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slyhiggsslyhiggs Posts: 130
edited November 2014 in The Porch
i made a post out of anger and rage earlier today that i would like to retract. my appologies, i disrespected what im sure are good people and i take it back.
Thanks
Alpine 9-03-11
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Wrigley 7-19-13
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  • smitalsmital Posts: 187
    lol
  • SaravaSarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,060
    Your post is disrespectful. I agree some improvements should be made, but you really should get that point across in a better way.
  • AmishGuy91AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    edited November 2014
    At this point, I'm sure the entire band is aware of the merch situation since it's been this way for a few years now (albeit getting worse). They obviously have no problem with it.
  • RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,388
    You're losing your mind over a poster.
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    10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
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    4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,877
    edited November 2014
    You do have to wonder how much the band pays attention to this stuff. I would have to think if they knew that people were waiting in lineups (for a half a day sometimes) only to be turned away.. it is pretty crazy.

    The Pearl Jam of old would of been against that. Selling limited edition merch to the masses causing them to wait in line all day to get it. Making fans wait in line all to day to hand them money seems very anti PJ. I have to imagine there's a disconnect between the band and their merch operations.

    Then again, the pop up shop in Seattle last year wasn't much different.. it was also run poorly and that was purely 10c not thinking it through. Limited PJ merch the day after a Seattle show when all the hardcore fans are in town.... Lots of waiting, lots of people, not very much merch.
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  • TinAntTinAnt Posts: 343
    Hard to judge demand on products like these. Nobody in their right mind would guess four months ago that a picture of a tractor would be so popular. Scarcity plays into their demand as well, if they weren't scarce, not everyone would care.
  • RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,388
    People are acting like merch has never sold out before. I missed out on Sevens, the Wrigley posters and the Pittsburgh poster. It happens. There will never be an infinite amount of merch to go around to please everyone.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,428
    that's why they should do preorders on all their stuff.
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Brane_of_JFKBrane_of_JFK Maryland Posts: 1,901
    edited November 2014
    RP112579 said:

    People are acting like merch has never sold out before. I missed out on Sevens, the Wrigley posters and the Pittsburgh poster. It happens. There will never be an infinite amount of merch to go around to please everyone.

    Very true, but I still can't believe that in this day and age a website can't handle a few hundred people trying to buy something. 10C usually gets around 300 or so show edition posters. No reason for the site to practically crash. What I don't understand is that there were only like 350 members signed in when the Moline dropped. Unless every single person who was logged in tried for one, there's no reason why it should have slowed down the site and sold out that fast...
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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    TinAnt said:

    Hard to judge demand on products like these. Nobody in their right mind would guess four months ago that a picture of a tractor would be so popular. Scarcity plays into their demand as well, if they weren't scarce, not everyone would care.

    So true.... I guess an indictment of how bad some of the posters were on this NA tour.

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited November 2014
    3rd prize is...well, you know.

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  • RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,388
    Brane_of_JFK said:

    RP112579 said:

    People are acting like merch has never sold out before. I missed out on Sevens, the Wrigley posters and the Pittsburgh poster. It happens. There will never be an infinite amount of merch to go around to please everyone.

    Very true, but I still can't believe that in this day and age a website can't handle a few hundred people trying to buy something. 10C usually gets around 300 or so show edition posters. No reason for the site to practically crash. What I don't understand is that there were only like 350 members signed in when the Moline dropped. Unless every single person who was logged in tried for one, there's no reason why it should have slowed down the site and sold out that fast...
    I agree with you about the website. It was so slow, I really thought I would get shut out by the time I got to the payment screen. It's frustrating as hell. There is no way it should've bogged down so badly for 350 people on the site.
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    10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
    4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
    8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
    8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
    8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
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  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,169
    slyhiggs said:

    i remember saying to myself when i got 4 people or so away from merch tent in moline and missed out on poster, what would Ed say if he saw this?

    He'd probably be grossed out that merchandise caused this much angst. It's a poster.

    On a related note, I hope this experience finally puts to rest the whole "f5 vs. lottery" debate. Who would want to go back to that?
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  • Brane_of_JFKBrane_of_JFK Maryland Posts: 1,901
    RP112579 said:

    Brane_of_JFK said:

    RP112579 said:

    People are acting like merch has never sold out before. I missed out on Sevens, the Wrigley posters and the Pittsburgh poster. It happens. There will never be an infinite amount of merch to go around to please everyone.

