Pearl Jam Bellingham 5/10/2000 Vault Show #4 Vinyl PreSale. CD/Digital on sale now! Free Digital D!

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    mrk2 said:

    Or maybe the show was remixed (or at least remastered). You have the source multitracks in 16/44.1, but any post-processing, mixing and mastering can be done in higher bit rates and benefit from it.There's a long discussion of similar cases at :
    http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-theory-regarding-24bit-44-1khz-hdtracks-releases-of-albums-recorded-on-16bit-dat.365308/

    It could be that the show was not originally mixed and mastered at all back in 2000. They pulled out the multitracks and mixed and mastered those now. Hard to say for sure. Anyway, just got my vinyl and actually opened it this time :D Gonna take it for a spin today.

    Hey! Good stuff MrK! I'm still learning a lot about the science of sound and this was a great article! Thanks!
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  • Mitch24
    Mitch24 Newfoundland Posts: 27
    Ahhh, membership renewal. Free mp3 bootleg download. Think I know what ill be using it on! Seeing as I live in Canada and wont see this vinyl for another good couple months!
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,667
    edited December 2014
    mrk2 said:

    Or maybe the show was remixed (or at least remastered). You have the source multitracks in 16/44.1, but any post-processing, mixing and mastering can be done in higher bit rates and benefit from it.There's a long discussion of similar cases at :
    http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-theory-regarding-24bit-44-1khz-hdtracks-releases-of-albums-recorded-on-16bit-dat.365308/

    It could be that the show was not originally mixed and mastered at all back in 2000. They pulled out the multitracks and mixed and mastered those now. Hard to say for sure. Anyway, just got my vinyl and actually opened it this time :D Gonna take it for a spin today.

    Thanks for the link! Interesting theory. It would be nice if 10C or Nugs gave information about how these recordings were created so that we could make informed decisions about what we buy. I guess one way to check would be to look at a spectogram of the HD files, to see if any frequencies go above 22 kHz. Without such information, I'm inclined to just stick with regular FLAC.

    I've heard that the Pono store is trying to be the anti-HD Tracks, giving more information about recordings and their resolutions. We shall see.

    Edit: Oops, I forgot about this thread. I guess it explains the process for the most recent boots, so maybe the same techniques were used on this boot:

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/208463/flac-hd-files-not-really-hd
    Post edited by darthvedder on
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
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  • lotsalemon
    lotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,739

    yes!!!!!! can't wait to listen to this tonight :D
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  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525

    How does the LP sound compared to Vault 3?

    I think the vinyl of Vault 3 sounded better than Vault 4. Both pressing and performance wise.
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  • Out of My Mind and Time
    edited December 2014
    got mailed confirmation in US today

    ok, I fucked up. I could of sworn I got an email about this shipping but I think I mistook it for the MLB shipping. My bad if I gave hope. Can't wait to get the email that is for real. Looking forward to spinning new vinyl. Have not listen to the boot yet.

    :!!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited December 2014
    Shipping notifications not going out yet might be a good sign. It could mean they are repacking them for us to keep them safe from USPS's destructive forces!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited December 2014
    PJ_Soul wrote: »
    Shipping notifications not going out yet might be a good sign. It could mean they are repacking them for us to keep them safe from USPS's destructive forces!

    Ha! Literally 5 seconds after I posted that I got the email:

    "An update to all Vault #4 vinyl purchasers:

    We have received our stock of Vault #4 Vinyl today from Europe. Due to the inadequate packaging provided by the manufacturer, we will need to repackage the vinyl before shipping. We had hoped to have these out and arriving by the end of 2014 in the US. Due to the repackaging, holidays, etc, we are now on track for shipping early Jan 2015.
    We apologize for any inconvenience.


    Happy Holidays!

    Santos L. Halper


    10c"


    Yay, thanks 10C!!!! I'd much rather wait a bit longer than have a busted up album! :)
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  • javis el errante
    javis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    I checked my vinyl pre-order in order history and there's no download link, did I miss it? where can I find it? I guess I have to read the whole thread again...
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  • Sirens4
    Sirens4 Posts: 622
    Livedownloads sent out an email link.... Check your junk email may be in there.... Just checked and my vinyl says shipped!!!
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    Shipping confirmation emails have already been shipping out. Sweet!
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    I got one today from UPS. assumed it was from 10club.
    said mine would arrive Thursday the 15th

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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    Wish there was tracking numbers for us in Canada to follow these.

    For those who received one already in the USA, how was the packaging? Same as Vault 3?
  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    demetrios wrote: »
    Wish there was tracking numbers for us in Canada to follow these.

    For those who received one already in the USA, how was the packaging? Same as Vault 3?

    I don't think anyone in the US has received one yet D...
    I'm not seeing any movement in the tracking to suggest that these have even been shipped out yet.
    They started printing the labels and sending our tracking info on Thursday of last week,
    but according to the UPS Quantum View tracking these still haven't left the10 Club warehouse.
    This is the message I'm seeing when looking for a shipping update:
    A UPS shipping label has been created.
    Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status...
    including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated.



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    '03: Columbus: Germain
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    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    derbydave wrote: »
    demetrios wrote: »
    Wish there was tracking numbers for us in Canada to follow these.

    For those who received one already in the USA, how was the packaging? Same as Vault 3?

    I don't think anyone in the US has received one yet D...
    I'm not seeing any movement in the tracking to suggest that these have even been shipped out yet.
    They started printing the labels and sending our tracking info on Thursday of last week,
    but according to the UPS Quantum View tracking these still haven't left the10 Club warehouse.
    This is the message I'm seeing when looking for a shipping update:
    A UPS shipping label has been created.
    Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status...
    including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated.



    Gotcha. :)
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    derbydave wrote: »
    demetrios wrote: »
    Wish there was tracking numbers for us in Canada to follow these.

    For those who received one already in the USA, how was the packaging? Same as Vault 3?

    I don't think anyone in the US has received one yet D...
    I'm not seeing any movement in the tracking to suggest that these have even been shipped out yet.
    They started printing the labels and sending our tracking info on Thursday of last week,
    but according to the UPS Quantum View tracking these still haven't left the10 Club warehouse.
    This is the message I'm seeing when looking for a shipping update:
    A UPS shipping label has been created.
    Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status...
    including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated.



    Some have started to move, mine finally left the warehouse last night. A few others noted theirs left on Friday, so yours should be out any day.
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  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    derbydave wrote: »
    demetrios wrote: »
    Wish there was tracking numbers for us in Canada to follow these.

    For those who received one already in the USA, how was the packaging? Same as Vault 3?

    I don't think anyone in the US has received one yet D...
    I'm not seeing any movement in the tracking to suggest that these have even been shipped out yet.
    They started printing the labels and sending our tracking info on Thursday of last week,
    but according to the UPS Quantum View tracking these still haven't left the10 Club warehouse.
    This is the message I'm seeing when looking for a shipping update:
    A UPS shipping label has been created.
    Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status...
    including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated.



    Some have started to move, mine finally left the warehouse last night. A few others noted theirs left on Friday, so yours should be out any day.

    Good to hear!!!
    I've been checking my tracking info several times a day,
    hoping to see it finally leave the warehouse.
    Thanks for the update. :-bd
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    '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
    '00: Columbus: Polaris
    '03: Columbus: Germain
    '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
    '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
    '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
    '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
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