BILL COSBY IS A CONVICTED RAPIST

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I wonder if Bill chastised the jury like this after their verdict ...
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,396
    oftenreading said:
    I understand that his defense team indicated that they were "absolutely" going to appeal. I wonder what the legal grounds of the appeal will be? You can't just appeal because you don't like the decision; you have to evince a legal error.

    so canadian of you. our only requisite for an appeal is more money.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    being sentenced today. the judge has already agreed to designate him a sexually violent predator. prosecution is asking for maximum of 5-10 years. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJ_Soul said:
    Really why has this not gotten any traction in the news i mean multiple victims and this is the 1st i'm hearing of it , where is the big mouth Sharpton on this ....
    Because there is no evidence.
    interesting. I thought multiple accusations was enough......
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    sentenced to 3-10 years in state prison
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited September 2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Really why has this not gotten any traction in the news i mean multiple victims and this is the 1st i'm hearing of it , where is the big mouth Sharpton on this ....
    Because there is no evidence.
    interesting. I thought multiple accusations was enough......
    Yeah, for a SCOTUS nominee.


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    dankind said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Really why has this not gotten any traction in the news i mean multiple victims and this is the 1st i'm hearing of it , where is the big mouth Sharpton on this ....
    Because there is no evidence.
    interesting. I thought multiple accusations was enough......
    Yeah, for a SCOTUS nominee.


    no, one accusation is enough for a SCOTUS nominee apparrently. multiple are good for a conviction of anyone. I just thought it was interesting since this post from 2014 doesn't seem to line up at all with current opinions. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    sentenced to 3-10 years in state prison
    good for the judge.  can't wait to hear people say you shouldn't put an 81 year old blind man in prison. i know it's coming...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    edited September 2018
    I haven't seen it, have they said he can be out pending appeals or what?  If he is, he'll never see a day and the sentence is meaningless.

    Edit: here's the answer.  Wow



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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited September 2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dankind said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Really why has this not gotten any traction in the news i mean multiple victims and this is the 1st i'm hearing of it , where is the big mouth Sharpton on this ....
    Because there is no evidence.
    interesting. I thought multiple accusations was enough......
    Yeah, for a SCOTUS nominee.


    no, one accusation is enough for a SCOTUS nominee apparrently. multiple are good for a conviction of anyone. I just thought it was interesting since this post from 2014 doesn't seem to line up at all with current opinions. 
    Lol. Jesus, I can't believe you actually spent your time doing this HFD. I'm really not sure what your motivation is here, but I know it's not just because you find it "interesting".
    Yes, it all lines up. As dankind pointed out, and as I pointed out myself several times in the AMT, the fact that it's a SCOTUS nominee during confirmation hearings is EXTREMELY relevant.
    Also, my perspective about media coverage of Cosby 4 years ago isn't relevant now in any case, whether you compare it to the totally different situation with Kavanaugh or not. Has it occurred to you that my evolving perspective, as shown in this thread and others, has been influenced by the Cosby case, by Trump, by Weinstein, by #metoo, and how accusations are handled and perceived? I guess not.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    edited September 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dankind said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Really why has this not gotten any traction in the news i mean multiple victims and this is the 1st i'm hearing of it , where is the big mouth Sharpton on this ....
    Because there is no evidence.
    interesting. I thought multiple accusations was enough......
    Yeah, for a SCOTUS nominee.


    no, one accusation is enough for a SCOTUS nominee apparrently. multiple are good for a conviction of anyone. I just thought it was interesting since this post from 2014 doesn't seem to line up at all with current opinions. 
    Lol. Jesus, I can't believe you actually spent your time doing this HFD. I'm really not sure what your motivation is here, but I know it's not just because you find it "interesting".
    Yes, it all lines up. As dankind pointed out, and as I pointed out myself several times in the AMT, the fact that it's a SCOTUS nominee during confirmation hearings is EXTREMELY relevant.
    Also, my perspective about media coverage of Cosby 4 years ago isn't relevant now in any case, whether you compare it to the totally different situation with Kavanaugh or not. Has it occurred to you that my evolving perspective, as shown in this thread and others, has been influenced by the Cosby case and how accusations are handled and perceived? I guess not.
    spent time looking back at the original post and then noticing your post a few below that, that completely contradicts your current opinion on the matter? it was about 2 seconds. 

    as I pointed out to dankind, the take of many is this:

