Jian Ghomeshi fired from CBC / apparent sex scandal

dignin

evsgjamm said:

The list of people he's had amazing interviews with are astounding.

Deadmau 5
Jon Stewart
Leonard Cohen
Julian Assange
Boy George
Jason Schwartzman
Jake Gyllenhaal
Tim Minchin
William H. Macy
Barbara Streisand
Barbara Walters
Bill Hader

He's done live shows in Portland, L.A., (all across Canada of course) and was just beginning to broaden his horizons even more-so in the U.S. as his show "Q" gained popularity.

His support for great music, his compelling, thought-provoking, inspiring and dare-I-say "innovative" interviews, his passion for Canada and the CBC, his passion for the voice of the people, the power of the people and the stories that people tell, are what draw his audiences from around the globe.

It's really unfortunate that all this bullshit is happening. Lucy from Trailer Park Boys is claiming he choked and slapped her.

Here's another account of one of the women:

Woman :And then once we started up, once we started talking dirty to each other about it, he might text something like, “I want to choke you and spank you and slap you,” and I would be like, “And I want you to do all those things to me! Oh, my god, do all those things to me! Slapping or BDSM type stuff never happened out in the world, not in cabs or elevators. The plan was I was coming to a hotel, we were going to have sex, then we would go have dinner. So he would grab me right when I came in, and he would start, and we would start up our regular sexy banter. But that was what I wanted.

Interviewer: He was never aggressive or violent outside of sex and the sex play that you enjoyed and consented to?

Woman: Correct.

Interviewer: Have you heard from friends who knew about your relationship?

Woman: A couple of them have called—or they’ve texted. Not so much friends, just acquaintances who heard about it. It’s been very upsetting. I got text messages from people I barely know asking, “Hey, were you raped?” Is that a fucking text message you send to someone? Do you send that to anyone ever? At first I didn’t know what they were texting me about. I hadn’t heard the news or seen Jian’s piece about what was happening.
Did he ever slap or punch you?
Slap, yes, but no punching at all. It was consensual. There would be marks, a little bit, but they would be gone in less than an hour. No bruising or anything.
Was he ever verbally abusive?
No. He called me “slut” but never outside of the sex scene stuff. He would’ve stopped if I didn’t like it, like he stopped saying that “destroy you” thing.

Interviewer: When did your relationship end? Who ended it?

Woman: It was never really going to be a “thing,” so it faded in and out. I last had sex with him in March. We’re like basically friends with benefits. It got less intense—we started out talking every day for a while, but that stopped maybe in January of 2013. It started in October of 2012. We kept in contact, but it got less intense.

Interviewer: Was he seeing other women during that time?

Woman: I didn’t know it, but I would’ve assumed it. I was seeing other people.


However, I think he's going to get the shit kicked out him with the word of the law. The women who say he engaged in choking and slapping are going to get the best of him. He's going to get screwed over, but he's going to bounce back and will be back on the airwaves, telling his stories first, then he'll get a show and will have his die-hard audience back. Maybe he'll ease off the rough sex for the rest of his life.

I'm currently on Jian's side and I think he's being manipulated.

Source?

lolobugg

someone should interview Big Ears Teddy as a witness.
I am sure he has seen heard it all

PJ_Soul

It all comes down to whether or not the women accusing him are liars or not. Trying to benefit in some way. Or honestly victims. Just because one woman said it was all consensual, it doesn't mean that's how it was for everyone. On the other hand, since it sounds like this guy banged a new person every other night or something, if only 9 out of, say, 500 women have come forward to accuse him of something, then perhaps they are the 9 gold diggers who think they can sue, or are bitter and are seeking revenge, or some shit like that. Who knows? Only them and Jian.
As for the CBC... there are accusations of inappropriate behaviour at work. Legal or not legal, if he was getting sexual with people in the office in any way, then he should be fired.

dignin

police are now investigating

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto-police-investigating-jian-ghomeshi-allegations-1.2820337

benjs

PJ_Soul said:

It all comes down to whether or not the women accusing him are liars or not. Trying to benefit in some way. Or honestly victims. Just because one woman said it was all consensual, it doesn't mean that's how it was for everyone. On the other hand, since it sounds like this guy banged a new person every other night or something, if only 9 out of, say, 500 women have come forward to accuse him of something, then perhaps they are the 9 gold diggers who think they can sue, or are bitter and are seeking revenge, or some shit like that. Who knows? Only them and Jian.
As for the CBC... there are accusations of inappropriate behaviour at work. Legal or not legal, if he was getting sexual with people in the office in any way, then he should be fired.

