Gov. Rick Perry of Texas Is Indicted on Charge of Abuse of Power

brianlux

Imagine that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us/gov-rick-perry-of-texas-is-indicted-over-veto-of-funds-for-das-office.html?_r=0

bootlegger10

People choose not to give money to groups or companies all the time because they don't like management. The prosecutor was caught drunk driving and Perry believed she was not qualified to manage that initiative. Why give Perry veto authority at all if he is punished for using it? I would think mistrust of management is a helluva good reason to veto funding, just like I would stop supporting a charity where I no longer trusted their management. I would have no problem say to a charity, "find a new leader and I will start sending money again."

mickeyrat

bootlegger10 said:

People choose not to give money to groups or companies all the time because they don't like management. The prosecutor was caught drunk driving and Perry believed she was not qualified to manage that initiative. Why give Perry veto authority at all if he is punished for using it? I would think mistrust of management is a helluva good reason to veto funding, just like I would stop supporting a charity where I no longer trusted their management. I would have no problem say to a charity, "find a new leader and I will start sending money again."

problem here is she was an elected official. The prosecutor was found in a parked car in a parking lot with an open container. Different than being pulled over. If ,as Perry claimed, that the public had lost confidence, then they had an opportunity to recall her and install someone else.

unsung

I don't like Perry, but he was right here.

brianlux

What kind of amazes me about this sort of thing is that time and again politicians get themselves into situations where they sabotage their own prospects of getting anywhere. I may not have the right kind of smarts to do well in politics but I'm smart enough to know enough dirt could be dug up to prevent me from running for an office. Regards of a politician's position, I can't see voting for someone who isn't smart enough to keep their record clean. Not that I would have ever voted for Perry, of course, LOL.

bootlegger10

mickeyrat said:

bootlegger10 said:

People choose not to give money to groups or companies all the time because they don't like management. The prosecutor was caught drunk driving and Perry believed she was not qualified to manage that initiative. Why give Perry veto authority at all if he is punished for using it? I would think mistrust of management is a helluva good reason to veto funding, just like I would stop supporting a charity where I no longer trusted their management. I would have no problem say to a charity, "find a new leader and I will start sending money again."

problem here is she was an elected official. The prosecutor was found in a parked car in a parking lot with an open container. Different than being pulled over. If ,as Perry claimed, that the public had lost confidence, then they had an opportunity to recall her and install someone else.

I think governors have to make choices all the time about where to send money. If they know a politician is corrupt or unfit, why would they send money under the control of that person? That wouldn't serve the public interest. Lets face it, some parts of states elect corrupt politicians year after year and at some point you should stop sending money to those areas. I have no problem with someone publicly declaring to a town clean up your act and we'll send support.

mickeyrat

bootlegger10 said:

mickeyrat said:

bootlegger10 said:

People choose not to give money to groups or companies all the time because they don't like management. The prosecutor was caught drunk driving and Perry believed she was not qualified to manage that initiative. Why give Perry veto authority at all if he is punished for using it? I would think mistrust of management is a helluva good reason to veto funding, just like I would stop supporting a charity where I no longer trusted their management. I would have no problem say to a charity, "find a new leader and I will start sending money again."

problem here is she was an elected official. The prosecutor was found in a parked car in a parking lot with an open container. Different than being pulled over. If ,as Perry claimed, that the public had lost confidence, then they had an opportunity to recall her and install someone else.

I think governors have to make choices all the time about where to send money. If they know a politician is corrupt or unfit, why would they send money under the control of that person? That wouldn't serve the public interest. Lets face it, some parts of states elect corrupt politicians year after year and at some point you should stop sending money to those areas. I have no problem with someone publicly declaring to a town clean up your act and we'll send support.

drunk on the job? yeah I could see it. Off time, bad personal judgement , of course. Need to resign? Whole lotta people would need to give up public office.

He eventually did, but that freshman congressman from florida last year getting popped for coke. HE wasnt going to resign....

mickeyrat

mickeyrat said:

bootlegger10 said:

mickeyrat said:

bootlegger10 said:

People choose not to give money to groups or companies all the time because they don't like management. The prosecutor was caught drunk driving and Perry believed she was not qualified to manage that initiative. Why give Perry veto authority at all if he is punished for using it? I would think mistrust of management is a helluva good reason to veto funding, just like I would stop supporting a charity where I no longer trusted their management. I would have no problem say to a charity, "find a new leader and I will start sending money again."

problem here is she was an elected official. The prosecutor was found in a parked car in a parking lot with an open container. Different than being pulled over. If ,as Perry claimed, that the public had lost confidence, then they had an opportunity to recall her and install someone else.

