umm, what? Still a minor under the law, and without attorney at least present or given time for injunction? I think there will be a new prosecutor before too long. And what fucking judge allows this?
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One...pretty sad sign of the times that a 15-yr-old girl (or 17-yr-old boy, for that matter) is doing this kind of shit.
Two...would they demand similar "evidence" were the ages of the two switched?
Three...nice to see in the update to the link that this is no longer being pursued.
Four...all this hoopla over two dumb horny kids and meantime, the Pillowcase Rapist has been released out here - yet again - after being deemed no longer a threat. This fucker raped every time he was released. But yes, it was actually considered that injecting a kid to induce erection and then compare dick pics was a good idea.
1. this case should never have been a case nevermind a felony. 2. didn't the Supreme Court just pass a law saying that police could not search your phone? Or had the girl's mother brought this before them and therefore they had probable cause? Either way it leads to 3. Teen ager's and social media are a really scary combination. As the mother of a 16 year old boy, i have monitored FB, Instagram, etc to the best of my ability - but I cannot nor should i read all of his texts and there is snapchat and other sites that i can't keep up with - including just plain sending a picture. Teens are stupid, they do not think of anything past the moment and these things are on the internet forever - I have spoken with my son, warned him about stuff like this - but he ran away to his father's a year ago yesterday even though the 'man' has no parental rights - i won't go into it, this year has sucked. So I have no idea if he is taking pictures of his dick and sending them to girls. He'll be 17 this month and is going to be a junior - so a 15 year old could be a sophomore. He told me about a soon to be 15 year old he was talking to and all i could think of was the trouble he could get into - which is sad. I've actually told him not to take pictures of his dick, even if he's at a party and guys are just messing around or he thinks it's deleted, because all you need is one person to decide to post it and there it is , forever. 4. I'm glad that this was dismissed - i missed that part of the article. Instead of trying to prosecute the boy, the mother should have a talk with her daughter and monitor her internet activity as much as she can. The mother took the easy way out and blamed the boy; when they were both doing something they shouldn't. The internet has made intimacy far too casual and they don't realize the ramifications. 5. Those police officers who abused this child and threatened to shoot him up so they could see his erect penis should be penalized, suspended, fired - whatever is appropriate with their involvement. if police had threatened my under age son (or 18 year old for that matter - it's just one year) I would have been on the warpath. And it's not always the boys who are the aggressors - it's mutual sometimes. But there are girls that are far more mature and aggressive than boys their own age or within a couple years. Believe me, i speak from experience. But since he was the boy, no one really was concerned - except me.
This sexting shit really, really is a mother's worst nightmare.
I'm going to split this into two parts... facts and my opinion; Facts: The police are obligated to investigate reports of crimes. In this case, a report by the mother of a 15 year old girl. Police can search a person's phone with a bench issued warrant... the same way a bench issued warrant allows the police to confiscate and search your home computer. Teenagers like to fuck. If they aren't fucking... they are thinking about fucking. The two teenagers did pass pictures of them selves to each other. One 'Talk' with your kids about sex is not enough. The Mother of the girl really needed to talk to her daughter about sex when the girl was 13. And she needed to continually talk to the daughter about sex. The Parental Guardian (Aunt) of the boy needed to warn her nephew about the Internet and Anthony Weiner and Brett Farve. Adults seem to forget what it was like to be 15 and 17. Things regarding teenagers and sex are the same today... as they were when you were 15 and 17... back in the 1980s. If you have a 15 or 17 year old son or daughter who has a girlfriend or boyfriend and you don't think they are fucking... you are probably wrong. This happened in Virginia, people. Virginia. ... My opinions: The mother didn't have to call the cops. She should have, at the very least, suspected that her daughter was in a sexual relationship. Having a '17 year old Boyfriend' is a huge fucking clue. Every guy who was ever 17 will agree... we were fucking horny when we were teenagers and all we thought about was fucking. Pretty much fucking anyone that would let us. We weren't rapists... we were beggers. Wewere also too stupid to know how to talk to girls. but, that didn't stop us from thinking about fucking most of our waking hours. I don't know if the kid admitted to or denied that the dick posted to his girlfriend's phone, from his phone was actually, his dick. I suspect defense lawyer bullshit is somehow involved and and the district attorney's office decided to play his cards to force a plea and avoid a court case. Defense lawyer make a lot more money in courtrooms than they do in confrence rooms with district attorneys. My guess is that the D.A.'s office is pursuing the harshest charges because the defense turned down a lesser plea. it is normal for the D.A.'s office to threaten to charge the harshes charges in order to bargain down to a lesser plea. Lastly, the kid should have just admitted it was his dick in the picture and it was only meant for his girlfriend and not part of a worldwide NAMLA network of explicit dick pics. He would have probably gotten a lesser misdemeanor charge and probably sentenced to probation and community service and having the charges expunged after 2 year, as long as it did not happen again. ... Added: This is all part of the hysteria that is so prevalent in our society these days. This was all avoidable had the kids been educated of the pitfalls and consequences entangled with sex and technology and social networks. The same things used to happen when i was 15 and 17. The difference was, the best technology we could use was a Polaroid picture.
