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http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/30/va.hospital.hiv/index.html

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Has nothing to do with government run. Private hospitals fuck up all the time. It's a tough business.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    It's a damn shame that VA hospitals are run so poorly they are for the Vets that serve this nation they should be at the top of excellent care ....
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Yes it is.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    So yeah i do blame the gov on this vets coming home from serving in wars should come home to nothing but the best of care but they don't that has to be so upsetting to all involved ....
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  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    Yet they run the internet well don't they because at the end of the day you don't really know whom your talking to, do you?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,604
    ok, so the instruments went into the "cleaning machines" (autoclaves I'm sure) so I dont know what effect IF ANY washing BEFORE the hit the "cleaning machines" would have?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Instruments are typically hit with a protein degrading spray as they are sent out of the procedure room, then machine washed, then autoclaved. Dental instruments are often very delicate and wear out quickly with the impact of the machine washing. I know that some dental surgeons have some instruments (indeed, the more delicate ones) that they handle the sterilization on their own but I don't know the procedure they use, or who oversees. The risk to these Veterans is probably very low as most hospital protocols are designed with redundancy, overkill if you will. If they did thorough hand washing all will probably be OK, but they have protocols for a reason and this is a major mistake.
    Also the perception that all VA hospitals suck isn't accurate, my wife did a residency at an amazing one in Arizona. Not that you guys think that, just I know some do.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,286
    That article is four years old. I'm sure there have been tons of similar things in for profit hospitals since then.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Wow, I didn't even check the date, lol
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,604
    yeah. 2010. would be interested in a follow up to see how many actually fell ill from this lapse in protocol.

    Thanks for keeping us informed Unsung on the latest failings of government.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    We hear a lot about how hospitals screw up but I wonder what accurate statistics would tell us? Are we better off not going to hospitals? What percentage of people who go to hospitals end up worse off rather than better? I'm not defending hospitals necessarily- what do I know about hospitals- just trying to instigate a little critical thinking.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    brianlux i can attest that if i didn't get to the hospital on the day of my heart attack i'd be dead that's as plain as i can put it ....
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    The title of this thread is somewhat ridiculous.
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