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Milwaukee Bootleg RED DOT MISSING

rna2525rna2525 Posts: 68
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Very Very dissapointed that after purchasing this bootleg that Red Dot is missing from it...I was there and it Officially started with Red Dot before Pendulum....I consider this bootleg incomplete ! anybody else notice this blunder?seems like they didnt pay attention to details.

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  • pjradiopjradio Posts: 6,704
    ppl pissed at Red Dot missing kills me pmsl2.gif
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  • BE9456BE9456 Posts: 148
    Licensing fees.
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,923
    edited December 2014
    North Korea threatened to attack if they included Red Dot so Pearl jam pulled it from the bootleg.
    Post edited by on2legs on
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,102
    on2legs wrote: »
    North Korea threatened to attack if they included Red Dot so Pearl jam buckled pulled it from the bootleg.

    I just heard this and it's freaking crazy. no clue red dot was written in protest against north korea.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    What a tragedy! lol
  • iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,469
    I want my money back since they didn't play this while attending the Milwaukee show.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Uhhhh. I'm pretty sure the OP is kidding. Because I can't imagine anyone being so upset that they would actually consider it a blunder that a song that isn't even worthy enough to play live is not included on the bootleg.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,885
    To be fair I think many people like to hear the whole show so having anything splice out no matter how bad it is, is less than desirable. At least that's how I view it. Especially because it's them play Yield it's entirely, why not include the wart? :)
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,457
    To be fair, nobody REALLY knows what anything we type on the internet means or how we mean to say it.
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  • LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFanLeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan Posts: 3,417
    Have they ever included the walk-on music with any of the bootlegs?
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I always like it when you can hear the intro music winding down on some boots. I definitely remember hearing the symphonic Baba on some 2k boots and Metamorphosis on a boot or 2 from more recent shows. I don't necessarily think they need to have the whole thing, but it would be kinda neat to have that and the crowd swell included.

    In fairness to the op, Red Dot did have more significance as an opener than your typical show.
  • angry_skullangry_skull Posts: 323
    Agreed
  • Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,548
    I'm sure their reel-to-reel tape recorder or whatever archaic technology they use must've broken during that part. You know that's always the case.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 96,846
    Here's an audience recording of Red Dot.

    Files (7.26 MB total)

    01. Red Dot (intro - house music).flac
    http://we.tl/reIVsbtnBM

    Source: Naiant X-X > SP-SPSB-11 > Tascam DR-05
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    To my dismay, they included the 10 minute show-killing speech by that EB doctor on the st paul boot.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    on2legs wrote: »
    North Korea threatened to attack if they included Red Dot so Pearl jam pulled it from the bootleg.
    hahaaha
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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,235
    paulonious wrote: »
    To my dismay, they included the 10 minute show-killing speech by that EB doctor on the st paul boot.


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    Lost In Ohio wrote: »
    paulonious wrote: »
    To my dismay, they included the 10 minute show-killing speech by that EB doctor on the st paul boot.


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    Huh?
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  • JG108535JG108535 Posts: 187
    I agree with you OP. One of the things I was most looking forward to was hearing the show open with Red Dot. Was really looking forward to hearing how it was pulled off live. Kind of blows that its not on the boot.
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    JG108535 wrote: »
    I agree with you OP. One of the things I was most looking forward to was hearing the show open with Red Dot. Was really looking forward to hearing how it was pulled off live. Kind of blows that its not on the boot.

    It was not played live, it was the recording played though the speakers as they walked on stage
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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    pjsteelerfan wrote: »
    JG108535 wrote: »
    I agree with you OP. One of the things I was most looking forward to was hearing the show open with Red Dot. Was really looking forward to hearing how it was pulled off live. Kind of blows that its not on the boot.

    It was not played live, it was the recording played though the speakers as they walked on stage
    Since it was a recording and not played live, that would be why it wasn't included on the boot. They didn't actually play it. Is it the same case with Hummus? They didn't actually play that either, did they?

    (It's here that I tell you that I wasn't there. I'm just going by what I was told/read, so I could very well be wrong.)
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    deadendp wrote: »
    pjsteelerfan wrote: »
    JG108535 wrote: »
    I agree with you OP. One of the things I was most looking forward to was hearing the show open with Red Dot. Was really looking forward to hearing how it was pulled off live. Kind of blows that its not on the boot.

    It was not played live, it was the recording played though the speakers as they walked on stage
    Since it was a recording and not played live, that would be why it wasn't included on the boot. They didn't actually play it. Is it the same case with Hummus? They didn't actually play that either, did they?

    (It's here that I tell you that I wasn't there. I'm just going by what I was told/read, so I could very well be wrong.)

    Hummus not played live either
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  • iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,469
    Hummus was not played live either. Studio recording played as he band walked off stage.
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  • evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    If you don't like the st Paul speech, and have itunes, right click on the song, scroll down to "get info", select options and adjust the stop time so the speech is edited out.

    problem solved.
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  • northerndragonnortherndragon Posts: 9,851
    Because this bugs me everytime I read it, the following is a public service announcement:
    1. The Dr. Spoke for about two minutes total. The rest was Ed if you have a problem with the length take it up with him.
    2. What he said was beautiful and spent most of it praising Ed, the rest of the band and us.
    3. That show was very high energy and we kinda needed the break because holy cow did they just giver for that whole show.
    4.evenflow82 is right.

    Now back to regularly scheduled programming:
    It is a total bummer that Red Dot and Hummus are not on the official boots. It can be fixed digitally with the Aud. Boot but still not on the CDs.
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