and Henry Rollins and others' overseas experiences in second and third world countries. My own physical experience that way is rather limited although I did once walk alone through a very poor neighborhood in Mexico and got a good feel for how much of the rest of the world lives. What a strange bubble we live in indeed!
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Agree and why I feel people should travel and experience other cultures.
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    brianlux wrote: »
    Yeah, "the bubble" makes sense to me. We really do live in some altered state here in the west. I've heard a lot from my sister and brother in law who have traveled to some very distant obscure places about how very different much of the world is from the west. You can very much get that same sense by reading Ryszard Kapuściński and Henry Rollins and others' overseas experiences in second and third world countries. My own physical experience that way is rather limited although I did once walk alone through a very poor neighborhood in Mexico and got a good feel for how much of the rest of the world lives. What a strange bubble we live in indeed!

    "He won the Lottery by being born " very true indeed.Smart guy that Vedder fellow
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    The article states that even the president of Nigeria has failed to comment on the attack while stating condemnation of the Paris attacks.
  • AnnafalkAnnafalk Posts: 4,004
    These monsters has murdered 10 000 people only in 2014, it's more than Ebola has caused. why can't the leaders in Africa stop this?
  • AafkeAafke Posts: 1,219
    Annafalk wrote: »
    These monsters has murdered 10 000 people only in 2014, it's more than Ebola has caused. why can't the leaders in Africa stop this?

    Because the rest of the world doesn't care...

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    "The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
    "Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee
  • AnnafalkAnnafalk Posts: 4,004
    edited January 2015
    Why can't the goverment in Nigeria use the military or something to stop these mass murder radical extreme Islamistic groups?
    Ps I see now that the article you have posted Aafke gives a lot of the answers, my mistake Ds
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Annafalk wrote: »
    Why can't the goverment in Nigeria use the military or something to stop these mass murder radical extreme Islamistic groups?
    Ps I see now that the article you have posted Aafke gives a lot of the answers, my mistake Ds

    The word "Government" is used very loosely in Nigeria. Sorta like a garbage man calling himself a sanitation engineer.
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Posts: 12,223
    edited January 2015
    Here's an enlightening article, published in today's Human Rights Watch. It asks what likely happened in the area around Baga, Nigeria. In particular, it examines satellite-detected areas of scorched earth in and surrounding Baga, in order to gauge a sense of the nature and extent of its recent destruction by Boko Haram militants. http://www.hrw.org/news/2015/01/14/dispatches-what-really-happened-baga-nigeria
    Post edited by FinsburyParkCarrots on
  • brianlux wrote: »
    Yeah, "the bubble" makes sense to me. We really do live in some altered state here in the west. I've heard a lot from my sister and brother in law who have traveled to some very distant obscure places about how very different much of the world is from the west. You can very much get that same sense by reading Ryszard Kapuściński and Henry Rollins and others' overseas experiences in second and third world countries. My own physical experience that way is rather limited although I did once walk alone through a very poor neighborhood in Mexico and got a good feel for how much of the rest of the world lives. What a strange bubble we live in indeed!

    Ok. Now I see what bubble means to you.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I remember watching Slumdog Millionaire and thinking the same
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    brianlux wrote: »
    Yeah, "the bubble" makes sense to me. We really do live in some altered state here in the west. I've heard a lot from my sister and brother in law who have traveled to some very distant obscure places about how very different much of the world is from the west. You can very much get that same sense by reading Ryszard Kapuściński and Henry Rollins and others' overseas experiences in second and third world countries. My own physical experience that way is rather limited although I did once walk alone through a very poor neighborhood in Mexico and got a good feel for how much of the rest of the world lives. What a strange bubble we live in indeed!

    Ok. Now I see what bubble means to you.

    And it could turn out to be a bubble within a bubble.

    Compared to much of the world, we in first world countries definitely live in a bubble of relative luxury.

    The second bubble could well be a bubble-in-time related to energy. According to peak oil theorists, we are living in a unique period of time utilizing a cheap, abundant source of energy: oil, and when that energy supply is depleted, unless we find another equally cheap and abundant supply of energy, we will fall back into a simpler, more agrarian way of living. Some of us here may live long enough to see that happen.

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/boko-haram-rampage-in-northeast-nigeria-kills-more-than-40-1.2934479?cmp=rss

    Maiduguri, city of two million, appears to be surrounded by militants
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