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Thank you for the male perspective on how much teen age boys think about fucking. I remember being a teen ager in the 80's and i remember that most every boyfriend I had would have gladly had sex, had I said okey dokey. Being the mother of a teen-age boy sucks. He's your kid, but you know that he's a teen age boy who is thinking of fucking all the time and it's something you REALLY don't want them to jump into before the emotional self catches up with their newly dropped balls. I agree that it's a bit late for a talk with the girl, at least to undue whatever has been done to this point. I spoke with my son about sex from the time he was around 9. The talks changed with time and we had serious discussions about only having one first time and that once he hit puberty he was going to forget everything i said and it wasn't me lecturing him - we had an on-going open dialogue on many subjects for his whole life (including when he came to me crying and in a panic because he though he had broken his one ball from being too rough with it - his father still lived here but my son came to me. I have to laugh cause I couldn't at the time - I had to help him find his ball, assure him it wasn't broken and then tell him to be a bit gentler with it. ) It is seriously amazing how quickly this shit begins. One day they are still asking questions as teens and then the damn balls drop and Cindy Lou starts sending texts about giving him blow jobs when he's never even kissed a girl (yes i know he hadn't at the time). I think 15 is too young to be fucking - did then, do now. I also don't think a guy should 'do' the first willing partner - i think your first time is special and you never get it back. 17 year olds - definitely fucking, if they have willing partners. Sexting and the anonymity that comes with social media just allows kids to be saying stuff to each other that they would never say in person - hell, they can't even have a phone conversation - it's like they never learned how to speak. But get on the internet or text and away they go. And taking pictures of yourself and posting them on media sites is just plain stupid in so many ways. I know that being a mother and having a son and having been a girl teen makes me look at things different, but i don't think that it should be all dicks and breasts and blow jobs on the bus. That doesn't make me a prude, just want them all to have some respect for themselves. Didn't think you were talking to me Cosmo, but I get to vent and this story hits home. I even thought of sending it to my son. Sigh......
Nope. Those were just random thoughts from an obsessive compulsive with adult A.D.D. And yeah, I bet it's tough to raise kids today. I mean, i know my parents didn't know anything about what i was doing as a teenager. I think my parents didn't want to know... just like they didn't want my grandparents to know what they (my parents) were doing when they were teens. I think the toughest thing is... you can teach your kids all they need to know... but, you can't teach all of their friends and school mates. I had some pretty feral friends when I was a kid. I guess all you can do is hope that what you teach your kids provides a foundation for them to make sound decisions. For example, if your son crosses paths with a 15 going on 35 gal, he has the sense to know to use a condom. It's like something I saw on T.V. where these dogs were so well trained that they were able to pass through a room with hot dogs strewn all over the floor and went to their owner's arms, instead. Not saying you should train you kids like animals, just provide the skills to resist temptaions in favor of what is good and reasonable. anyway, good luck with that.
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No OCD, but I've got ADD also. Sometimes it's great - multi-tasking genius; other times I have a thought and wind up going around the block, up the fire escape, down the elevator...till I finally have to figure out where I started. I have other crap, but so does my son and the world....... The worst thing is, when he hit the point where you have to hope he remembers what he was taught, the ex started calling him without me knowing. And he started listening to him (what a freaking scary thought - i don't think all exes are bad - i just happen to have one who shouldn't speak to anyone under the age of 30.). So I'm solely legally responsible for him and I love him and worry about him; but he was a really great teen who is now a mess. And he won't talk to me. So I fear the decisions he makes. And the supervision he has. Yes, I've done everything, but go to court, which i have to do.I've been asked to wait by family over the past year because my sister had just died in September and there are times i just had had enough. But it's something I have to do, with trepidation. Anyway - off topic.
Why wasn't the girl charged with child pornography like the boy was - they both took pictures of children (themselves)? That.is a really stupid charge btw. But they're both under 18 - so why is she getting off scott-free? (Not that I think either should be charged, just asking why the sexism against the boy).
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Two...would they demand similar "evidence" were the ages of the two switched?
Three...nice to see in the update to the link that this is no longer being pursued.
Four...all this hoopla over two dumb horny kids and meantime, the Pillowcase Rapist has been released out here - yet again - after being deemed no longer a threat. This fucker raped every time he was released. But yes, it was actually considered that injecting a kid to induce erection and then compare dick pics was a good idea.
2. didn't the Supreme Court just pass a law saying that police could not search your phone? Or had the girl's mother brought this before them and therefore they had probable cause? Either way it leads to
3. Teen ager's and social media are a really scary combination. As the mother of a 16 year old boy, i have monitored FB, Instagram, etc to the best of my ability - but I cannot nor should i read all of his texts and there is snapchat and other sites that i can't keep up with - including just plain sending a picture. Teens are stupid, they do not think of anything past the moment and these things are on the internet forever - I have spoken with my son, warned him about stuff like this - but he ran away to his father's a year ago yesterday even though the 'man' has no parental rights - i won't go into it, this year has sucked. So I have no idea if he is taking pictures of his dick and sending them to girls. He'll be 17 this month and is going to be a junior - so a 15 year old could be a sophomore. He told me about a soon to be 15 year old he was talking to and all i could think of was the trouble he could get into - which is sad. I've actually told him not to take pictures of his dick, even if he's at a party and guys are just messing around or he thinks it's deleted, because all you need is one person to decide to post it and there it is , forever.
