Leeds moronic "official" review...

wcswcs Posts: 17
edited August 2006 in Given To Fly (live)
Here's the review on the Leeds festival page:

http://www.meanfiddler.com/displayPage.asp?ArticleID=3362&URLID=66

"Clearly looking emotional at the band’s first UK festival performance in years, frontman Eddie Vedder also responded to accusations that the group were afraid of leaving their safe US fanbase behind and appearing at UK festivals. Although in characteristic Vedder style, there was no clear reason, as such, merely a lot of umming and arring and half-finished sentences that didn’t really explain a great deal."

What a jerk, hey?
I don't think he realised that the problem was not with festivals happening specifically in the UK... and "no clear reason" ?!
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  • daanartsdaanarts Posts: 130
    i think thats funny.. it is typical ed.. half sentencing mumbles..
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  • stonesgstringstonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    What do you expect from most modern day journalists?

    Although bless Ed, he does have a habit of doing that! :D
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  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,646
    Ed - and the rest of the band have perfect reasoning. I don't like to bring up the past, but God bless those who remember and protect those who don't realize. Lesser bands would do differently -- big ups to Pearl Jam.
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  • duggroduggro Posts: 1,343
    haha i was gonna post this

    what a dummy journalist
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  • inmyrvminmyrvm Posts: 933
    it's not like they really do festivals in the states either dipshit
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  • Carlos DCarlos D Posts: 638
    The played Australia and South America since then so whoever wrote that is clearly a dope.
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  • PaulJamPaulJam Posts: 163
    Ha, what a fuckhead. The agenda of the music press in this country right now is appaling. If it doesn't relate in some way to the arctic monkeys then it doesn't matter.

    And the arctic monkeys are f*cking appaling.
  • mrwalkerbmrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    PaulJam wrote:
    Ha, what a fuckhead. The agenda of the music press in this country right now is appaling. If it doesn't relate in some way to the arctic monkeys then it doesn't matter.

    And the arctic monkeys are f*cking appaling.


    but that's nothing new I mean the British Press are known for jerking off like mad over some band for 6 months, calling them the new beatles and all that, Oasis, Arctic Monkeys, keane
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  • duggroduggro Posts: 1,343
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    but that's nothing new I mean the British Press are known for jerking off like mad over some band for 6 months, calling them the new beatles and all that, Oasis, Arctic Monkeys, keane
    strange choice of bands there
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  • PaulJamPaulJam Posts: 163
    yeah, the pattern is nothing new. It just gets worse every time.
  • PaulJam wrote:
    Ha, what a fuckhead. The agenda of the music press in this country right now is appaling. If it doesn't relate in some way to the arctic monkeys then it doesn't matter.

    And the arctic monkeys are f*cking appaling.


    Man, the British music press are ridiculous, and I totally agree, they hype up some pretty mediocre bands.

    HOWEVER, while they certainly don't explore any new territory musically, the Arctic Monkeys are far from "appalling!"

    They're one of the newer bands that I feel actually have some strong lyrical content to their songs! For a bunch of guys who are barely 20, they've already got a pretty good insight into their own community, and I hope they apply some of that good sense to the world around them as they grow musically!

    The songs certainly aren't bad either, which doesn't hurt!

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  • i always give new bands a chance, even (especially) if nme and the like label them as jesus 2.0 but i sat through arctic monkeys tonight on bbc 3, and they are mediocre at best. They are so mediocre. They will not make it to album 3. Muse on the other hand sound different and have something about them, they will live long after the AM have left the building.
  • yeah!! the british press isn't really into American bands, they just care about what comes from Europe, I'm not surprised that they said that, but is a really moronic review!!

    Artic Monkeys are good!!
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  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    wcs wrote:
    Here's the review on the Leeds festival page:

    http://www.meanfiddler.com/displayPage.asp?ArticleID=3362&URLID=66

    "Clearly looking emotional at the band’s first UK festival performance in years, frontman Eddie Vedder also responded to accusations that the group were afraid of leaving their safe US fanbase behind and appearing at UK festivals. Although in characteristic Vedder style, there was no clear reason, as such, merely a lot of umming and arring and half-finished sentences that didn’t really explain a great deal."

    What a jerk, hey?
    I don't think he realised that the problem was not with festivals happening specifically in the UK... and "no clear reason" ?!
    What a jerk? No, not really. He also said:

    "Pearl Jam rounded off the first day at Leeds Festival with a vibrant mix of old and new material. Alternating between established grunge classics like Even Flow and Daughter, as well as a host of well-received new material, such as recent single World Wide Suicide and Severed Hand, from their latest eponymous album, the American rock stars brought a fitting end to the opening day."

    That sounds rather flattering. Ummming and arrring is nothing new in the world of Ed....so he got called out on it. It's just an article, it's just an opinion/observation and he's entitled.
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  • PaulJamPaulJam Posts: 163
    Yes, he is a jerk actually. Everyone knows why they refused to play festivals for a while, but as someone already mentioned, it wasn't as if they only refused to play European festivals. The article clearly shows that the reviewer hasn't bothered to do any homework whatsoever (if he did he'd find out the real reason and how ignorant and insensitive his comments were). He used his own anti-Pearl Jam agenda to fill in the blanks and put a negative spin on it.

    So in summation, yes, he is a twat.
  • wcswcs Posts: 17
    dharma69 wrote:
    Ummming and arrring is nothing new in the world of Ed....so he got called out on it. It's just an article, it's just an opinion/observation and he's entitled.

    Sure he is entitled to an opinion. And my problem was certainly NOT with this journalist criticizing Ed's ummming and arrring. Hell, a lot of times I think it's hard to understand the man as well...

    It's that what Ed said at Leeds was not about "being safe around their US fanbase" or being "afraid to play festivals in the UK". He said something like "It's not guts, playing a festival again... it's trust that you'll take care of each other"... or something along those lines.

    So far as I remember, it had nothing whatsoever to do with playing US or UK. And saying that what Ed said has "no clear reason" is not knowing important aspects about the band before you write a review.
    Deciding to play a festival is something important for Pearl Jam and if you're a journalist who is going to write about it, you should know why.
  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    I read the article....the very brief, tiny, miniscule blip of a story. I read it....I did not read into it. There's the difference.

    For those of you who had the benefit of hearing, reading or seeing something other, heard what the band had to say and have the gaps in the story filled in...good for you. My opinion is based soley on the little blurb I read; nothing else.

    The worst criticism I can give this journalist is either give a complete write-up that actually offers some information or don't bother writing at all.
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