For me the red flag is that Jian was fired by the 'damage control' company Navigator. I would assume a company whose purpose is to manage high-profile crises would be asking him for EVERY single detail about his life prior to taking him on as a client. The fact that he's been let go as a client suggests to me that there were facts obfuscated or omitted.

evsgjamm

dignin said:

Source?

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/10/29/interviews-with-two-women-who-dated-jian-ghomeshi

dignin

evsgjamm said:

dignin said:

Source?

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/10/29/interviews-with-two-women-who-dated-jian-ghomeshi

Thanks.

zarocat

A lawyer firm just came forward and released a statement saying that any of the people that have come forward with a complaint against this guy will receive their services for free, so they have the exact same representation as he will have, to level the playing field.

Wow!

http://m.torontosun.com/2014/11/06/lawyers-offering-free-legal-assistance-to-jian-ghomeshi-complainants

PJ_Soul

Wow, that is some generous self-interest! :-bd

dignin

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/jian-ghomeshi-charged-with-sexual-assault/article21788631/

HughFreakingDillon

his interview of Billy Bob Thornton and his band is stuff of legend.

HughFreakingDillon

even flow - question mark said:

I wonder why sooooooooooooo many women who get smacked around whether by Jian or by their loving boyfriend/husband or just on a date, never, ever, go to the police and file a report or just leave the relationship. Blows my male mind!!!

And I do find the excuses rather amusing and lame all at the same time.

I was of the same mind.....then I read this.......

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sandy-garossino/jian-ghomeshi-women-report-sex-assault_b_6059124.html

dignin

paulonious said:

even flow - question mark said:

I wonder why sooooooooooooo many women who get smacked around whether by Jian or by their loving boyfriend/husband or just on a date, never, ever, go to the police and file a report or just leave the relationship. Blows my male mind!!!

And I do find the excuses rather amusing and lame all at the same time.

I was of the same mind.....then I read this.......

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sandy-garossino/jian-ghomeshi-women-report-sex-assault_b_6059124.html

Brutal what these women have to go through.

lukin2006

Jian Ghomeshi found not guilty on all charges as judge acquits him of sexual assault, choking
http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-ruling

dignin

The accusers were terrible witnesses.

lukin2006

I didn't follow the trial.

HughFreakingDillon

dignin said:

The accusers were terrible witnesses.

their case may have been helped if they didn't fucking lie about contact post-alleged-assault. that was just ridiculously stupid. if you are going to put yourself out there like that, make sure you are telling the truth. in this digital age, nothing remains hidden.

dignin

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

The accusers were terrible witnesses.

their case may have been helped if they didn't fucking lie about contact post-alleged-assault. that was just ridiculously stupid. if you are going to put yourself out there like that, make sure you are telling the truth. in this digital age, nothing remains hidden.

Agreed. I have little doubt that he is a sleazeball, but they fucked themselves over. It was a long time ago and I understand forgetting a lot of stuff, but they "forgot" some really serious information.

PJ_Soul

dignin said:

The accusers were terrible witnesses.

Yeah, they really were. I guess Ghomeshi really knows how to pick 'em.
I don't understand why the lawyers allowed those women to go up there and lie about having contact after the incidents when they had been out in public having photos taken and shit. Stupid. Made no sense.
Also, this is not a good thing for the vicitms' rights cause at all.

northerndragon

lukin2006 said:

Jian Ghomeshi found not guilty on all charges as judge acquits him of sexual assault, choking
http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-ruling

Well that's too bad, hopefully memories aren't short and he doesn't get the chance to go back into public life.

oftenreading

Really the only verdict that could have been reached in this trial, given the state of the evidence and the witnesses.

dignin

Neil Macdonald really nails this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ghomeshi-verdict-judge-neil-macdonald-1.3506958

hsohi

His lawyer was amazing... Ted Cruz should hire her.

PJfanwillneverleave1

This has an OJ feel to it but he has been proclaimed innocent.