    -one accusation is good enough to disqualify a SCOTUS nominee, so that's not what I was referencing here
    -multiple accusations make them all credible, no matter who the accused is (but back in 2014, to you, not cosby)

    yes, I did find it interesting. why? because it's a complete 180. and in the context of a discussion about sexual assault/rape, that's pretty significant. 

    but by all means, assume I have some ulterior motive. ok.  
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    This is fun


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    what does it mean, 3-10 years? doesn't that just mean he'll serve 3 years?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    what does it mean, 3-10 years? doesn't that just mean he'll serve 3 years?
    Basically.  Read that the average sentence in PA for this is 2-5, so definitely didn't take it easy on him.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dankind said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Really why has this not gotten any traction in the news i mean multiple victims and this is the 1st i'm hearing of it , where is the big mouth Sharpton on this ....
    Because there is no evidence.
    interesting. I thought multiple accusations was enough......
    Yeah, for a SCOTUS nominee.


    no, one accusation is enough for a SCOTUS nominee apparrently. multiple are good for a conviction of anyone. I just thought it was interesting since this post from 2014 doesn't seem to line up at all with current opinions. 
    Lol. Jesus, I can't believe you actually spent your time doing this HFD. I'm really not sure what your motivation is here, but I know it's not just because you find it "interesting".
    Yes, it all lines up. As dankind pointed out, and as I pointed out myself several times in the AMT, the fact that it's a SCOTUS nominee during confirmation hearings is EXTREMELY relevant.
    Also, my perspective about media coverage of Cosby 4 years ago isn't relevant now in any case, whether you compare it to the totally different situation with Kavanaugh or not. Has it occurred to you that my evolving perspective, as shown in this thread and others, has been influenced by the Cosby case and how accusations are handled and perceived? I guess not.
    spent time looking back at the original post and then noticing your post a few below that, that completely contradicts your current opinion on the matter? it was about 2 seconds. 

    as I pointed out to dankind, the take of many is this:

    -one accusation is good enough to disqualify a SCOTUS nominee, so that's not what I was referencing here
    -multiple accusations make them all credible, no matter who the accused is (but back in 2014, to you, not cosby)

    yes, I did find it interesting. why? because it's a complete 180. and in the context of a discussion about sexual assault/rape, that's pretty significant. 

    but by all means, assume I have some ulterior motive. ok.  
    I think your ulterior motive was to basically just try and stick it to me, lol.
    And no, it's not a complete 180. Once I knew there were multiple accusers and had the details I was fully convinced. What you quoted above was me explaining why there was no traction in the media, not me stating that I didn't believe multiple accusers. I think I did say something early on about being suspicious but reserving my ultimate decision until I knew more, and that was short-lived, because I did learn more and made a decision.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    Cliffy6745 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    what does it mean, 3-10 years? doesn't that just mean he'll serve 3 years?
    Basically.  Read that the average sentence in PA for this is 2-5, so definitely didn't take it easy on him.
    I get that the prosecution was asking for 5-10. But since when does a sentence from the judge include the range in it? is it because of sex offender status that they can choose to keep him in for the maximum 10 if they believe he'll reoffend?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    I wonder if he'll even see the inside of a prison cell. they are going to appeal, and I don't know they'll incarcerate him during that process if he was allowed bail during the initial trial. it's quite possible he'll die before this is all resolved. 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wonder if he'll even see the inside of a prison cell. they are going to appeal, and I don't know they'll incarcerate him during that process if he was allowed bail during the initial trial. it's quite possible he'll die before this is all resolved. 
    I asked the same thing above, but his bail was revoked and he is being take straight to county for processing then on to state at some point.  He was taking off valuables in the court room.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    what does it mean, 3-10 years? doesn't that just mean he'll serve 3 years?
    Basically.  Read that the average sentence in PA for this is 2-5, so definitely didn't take it easy on him.
    I get that the prosecution was asking for 5-10. But since when does a sentence from the judge include the range in it? is it because of sex offender status that they can choose to keep him in for the maximum 10 if they believe he'll reoffend?
    I think most sentences in the US are a range.  The minimum is when you get out if you behave well, the max is the max.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Cliffy6745 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wonder if he'll even see the inside of a prison cell. they are going to appeal, and I don't know they'll incarcerate him during that process if he was allowed bail during the initial trial. it's quite possible he'll die before this is all resolved. 
    I asked the same thing above, but his bail was revoked and he is being take straight to county for processing then on to state at some point.  He was taking off valuables in the court room.
    Yeah, he'll be spending at least some time behind bars.... I'm going to guess that he'll be separated from other prisoners.
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