End the slaughter of dolphins, porpoises and whales in the "Cove", Taiji, Japan!

Each year, thousands of dolphins, porpoises and whales are killed in the “Cove” in a village called Taiji, Japan. Here's a link that tells you what you can do to help stop the slaughter.

Thanks for checking it out!

http://www.seashepherd.org/cove-guardians/what-you-can-do.html
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  • The reason I find it hard to get behind these "stop this, it's wrong" issues are because it's been a year since the last season. Now that it's a new season and is in the news you want to stand against it. If it wasn't a recent headline, chances are you probably wouldn't have put two thoughts into it. Glad to see sensationalism doesn't work.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042

    The reason I find it hard to get behind these "stop this, it's wrong" issues are because it's been a year since the last season. Now that it's a new season and is in the news you want to stand against it. If it wasn't a recent headline, chances are you probably wouldn't have put two thoughts into it. Glad to see sensationalism doesn't work.

    Are you kidding? I don't know about you or anyone else (and it's not my responsibility to keep track of who does) but I think about this kind of shit every day. This is no holiday issue. This is Not a Photograph. This is not a Hallmark card or a passing fancy. This particular situation is about to happen again SOON and the time to act on it specifically is NOW but I talk about this kind of thing and work on these issues all the time, not just when its "in the news". If you can't get behind helping this kind of situation, fine, but what do you gain by slamming those of us who do and calling us sensationalist? Or are you just trying to incite yet another petty little spat on the internet? If you can't help, don't get in the way.

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    brianlux said:

    The reason I find it hard to get behind these "stop this, it's wrong" issues are because it's been a year since the last season. Now that it's a new season and is in the news you want to stand against it. If it wasn't a recent headline, chances are you probably wouldn't have put two thoughts into it. Glad to see sensationalism doesn't work.

    Are you kidding? I don't know about you or anyone else (and it's not my responsibility to keep track of who does) but I think about this kind of shit every day. This is no holiday issue. This is Not a Photograph. This is not a Hallmark card or a passing fancy. This particular situation is about to happen again SOON and the time to act on it specifically is NOW but I talk about this kind of thing and work on these issues all the time, not just when its "in the news". If you can't get behind helping this kind of situation, fine, but what do you gain by slamming those of us who do and calling us sensationalist? Or are you just trying to incite yet another petty little spat on the internet? If you can't help, don't get in the way.

    Well said, Brian.

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    We attended the dolphin show at the National Aquarium last year. I had no idea there was any connection.

    "The captive dolphin entertainment industry makes a lot of money from dolphin suffering and death. The way to shut them down is to take the profit out of their operations. By ending the demand for their shows, we can sink them economically."

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    JimmyV said:

    We attended the dolphin show at the National Aquarium last year. I had no idea there was any connection.

    "The captive dolphin entertainment industry makes a lot of money from dolphin suffering and death. The way to shut them down is to take the profit out of their operations. By ending the demand for their shows, we can sink them economically."

    Thanks for pointing this out, Jimmy! It's a little known fact.

    The easiest way to help, besides supporting Sea Shepherds, is to send a letter or post card to Prime Minister Shinzo-Abe asking Japan to stop the slaughter of dolphins, porpoises and whales. Postage on a standard sized post cards is $1.15. Thanks!

    Prime Minister Shinzo- Abe
    Cabinet Office, Government of Japan
    1-6-1 Nagata-cho
    Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo. 100-8914 JAPAN
    +81-3-5253-2111

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    JimmyV said:

    We attended the dolphin show at the National Aquarium last year. I had no idea there was any connection.

    "The captive dolphin entertainment industry makes a lot of money from dolphin suffering and death. The way to shut them down is to take the profit out of their operations. By ending the demand for their shows, we can sink them economically."

    There are always commercials running here for the Aquarium of the Pacific - geared toward children and families. Now I'm wondering if this place is part of that.

    This morning I caught some footage on the news of an Australian couple swimming with humpback whales. It was just amazing (can you imagine being in that position?!), this mix of playfulness and gentleness.

    The killing of these creatures is a constant, aside from the "season" in this particular area. If it spurs people to think and act, it can't be a negative (at least to me).

    Now I've got a hankering for gentle Jack.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhGSY2sxwTU&list=RDuhGSY2sxwTU#t=0
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    ^^^ Great pick, Hedonist! Jack Irons is awesome. I even like his quirky singing voice. :-D
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    The latest update news from Sea Shepherds is not good:


    Strong winds and currents kept the hunters from killing the pod of 20-25 pilot
    whales we reported to you yesterday they had trapped in the cove. The whales were
    forced to spend a second night without food or shelter. Now, the weather has cleared
    and the slaughter of these whales is happening today! We are outraged!!