    Very true, but I still can't believe that in this day and age a website can't handle a few hundred people trying to buy something. 10C usually gets around 300 or so show edition posters. No reason for the site to practically crash. What I don't understand is that there were only like 350 members signed in when the Moline dropped. Unless every single person who was logged in tried for one, there's no reason why it should have slowed down the site and sold out that fast...
    I agree with you about the website. It was so slow, I really thought I would get shut out by the time I got to the payment screen. It's frustrating as hell. There is no way it should've bogged down so badly for 350 people on the site.
    Guess I'm just bitter because I got to the payment screen after waiting and waiting to go from one page of the checkout process to the next, entered my CC info, than saw the evil red text stating an item in my cart has been sold out.
  • scurtisscurtis Posts: 2,473
    edited November 2014
    I've noticed they have scheduled sales more recently (posters from this tour and the euro tour), announced sales like the Black Friday one later this week and have done pre-orders like Vault 4.

    Yet, people go nuts when it doesn't work out. You say he/she should be fired, I say he/she has noticeably been trying to make stuff more accessible and switched up the sales, but you can't make everyone happy all of the time.

    Saying someone should be fired is way overboard.
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  • SP96445SP96445 Posts: 215
    Posting a topic on the bands' website demanding one of their employees to be fired because someone couldn't get a poster is an extreme overreaction and will never solve anything except making the OP look ridiculous.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,428
    I wish people would learn to calm down before they have an online fit. think about it. would you have said that out loud to someone? if not, you probably shouldn't have posted it.
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  • slyhiggsslyhiggs Posts: 130
    edited November 2014
    Sarava said:

    Your post is disrespectful. I agree some improvements should be made, but you really should get that point across in a better way.

    Thats why i appologized in my sign off. It felt good typing it, but after i read it i felt bad.
    Alpine 9-03-11
    Alpine 9-04-11
    Wrigley 7-19-13
    Moline 10-17-14
    St. Paul 10-19-14
    Wrigley 8-20-16
    Wrigley 8-22-16
    Wrigley 8-18-18
    Wrigley 8-20-18
    Vegas 05-20-22
    St. Paul 08-31-23
    St. Paul 09-02-23
    Vegas 05-16-24
    Vegas 05-18-24
    "Live in the Present Tense"
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    What's that saying again, IBTL! =))
  • JB128716JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    Funny thing is I love the Leeds poster and Milton Keynes poster and they are both still available and wasn't a fan of Moline.

    Guess it's really not that easy to predict supply and demand.

    And when a band places an order with an artist, I'm sure they order 500 (or whatever the number is) from each artist before the design is made and certainly before the band decides to play an entire album at a show.
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  • slyhiggsslyhiggs Posts: 130
    SP96445 said:

    Posting a topic on the bands' website demanding one of their employees to be fired because someone couldn't get a poster is an extreme overreaction and will never solve anything except making the OP look ridiculous.

    your are absolutely right and i am sorry, like my 8 year old i let the excitement and disapointment get the best of me
    Alpine 9-03-11
    Alpine 9-04-11
    Wrigley 7-19-13
    Moline 10-17-14
    St. Paul 10-19-14
    Wrigley 8-20-16
    Wrigley 8-22-16
    Wrigley 8-18-18
    Wrigley 8-20-18
    Vegas 05-20-22
    St. Paul 08-31-23
    St. Paul 09-02-23
    Vegas 05-16-24
    Vegas 05-18-24
    "Live in the Present Tense"
  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    slyhiggs said:

    SP96445 said:

    Posting a topic on the bands' website demanding one of their employees to be fired because someone couldn't get a poster is an extreme overreaction and will never solve anything except making the OP look ridiculous.

    your are absolutely right and i am sorry, like my 8 year old i let the excitement and disapointment get the best of me
    good call, man.

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

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    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

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    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

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    2022- Smashville 

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    2024- Baltimore

  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    slyhiggs said:

    i made a post out of anger and rage earlier today that i would like to retract. my appologies, i disrespected what im sure are good people and i take it back.
    Thanks

    Nice move - cheers to you for that.

    (and welcome back to Hugh!)
  • marilormarilor St Etienne, France Posts: 618
    I don't know the whole story and i'm not here to judge anybody. But i find it's very brave from you to apologize "publicly". I'm not sure everybody would do it ... Good state of mind ! =D>
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 31,176
    you're fine.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • SaravaSarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,060
    slyhiggs said:

    Sarava said:

    Your post is disrespectful. I agree some improvements should be made, but you really should get that point across in a better way.

    Thats why i appologized in my sign off. It felt good typing it, but after i read it i felt bad.
    Glad you did. GJ man. Now lets hope they up their print runs next tour (whenever that is).
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,225
    This is what makes collecting fun though. The highs and lows. (I did not get a Moline either).
  • SP96445SP96445 Posts: 215
    Welcome back brother
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  • scurtisscurtis Posts: 2,473
    All good OP! Nice work.
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