I think governors have to make choices all the time about where to send money. If they know a politician is corrupt or unfit, why would they send money under the control of that person? That wouldn't serve the public interest. Lets face it, some parts of states elect corrupt politicians year after year and at some point you should stop sending money to those areas. I have no problem with someone publicly declaring to a town clean up your act and we'll send support.

drunk on the job? yeah I could see it. Off time, bad personal judgement , of course. Need to resign? Whole lotta people would need to give up public office.

He eventually did, but that freshman congressman from florida last year getting popped for coke. HE wasnt going to resign....

in part what he is saying is , he is ok with corruption etc.....

rr165892

unsung said:

I don't like Perry, but he was right here.

This about sums it up

mickeyrat

from the article
According to the state comptroller’s website, the governor’s office has paid his lawyer, Mr. Botsford, nearly $80,000 since June. Legal experts said that other state officials who have been accused of crimes relating to their duties have had to pay for their own defense, and this was one of the first times Texas taxpayers were paying the bill.

could this be the over riding reason for this? DUI being the "reason" he could state publically?


She plays a powerful role in Austin in overseeing the Public Integrity Unit. At the time of Mr. Perry’s veto last year, prosecutors in the unit had been investigating a state agency called the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas. The agency — one of Mr. Perry’s signature initiatives — came under scrutiny by state lawmakers after accusations of mismanagement and corruption; a former official there was indicted last year for his handling of an $11 million grant.

Mr. Perry’s critics accused him of using Ms. Lehmberg’s arrest to try to dismantle the public corruption squad, to thwart the investigation into the cancer-research agency and to seize an opportunity to take down a prominent Democrat. The public corruption unit has been scaled down, but it continues its work largely using county financing.

mickeyrat

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/us/politics/indictment-of-perry-raises-debate-over-which-party-is-abusing-power.html?contentCollection=us&action=click&module=NextInCollection&region=Footer&pgtype=article

mickeyrat

little blurb taken from the above article I linked...

Mr. Perry has repeatedly used the same mantra: “I think America is a place that believes in second chances.”

callen

See the Fox machine is efficient as ever.

Perry used funds to coerce publicly elected official to resign. Not legal. And the public official just so happens to be doing investigation of misappropriation of funds by Republicans.

The grand jury knew it would take some serious backlash so there are grounds for prosecution. Versus the talking points of his high paid lawyers and Fox News created for the herd.

usamamasan1

brianlux said:

Imagine that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us/gov-rick-perry-of-texas-is-indicted-over-veto-of-funds-for-das-office.html?_r=0

Rick Perry opens door to convention in comeback in GOP presidential race

Rick Perry, who has twice dropped out of races for the Republican presidential nomination, isn’t ruling out another shot at the White House.

The former Texas governor told CNN that he wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a brokered convention for the Republican nomination this year – and hinted if that happened he might be ready to give it another go.

CNN anchor Erin Burnett asked Perry Thursday about a recent tweet from conservative blogger and radio host Erick Erickson, who said he would support a third party run by Perry. He then retweeted calls for Perry to consider jumping back in the race.

On Wednesday, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals cleared Perry of all criminal charges against him related to allegations he misused his power while in office. Burnett asked Perry if the news would lead him back into the race.

Perry said if there’s a "brokered" convention then it would be “a whole new ballgame for everyone.”

Without a clear consolidation of the field, many have floated the possibility of Republicans going to Cleveland this summer without a presumptive nominee, meaning no candidate received the needed number of pledged delegates. In that case, any person may be nominated, and voted for, on the nomination ballot.

The former Texas governor was a candidate for the Republican nomination in 2012, suspending his campaign after finishing New Hampshire with 1 percent of the vote. His campaign was plagued with missteps, often misspeaking in interviews and question and answer sessions, culminating in his infamous “oops” moment when he forgot the government agencies he proposed to cut.

Perry’s 2016 presidential campaign was supposed to be his self-described “second chance.” However, Perry never broke through as a top-tier candidate and was never invited to participate on the main debate stage. After minimal fundraising and being forced to stop paying campaign staff in late August, Perry suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination.

In August 2014, Perry was indicted by a grand jury for abuse of power. He threatened to defund a statewide Public Integrity Unit as a way to force the resignation ofTravis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg, a Democrat who had pleaded guilty to driving while intoxicated. The indictment added to the multitude of distractions for Perry’s presidential campaign.

As the race draws closer to the Texas primary, Perry is set to be more of a visible figure in the race. He endorsed Cruz in late January and continues to offer commentary on the race.

The next contest for the Republican nomination is the coveted Super Tuesday on March 1 with 595 delegates up for grabs from 12 states. Super Tuesday delegates account for roughly one quarter of the total number of delegates needed to clinch the Republican nomination.

usamamasan1

usamamasan1

second and final felony charge against Rick Perry dismissed.

But you already knew this...

callen

He's a POS.

brianlux