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    chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    Idris said:

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    unsung said:

    In this case if he was shot and killed it would have been the right decision.


    I agree but it would have turned into a media and rights circus.

    Godfather.

    Disagree. The lady with car was blown away and not that much backlash. This guy was armed and in white house so wouldn't have been big deal.
    Yep, I'm thinking that also.

    (btw was this guy really armed?)
    Think he had a knife.
    the seeds of doubt have been planted , now it's time for what if's


    Godfather.

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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    WASHINGTON — Secret Service Director Julia Pierson has resigned amid security lapses at the White House. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said Wednesday that Pierson offered her resignation, and he accepted it. ...
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    rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    She won't be the only one.More are coming.
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rr165892 said:

    She won't be the only one.More are coming.

    ohhhh yeah no doubt.

    Godfather.

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,323
    unsung said:

    He overpowered the first agent he came across, she physically could not stop him. I'll leave it at that.

    say it. It suggests to me that you think or believe that women arent capable of this job. what I have heard is that she was in the process of physically locking the door when he burst through.


    why though is the focus now one one who WAS trying to do as protocol suggested? Wheres the remarks about the other layers of security OUTSIDE of the building?

    from wiki

    Uniformed Division

    The Uniformed Division is similar to the United States Capitol Police and is in charge of protecting the physical White House grounds and foreign diplomatic missions in the Washington, D.C. area. Established in 1922 as the White House Police, this organization was fully integrated into the Secret Service in 1930. In 1970, the protection of foreign diplomatic missions was added to the force's responsibilities, and its name was changed to the Executive Protective Service. The name United States Secret Service Uniformed Division was adopted in 1977.

    With more than 1,300 officers as of 2010, the Uniformed Division is responsible for security at the White House Complex; the vice president's residence; the Department of the Treasury (as part of the White House Complex); and foreign diplomatic missions in the Washington, D.C., area. Uniformed Division officers carry out their protective responsibilities through a network of fixed security posts, foot, bicycle, vehicular and motorcycle patrols

    The Uniformed Division has three branches: the White House Branch, the Foreign Missions Branch, and the Naval Observatory Branch. Together they provide protection for the following: the president, vice president, and their immediate families; presidential candidates; the White House Complex; the Vice President's Residence; the main Treasury Department building and its annex facility; and foreign diplomatic missions in the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area.[40]

    Officers are responsible for providing additional support to the Secret Service's protective mission through the following special support groups:

    The Counter Sniper Team (CS): Created in 1971, the CS's purpose is to provide specialized protective support to defend against long-range threats to Secret Service protectees.[41]

    The Canine Explosives Detection Unit (K-9): Created in 1976, the mission of the K-9 unit is to provide skilled and specialized explosives detection support to protective efforts involving Secret Service protectees.[41]

    The Emergency Response Team (ERT): Formed in 1992, ERT's primary mission is to provide tactical response to unlawful intrusions and other protective challenges related to the White House and its grounds. ERT personnel receive specialized, advanced training and must maintain a high level of physical and operational proficiency.[41]

    Officers assigned to CS, ERT, and K9, are designated "Technicians" to recognize their advanced training. Today these units are part of the agency's Special Operations Division.

    The Magnetometer Support Unit: Formed to ensure that all persons entering secure areas occupied by Secret Service protectees are unarmed,[41] the Secret Service began relying on magnetometer (metal detector) support by Uniformed Division officers to augment its protective efforts away from the White House following the attempt to assassinate President Ronald Reagan.

    The Secret Service Uniformed Division's statutory authority is set out in Title 18, §3056A of the U. S. Code.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,323
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,323
    in the military when there are incidents serious enough to warrant it, they will have a safety stand down.they use this time to really assess what is going on and in what ways they can and should improve. be it new protocols, new equipment, whatever is needed to better execute the mission they are tasked with.

    Obviously, they cant completely stand down, but a similar process needs to be had in many depts. An absolute honest assessment and report of same with reasonable and logical corrections to be implemented. This isnt a kneejerk "we have to do something" thing but a thoughtful, methodical approach to addressing the issues an agency faces.

    I would suggest a rethink of DHS as a good place to start.
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