Binaural Sequel?

2-feign-reluctance

No Pearl Jam album stinks in my opinion. Guess that's the difference between those that will always love the band & those that conditionally love the band.

PJ_Soul

2-feign-reluctance said:

No Pearl Jam album stinks in my opinion. Guess that's the difference between those that will always love the band & those that conditionally love the band.

I don't know if that makes sense. I don't like Backspacer at all, and despise a handful of their songs (Future Days, etc), yet I still LOVE the band. THAT is unconditional love, i.e., even of they put out a stinker I still love them every bit as much as I always did - if anything, I like the band more and more as time goes on, despite a recent bad album.

... not that I'm proud to say I may feel unconditional love for this band. Unless you're talking about your own children, having unconditional love for something is usually actually pretty stupid. It makes you a doormat or a sucker, lol.

RoleModelsinBlood31

2-feign-reluctance said:

No Pearl Jam album stinks in my opinion. Guess that's the difference between those that will always love the band & those that conditionally love the band.

That's because you're a die hard fan. There's nothing wrong with people who just love a large variety of music either. There's 1000's of bands out there, everyone has their own tastes. Most people on here just love anything PJ, and are more than somewhat biased about their catalogue. I don't think it's a conditional fan as you put it, just fans who happen to be fans of things other than Pj too.

Think about it this way- if you weren't a huge Doors fan, would you give a shit about The Soft Parade? Probably not. But die hard doors fans will argue back and forth all day about how fantastic that album is.

Binaural to the general public is NOT known as an amazing album. It's just not. You can argue the merits of it all day, but it's simply not their shining achievement as a band, and album sales show it was their first album to not reach platinum level.

PJ_Soul

I don't think that's it either. I am a die hard fan. And i am also a huge fan of a lot of other bands/music. I can't relate with the idea of only listening to Pearl Jam or even listening to them a majority of the time. And there are some things the PJ has done that i don't like. And i think everyone knows I'm a HUGE dedicated PJ fan anyway (and LOVE Binaural). Being honest and discriminating about PJ's work doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how much someone loves the band or how big a fan they are. If anything, I find it weird that some people think we have to be in love with everything the band does to be a dedicated fan. That makes no sense to me. Blind love isn't even fulfilling.

(Anyway, Wtf were we talking about?? Lol. Oh yeah... Binaural 2. Would be awesome. )

RoleModelsinBlood31

^^ I don't agree. I think there's a lot of blind love of their stuff. Some of their merch is just terrible, we have to agree on that- but there's some people on this forum who will say it's fantastic, even when knowing that it's a bit crappy.

PJ_Soul

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

^^ I don't agree. I think there's a lot of blind love of their stuff. Some of their merch is just terrible, we have to agree on that- but there's some people on this forum who will say it's fantastic, even when knowing that it's a bit crappy.

Yes, there is a lot of blind love... i was saying that I don't get it and was making the point that one needn't have blind love for the band to be a dedicated fan, since I am a dedicated huge fan and don't have blind love for everything the band does..... what are you disagreeing with?? I don't understand, lol.

RoleModelsinBlood31

^^ then I agree! I disagree with disagreeing.

PJ_Soul

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RoleModelsinBlood31

Anyway, back to binaural

PJ_Soul

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Anyway, back to binaural

Just spun it q couple hours ago... it was awesome. Parting Ways just might be PJ's best album closer (or maybe All or None). I particularly like the heavy "Jeff sound" on Binaural. So when I think about them doing another album that seems like a follow up to this album I automatically think of it as a Jeff album. You can really hear touches of it in Jeff's side projects even - that Jeffy style, lol.

NewJPage

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

No Pearl Jam album stinks in my opinion. Guess that's the difference between those that will always love the band & those that conditionally love the band.

Think about it this way- if you weren't a huge Doors fan, would you give a shit about The Soft Parade? Probably not. But die hard doors fans will argue back and forth all day about how fantastic that album is.

Soft parade is amazing. Their best (just ahead of strange days)

JT_JamFan

I am a huge Doors fan, but if I were trapped on a desert island with only the Soft Parade I would cut it into flippers to swim away with... I would love to hear the Binaural recording technique used again, BUT it would be cool if it were used to record stronger material. Binaural is a good album, but not their best songwriting, in my opinion. I would have loved to have heard Yield or No Code recorded that way. Or even Lightning Bolt.

2-feign-reluctance

Poor adjective choice earlier. Pearl Jam is one of few bands where I love all the records. What does that say about fans who don't share the same sentiment? Who knows. Words escape me. Binaural is a beautiful record. I'd love to hear all of what Tchad Blake did to be honest.

RobbyD462

I'm listening to the vinyl on my Beats studio headphones right now!
Great album! Of the Girl,Light Years,NAIS,Soon Forget and Breakerfall wow

Pj soul is right, one of there best sounding vinyls like LD and Riot Act
Took some time to grow but it's killer!

I wasn't a huge fan of avocado when it came out cause 10 000 Days came out the same day but I really enjoy that album now as well.

Makes me wonder if I'll like Backspacer in 10 years......

derbydave

RobbyD462 said:

Makes me wonder if I'll like Backspacer in 10 years......

It COULD happen!!!
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bootlegger10

2-feign-reluctance said:

Poor adjective choice earlier. Pearl Jam is one of few bands where I love all the records. What does that say about fans who don't share the same sentiment? Who knows. Words escape me. Binaural is a beautiful record. I'd love to hear all of what Tchad Blake did to be honest.

Why does it need to say something? Sounds like you think you are special or a better fan because you like Binaural. No great album can start with 3 clunkers like Breakerfall, Evacuation and God's Dice.

javis el errante

Binaural kicks ass! Great songs, great sound, I don't know what technique you are talking about, not my fav but almost, it took me 9 years to get the vinyl, that's why I cherish it, but during Binaural era I listened PJ the most, not only Binaural but all albums up to then, all 13 songs are worthy, Breakerfall, Light Years, NAIS, Thin Air, Of the girl, Rival, Grievance, SOH and Parting ways, one of the best closer, besides, the best non lp tracks are from that era too... If you don't like it it's fine but saying it sucks it's pretty far fetched...

2-feign-reluctance

bootlegger10 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Poor adjective choice earlier. Pearl Jam is one of few bands where I love all the records. What does that say about fans who don't share the same sentiment? Who knows. Words escape me. Binaural is a beautiful record. I'd love to hear all of what Tchad Blake did to be honest.

Why does it need to say something? Sounds like you think you are special or a better fan because you like Binaural. No great album can start with 3 clunkers like Breakerfall, Evacuation and God's Dice.

That is some interesting insight.

PJ_Soul

I love those 3 opening songs.
I know a lot of people particularly dislike Evacuation. But I dig it.

Binaural has spent some time as my favorite PJ album. It's amazing, and yeah, I'd love another album that has that darker tone. But recently Riot Act has surpassed it and become my #1.

YLed2

Binaural is middle of the pack at best. Goes to show how truly great of a catalog the boys have.