The board has lost its grit

callen

The board has lost its grit. Strong banter. Widely varieing positions. Strong positions. Intelligent positions

Only active post people agreeing about fairies. Fk.

No longer a moving train but kiddie ride at local carnival.

Been neutered.

Jason P

hedonist

callen said:

The board has lost its grit. Strong banter. Widely varieing positions. Strong positions. Intelligent positions

Only active post people agreeing about fairies. Fk.

No longer a moving train but kiddie ride at local carnival.

Been neutered.

Nice.

Not sure how balls were removed or by whom, but it seems most here speak pretty freely (thankfully so).

God forbid we might agree on some things. God forbid we might not.

You know...when it feels like you can't post without taking shots, a little breather can be quite refreshing.

(love me a nice carnival, too!)

chadwick

nice fucking thread

JimmyV

The board is fine. I don't think there is a lack of strong banter, and certainly there is no lack of varying, strong and/or intelligent positions. Grit is good and here to stay.

I took a breather from AMT a few months ago. When I came back I tried hard to not fall back into old patterns and arguments, and to try and keep my tone as respectful as possible. MAN is that hard! ;-) It does feel better though and I enjoy posting here once again.

josevolution

The banning of some members have def put a damper on this place ....

hedonist

Jason P said:

Love Jeff but I'm old school

What's with the switching up of the eye patch?

chadwick

jeff probably can see before out of his left eye. you know like when we do the eye test & cover up a eye, read letters off & cover the other eye & read letters off.

hedonist

chadwick said:

jeff probably can see before out of his left eye. you know like when we do the eye test & cover up a eye, read letters off & cover the other eye & read letters off.

Ah, makes sense. Fine actor, that one (plus seems downright cool/geniune too).

rr165892

I don't know Callen,I think there is still some quality discussions going on.What kinda thing do you think your missing?

gimmesometruth27

this is what happens when people get banned. they post elsewhere, and people who support them or enjoyed interacting with them, or think their banning was wrong also post elsewhere.

personally, i am kind of over politics right now. i feel like i have already posted everything i have to say about the active topics on the first page. the same ones we always talk about. guns, war, occupation, climate change, cops, etc. i have said it all before.

i am tired of arguing, and if i can avoid it, these days i choose to avoid it.

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josevolution said:

The banning of some members have def put a damper on this place ....

Winner.

The bans are idiotic.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Permanent bans don't seem very cool to me and we have lost some quality people, but I have to ask: are the bans idiotic... or is the banned idiotic?

Unless a person is a fool, they know the extent to which they can assault someone with. There have been numerous times where I have felt like coming unglued on someone, but exercised restraint knowing the consequences for doing so. If a person chooses to dig their fangs in and push the envelope, then they have nobody to blame except for themselves. In some cases, I feel that some of the people banned have forced the issue (perhaps knowingly).

Is there a standard to which members need to adhere to? Apparently 10C staff and PJ feel so and since it is their forum... they can exercise their right to enforce baseline codes of conduct.

All this pissing and moaning about let us behave any way we want is growing really tiresome to read. If you think the boards suck... you have an element of control as well: you don't have to post or... you don't have to pay for your membership.

rr165892

gimmesometruth27 said:

this is what happens when people get banned. they post elsewhere, and people who support them or enjoyed interacting with them, or think their banning was wrong also post elsewhere.

personally, i am kind of over politics right now. i feel like i have already posted everything i have to say about the active topics on the first page. the same ones we always talk about. guns, war, occupation, climate change, cops, etc. i have said it all before.

i am tired of arguing, and if i can avoid it, these days i choose to avoid it.

Good post gimme.i agree sometimes the same topics repeat in multiple threads.
But since this is a Pearl Jam site,and it is 48 hrs until the St.Fuckin Louis show you should be jacked up and maybe head over to the porch to follow what tonight's set list is in Cincy so we can rule out what we will get on Friday.I am expecting big things from your city.I want Beer,BBQ and Rock n Roll.

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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Permanent bans don't seem very cool to me and we have lost some quality people, but I have to ask: are the bans idiotic... or is the banned idiotic?

Unless a person is a fool, they know the extent to which they can assault someone with. There have been numerous times where I have felt like coming unglued on someone, but exercised restraint knowing the consequences for doing so. If a person chooses to dig their fangs in and push the envelope, then they have nobody to blame except for themselves. In some cases, I feel that some of the people banned have forced the issue (perhaps knowingly).

Is there a standard to which members need to adhere to? Apparently 10C staff and PJ feel so and since it is their forum... they can exercise their right to enforce baseline codes of conduct.

All this pissing and moaning about let us behave any way we want is growing really tiresome to read. If you think the boards suck... you have an element of control as well: you don't have to post or... you don't have to pay for your membership.

Permanent bans are idiotic. Yes there are rules. And if the rules are broken, there should be punishment. I just don't think permanent bans should be one of those punishments. A 1-6 month ban would get the point across (to most people).