    Taiji is ground zero for the international trade in dolphins! The driving financial
    force behind cruel slaughters, like what we are facing right now in Taiji, is the
    captive marine park industry — specifically the parks that have dolphin shows and
    "swim with dolphin" programs.

    From the pod being held now, two juveniles were taken from their family and put in
    holding pins. These whales will be forced to live a life in captivity and could be
    the "stars" of an upcoming show somewhere in the world. Tell your friends — Do not
    buy a ticket to a dolphin show!

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  • Not trying to start a spat, or anything like that. Yes, absolutely yes I feel like anytime an issue that isn't brought up all year until the "hunting" season starts and now you want to be outspoken against it; I call that sensationalism. Anyone can can say I disagree and want a change and that I think about it all year long. But to me it's getting tiresome, off all these issues that "we all so strongly believe in" are a flash in the pan. They really aren't issues, they are the flavor of the month. That's my view on it. I was involved with in a very heated debate on this forum a while ago about rhinos in Africa. So many passionate people about the rhinos (which was all was from one news article) and that was it. No one here posted or followed up on the story. I'm just saying put a real passion into a cause and stick with that cause, don't jump cause to cause based on headlines.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Even though I've never met brian and from reading brian's post over the years I think it's safe to say if he brings up an issue, then he cares deeply about the cause.

    I also think it's message board for people to post their opinion and leave it at that, some people will post an opinion and never comment again, some subjects are pointless to even debate.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    Not trying to start a spat, or anything like that. Yes, absolutely yes I feel like anytime an issue that isn't brought up all year until the "hunting" season starts and now you want to be outspoken against it; I call that sensationalism. Anyone can can say I disagree and want a change and that I think about it all year long. But to me it's getting tiresome, off all these issues that "we all so strongly believe in" are a flash in the pan. They really aren't issues, they are the flavor of the month. That's my view on it. I was involved with in a very heated debate on this forum a while ago about rhinos in Africa. So many passionate people about the rhinos (which was all was from one news article) and that was it. No one here posted or followed up on the story. I'm just saying put a real passion into a cause and stick with that cause, don't jump cause to cause based on headlines.

    Get what your saying and understand your frustration. The ice bucket challenge seemed the same way. People got behind it when it was fashionable.

    There are though people that are dedicated to save these dolphins all year and this slaughter happens this time of year so good time to promote.

    Glad Brian created this thread as does seem cruel way to harvest. And dolphins and whales are higher on intelligence versus cows and they are wild and this harvest could impact ecosystem.

    The Japanese do have a point that bit hypocritical as we slaughter calves and pigs?

    Love the whale song. Was a sleeper for me.

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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    it is not a, 'what's the latest terrible bullshit humans are doing to the environment & wildlife that is in the news' that gets many wound up as many are wound up about this kind of shit everyday. brian & myself disagree on some issues & we also agree on things like environmental issues. yeah it is not a fad

    japan sucks big time for doing this. to bad they can't get beat w/ brass knuckles or something. i know, stick rhino horns up their asses (still attached to rhinos of course). sick fucks.
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  • Not trying to start a spat, or anything like that. Yes, absolutely yes I feel like anytime an issue that isn't brought up all year until the "hunting" season starts and now you want to be outspoken against it; I call that sensationalism. Anyone can can say I disagree and want a change and that I think about it all year long. But to me it's getting tiresome, off all these issues that "we all so strongly believe in" are a flash in the pan. They really aren't issues, they are the flavor of the month. That's my view on it. I was involved with in a very heated debate on this forum a while ago about rhinos in Africa. So many passionate people about the rhinos (which was all was from one news article) and that was it. No one here posted or followed up on the story. I'm just saying put a real passion into a cause and stick with that cause, don't jump cause to cause based on headlines.

    I'm not trying to shit on you, Matts- you're not a bad guy- but in this case, you were unfairly flippant with Brian. Just because Brian doesn't leave his bookstore to go protest on the shores of the cove doesn't mean he can't express his dismay.

    At a minimum, awareness for the continued practice may have been sustained or initiated for some. Reading through some of the follow-up comments leads me to believe that there are several on here that did not understand that when they support a live dolphin show, they support the practice Brian speaks against. This alone tells me the post was worthwhile. People need to stop going to SeaWorld and the like.

    Further... I think such incidents are 'flavours of the month' because there are so many of them. Brutal stories have a way of bubbling to the top only to make their way back into the mix as they are supplanted by something else. Nobody has forgotten about the rhinos and nobody has forgotten about ALS.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042

    Not trying to start a spat, or anything like that. Yes, absolutely yes I feel like anytime an issue that isn't brought up all year until the "hunting" season starts and now you want to be outspoken against it; I call that sensationalism. Anyone can can say I disagree and want a change and that I think about it all year long. But to me it's getting tiresome, off all these issues that "we all so strongly believe in" are a flash in the pan. They really aren't issues, they are the flavor of the month. That's my view on it. I was involved with in a very heated debate on this forum a while ago about rhinos in Africa. So many passionate people about the rhinos (which was all was from one news article) and that was it. No one here posted or followed up on the story. I'm just saying put a real passion into a cause and stick with that cause, don't jump cause to cause based on headlines.

    Two thoughts here matts:

    1) If I created threads for every environmental issue I read about or am involved in on a regular basis (and I am involved thus so don't judge me wrongly), almost everybody here would be screaming bloody murder at me for flooding AMT with nearly endless threads about industrial degradation of environment, the destruction of our landbases, and the multitude of things we all do to increase to wholesale decimation of life on this planet they would be right for doing so because AMT is about all kinds of current and relevant events. I post threads on issues that seem to me to be the most critical and urgent. I'm not sure what your point is in making critically inaccurate posts about my activism and to write it off as "sensationalism" is very close to bating behavior.

    2) If you don't agree that an issue I post about is critical and urgent you can always ignore it. If you find environmental issues "tiresome", focus on social issues or go play racquet ball or something. If you don't want to be involved in efforts to make changes for the good for either social or environmental issues that's your choice as well but don't disparage those of us who do care and who spend much of our time, effort and money doing so. Otherwise you're just trolling with comments like "tiresome" or "flavor of the month".


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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    The issue this branched off to could be an interesting topic in itself - and while I too (based on posts read) think matts is quite alright, I think he's also fairly off-base on this.

    Sometimes things hit us personally or emotionally - whether this, or suicide, or Parkinson's, or animal abuse, cancer, ALS, depression, violence, poaching, DUIs, on and fucking ON. Life brings us this and more. It's easy to be angry, to doubt the honesty of others, but...one - go by the character of the person being addressed, if possible (in this case, more than possible)...and two - if something meaningful can come from putting the word out - and I'm not talking about fluffing our feathers and patting our own back - I just can't see anything negative about this aside from the views toward the means (and perceived use of timing).
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    hedonist said:

    The issue this branched off to could be an interesting topic in itself - and while I too (based on posts read) think matts is quite alright, I think he's also fairly off-base on this.

    Sometimes things hit us personally or emotionally - whether this, or suicide, or Parkinson's, or animal abuse, cancer, ALS, depression, violence, poaching, DUIs, on and fucking ON. Life brings us this and more. It's easy to be angry, to doubt the honesty of others, but...one - go by the character of the person being addressed, if possible (in this case, more than possible)...and two - if something meaningful can come from putting the word out - and I'm not talking about fluffing our feathers and patting our own back - I just can't see anything negative about this aside from the views toward the means (and perceived use of timing).

    Thanks Hedonist.

    I would hope this goes without saying but just in case, I'll say it anyway: I never put this kind of thing out there for sensationalism. Sensationalism is entertainment and when it comes to environmental and social issues, I'm not interested in entertainment- I'm interested in reality.

    I also don't put this stuff out there for my ego or a pat on the back. Actually when it comes to activism, a lot of the time I suck. I'm fairly good at analyzing and studying and learning and thinking critically but I totally suck at extemporaneous articulation and I often fail in debate. At times I let my emotions get in the way and sometimes I'm overly sensitive or easily offended but I try to be aware of my short coming and I give it my best shot and hope a few strands of what I put out there are useful and stick to the wall. If someone isn't interested in the topic or my approach I invite them to do better and I hope I can learn from that. But being dismissed outright is a waste of everyone's time so I'll try better to ignore that sort of thing and just stick with the topic.



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  • Why is it a bad thing that somebody disagrees with the OP? I didn't think anyone was trolling. I'm not defending anyone, but matts gave an opinion and he got torched for it.