I am not a paying customer for these forums. But if I was banned from the boards permanently, I might not renew my membership. Why risk losing that business when it could have been avoided with a 6 month ban?

There is no need for name calling by anyone to anyone here. And I'm not defending anyone, but I think some here are go thin skinned to be active in AMT.

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I'll also say that I have no clue what the mods have to go through on a daily basis. Their job has to be difficult enough and when you add repeat offenders to the mix, I'm sure they get tired of warnings. I get it. My point is that perma bans shouldnt be used as often.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

As I mentioned, permanent bans aren't exactly cool.

But there are ways to make your point without being an asshole. You might say people should have thicker skin to participate on the MT, I say people should be more respectful.

I'm guilty of being dickish at times and have had the reminders via private messages from the mods. Fair enough because ultimately... they were correct. And ultimately, my venom was directed at a human being with their own personal story.

Who am I to flaunt my perspective as if there could be no other- mocking those that disagree with me?

hedonist

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Permanent bans don't seem very cool to me and we have lost some quality people, but I have to ask: are the bans idiotic... or is the banned idiotic?

Unless a person is a fool, they know the extent to which they can assault someone with. There have been numerous times where I have felt like coming unglued on someone, but exercised restraint knowing the consequences for doing so. If a person chooses to dig their fangs in and push the envelope, then they have nobody to blame except for themselves. In some cases, I feel that some of the people banned have forced the issue (perhaps knowingly).

Is there a standard to which members need to adhere to? Apparently 10C staff and PJ feel so and since it is their forum... they can exercise their right to enforce baseline codes of conduct.

All this pissing and moaning about let us behave any way we want is growing really tiresome to read. If you think the boards suck... you have an element of control as well: you don't have to post or... you don't have to pay for your membership.

I tend to agree with this - and I imagine when it comes to permanence, it's been preceded by warnings and maybe some (for lack of a better term, or maybe fitting?) timeouts. I'd rather suspensions vs expulsions happen, but...though I pay, I see it as being in my host's living room. Have fun, have discussions - even passionate ones - but don't be a dick. Or try not to be a dick when asked not to be a dick.

Not that I'm calling anyone who's been banned a dick...just trying to draw an analogy.

I have fun here, I enjoy many of the discussions as well as those who contribute, I learn from others and have examined / reaffirmed / revised my views many a time.

"I got memories, I got grit"

hedonist

rr165892 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

this is what happens when people get banned. they post elsewhere, and people who support them or enjoyed interacting with them, or think their banning was wrong also post elsewhere.

personally, i am kind of over politics right now. i feel like i have already posted everything i have to say about the active topics on the first page. the same ones we always talk about. guns, war, occupation, climate change, cops, etc. i have said it all before.

i am tired of arguing, and if i can avoid it, these days i choose to avoid it.

Good post gimme.i agree sometimes the same topics repeat in multiple threads.
But since this is a Pearl Jam site,and it is 48 hrs until the St.Fuckin Louis show you should be jacked up and maybe head over to the porch to follow what tonight's set list is in Cincy so we can rule out what we will get on Friday.I am expecting big things from your city.I want Beer,BBQ and Rock n Roll.

Yeah, hope you both have a blast!

As to the topics, sure some can get repetitive, but I also like when an issue veers in some unexpected but related direction so that it's not necessarily the same discussion ad nauseum.

Also like seeing "fresh meat" (ha!) join the fray. Seems kind of cyclical, like most everything else.

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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As I mentioned, permanent bans aren't exactly cool.

But there are ways to make your point without being an asshole. You might say people should have thicker skin to participate on the MT, I say people should be more respectful.

I'm guilty of being dickish at times and have had the reminders via private messages from the mods. Fair enough because ultimately... they were correct. And ultimately, my venom was directed at a human being with their own personal story.

Who am I to flaunt my perspective as if there could be no other- mocking those that disagree with me?

I hear ya. People shouldnt be dicks. I have seen first hand where people have gotten way to sensitive to comments that weren't "against the posted rules."

I agree with you guys though, I really do. Treat others as you wish to be treated.

brianlux

There are plenty of good topics out there that's for sure, but yeah, kinda weak in some of the response. Look at the shit I posted about sea mammal slaughter. We got one decenter who thinks that's all flavor of the month stuff and a few nice folks who came to my defense (for which I am most grateful) but I don't need or want kudos- where is either a well constructed argument defending the whaling or where is the outrage over the killing? And yet we all go on and on about some yahoo who jumped the white house fence as if that means shit to a tree. While we have while 43 new posts about paranormal experiences, why only four responses to the efforts of the Columbine school district to silence the truth and lie to our kids? That's some much more serious shit going down.

I don't agree with perma-banning anymore than any one else buts that isn't why this place has gone flat. It's us who have gone flat. On the other hand, I have to say, I don't miss the personal bating, the name calling and the aggravation that has often happened here. We can be fired up and strongly disagree on issues and still be civil with each other. This place has beaucoup potential. Let's take advantage of that opportunity!