    Brian, honest question from one that does not see eye to eye with you on some environmental issues: I understand and reslect your deep passion for the environment. How do you keep your sanity when you read stories like this? You asked in another thread a while back if this was all just a waste of time. Do you feel that what you do is all for naught?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042

    Why is it a bad thing that somebody disagrees with the OP? I didn't think anyone was trolling. I'm not defending anyone, but matts gave an opinion and he got torched for it.

    Brian, honest question from one that does not see eye to eye with you on some environmental issues: I understand and reslect your deep passion for the environment. How do you keep your sanity when you read stories like this? You asked in another thread a while back if this was all just a waste of time. Do you feel that what you do is all for naught?

    It's a good question Last-13-Exit.

    In one post I said,

    I'm not sure what your point is in making critically inaccurate posts about my activism and to write it off as "sensationalism" is very close to bating behavior.

    I stand by that statement. Anyone here who has followed my posts regarding environmental issues knows I'm not into sensationalism or choosing a "flavor of the month" issue to bring up. Most of you know that environmental concerns are a regular part of my life. Anyone who does not know that about be but makes such a claim is making a false assumption.

    In another post I said,

    If you don't want to be involved in efforts to make changes for the good for either social or environmental issues that's your choice as well but don't disparage those of us who do care and who spend much of our time, effort and money doing so. Otherwise you're just trolling with comments like "tiresome" or "flavor of the month".

    I will apologize for making it sound as though I was accusing someone of trolling. I should have stuck with the word "bating" for the same reason as above.

    If someone were to say, "I don't agree that killing sea mammals is a bad thing. I think the Japanese have a right to continue that practice because it has been a part of their culture for centuries", I would strongly disagree with them as a part of a civil discussion and debate but when someone personalizes the issue by accusing me of bringing up an issue such as this merely for the purpose of "sensationalism" or a "flavor of the month" that, to my way of thinking at least, is bating.

    matts said this:

    Now that it's a new season and is in the news you want to stand against it. If it wasn't a recent headline, chances are you probably wouldn't have put two thoughts into it. Glad to see sensationalism doesn't work.

    That, to me, is clearly bating, not discussing an issue.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    Last Exit, you also asked: "How do you keep your sanity when you read stories like this? You asked in another thread a while back if this was all just a waste of time. Do you feel that what you do is all for naught?"

    I do get a bit depressed from time to time over these issues and sometimes it does feel like I'm beating my head against a wall but I keep my sanity by remember Vaclav Havel's statement that hope is not the conviction that things will turn out well but rather that hope is the conviction to do what makes sense no matter how things turn out. It also helps to remember that nature bats last.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    By the way, all, here's some more interesting tidbits of information about the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. This organization has a fairly long history of interrupting and blockading the illegal and immoral slaughter of sea mammals- whales, porpoises, dolphins as well as penguins. These actions have included such measures as ramming or even sinking other ships- but never causing injury or death to any humans.

    But here's the interesting part- this organization has been more widely supported and funded that some would suppose. For example, in 2010 Sea Shepherds outfitted a ship to use to stop Japanese whaling. That ship was funded by $5,000,000 provided by Bob Barker. YES!, that Bob Barker as in "The Price is Right" Bob Barker and the ship was christened MY Bob Barker.

    In 2011 another one of their ships was renamed the MV Brigitte Bardot in appreciation of the support she has given the organization for many years.

    Author Cleveland Amory who wrote books like The Cat and the Curmudgeon was a huge help in getting this organization off the ground and putting up money to keep founder Paul Watson out of Canadian prisons.

    Another wonderful writer, Farley Mowat who passed away just this May, was a major supporter of Sea Shepherds who's flagship had his name on it, The Farley Mowat. That ship was seized by the Canadian government in 2008. At that time, Paul Watson stated,

    "I have no intention of recognizing the validity of any sale ordered by the Canadian government," said Captain Paul Watson. "Whoever buys the ship should be aware that we retain the registry and the original Bill of Sale and we will take back what is ours at the first opportunity. You don't steal a ship from a pirate without repercussions."

    Other celebrities who have supported Sea Shepherd include Richard Dean Anderson, Pierce Brosnan, Sean Penn, Christian Bale, Rutger Hauer, Linda Blair, James Cromwell and Martin Sheen.

    The point I'm making isn't that anyone should support this organization because someone famous has done so. The real heroes of this organization are the many, many volunteers who put their well being, their freedom, and their lives on the line to stop the needless and greedy slaughter of sea mammals. The point is, you don't have to be a hard corps iconoclastic monkeywrenching curmudgeon in order to support these efforts.
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