4. I'm glad that this was dismissed - i missed that part of the article. Instead of trying to prosecute the boy, the mother should have a talk with her daughter and monitor her internet activity as much as she can. The mother took the easy way out and blamed the boy; when they were both doing something they shouldn't. The internet has made intimacy far too casual and they don't realize the ramifications.
5. Those police officers who abused this child and threatened to shoot him up so they could see his erect penis should be penalized, suspended, fired - whatever is appropriate with their involvement. if police had threatened my under age son (or 18 year old for that matter - it's just one year) I would have been on the warpath. And it's not always the boys who are the aggressors - it's mutual sometimes. But there are girls that are far more mature and aggressive than boys their own age or within a couple years. Believe me, i speak from experience. But since he was the boy, no one really was concerned - except me.
This sexting shit really, really is a mother's worst nightmare.
Facts: The police are obligated to investigate reports of crimes. In this case, a report by the mother of a 15 year old girl.
Police can search a person's phone with a bench issued warrant... the same way a bench issued warrant allows the police to confiscate and search your home computer.
Teenagers like to fuck. If they aren't fucking... they are thinking about fucking.
The two teenagers did pass pictures of them selves to each other.
One 'Talk' with your kids about sex is not enough.
The Mother of the girl really needed to talk to her daughter about sex when the girl was 13. And she needed to continually talk to the daughter about sex.
The Parental Guardian (Aunt) of the boy needed to warn her nephew about the Internet and Anthony Weiner and Brett Farve.
Adults seem to forget what it was like to be 15 and 17. Things regarding teenagers and sex are the same today... as they were when you were 15 and 17... back in the 1980s.
If you have a 15 or 17 year old son or daughter who has a girlfriend or boyfriend and you don't think they are fucking... you are probably wrong.
This happened in Virginia, people. Virginia.
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My opinions: The mother didn't have to call the cops. She should have, at the very least, suspected that her daughter was in a sexual relationship. Having a '17 year old Boyfriend' is a huge fucking clue. Every guy who was ever 17 will agree... we were fucking horny when we were teenagers and all we thought about was fucking. Pretty much fucking anyone that would let us. We weren't rapists... we were beggers. Wewere also too stupid to know how to talk to girls. but, that didn't stop us from thinking about fucking most of our waking hours.
I don't know if the kid admitted to or denied that the dick posted to his girlfriend's phone, from his phone was actually, his dick. I suspect defense lawyer bullshit is somehow involved and and the district attorney's office decided to play his cards to force a plea and avoid a court case. Defense lawyer make a lot more money in courtrooms than they do in confrence rooms with district attorneys.
My guess is that the D.A.'s office is pursuing the harshest charges because the defense turned down a lesser plea. it is normal for the D.A.'s office to threaten to charge the harshes charges in order to bargain down to a lesser plea.
Lastly, the kid should have just admitted it was his dick in the picture and it was only meant for his girlfriend and not part of a worldwide NAMLA network of explicit dick pics. He would have probably gotten a lesser misdemeanor charge and probably sentenced to probation and community service and having the charges expunged after 2 year, as long as it did not happen again.
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Added: This is all part of the hysteria that is so prevalent in our society these days. This was all avoidable had the kids been educated of the pitfalls and consequences entangled with sex and technology and social networks. The same things used to happen when i was 15 and 17. The difference was, the best technology we could use was a Polaroid picture.
Hail, Hail!!!
It is seriously amazing how quickly this shit begins. One day they are still asking questions as teens and then the damn balls drop and Cindy Lou starts sending texts about giving him blow jobs when he's never even kissed a girl (yes i know he hadn't at the time). I think 15 is too young to be fucking - did then, do now. I also don't think a guy should 'do' the first willing partner - i think your first time is special and you never get it back. 17 year olds - definitely fucking, if they have willing partners.
Sexting and the anonymity that comes with social media just allows kids to be saying stuff to each other that they would never say in person - hell, they can't even have a phone conversation - it's like they never learned how to speak. But get on the internet or text and away they go. And taking pictures of yourself and posting them on media sites is just plain stupid in so many ways. I know that being a mother and having a son and having been a girl teen makes me look at things different, but i don't think that it should be all dicks and breasts and blow jobs on the bus. That doesn't make me a prude, just want them all to have some respect for themselves.
Didn't think you were talking to me Cosmo, but I get to vent and this story hits home. I even thought of sending it to my son. Sigh......
And yeah, I bet it's tough to raise kids today. I mean, i know my parents didn't know anything about what i was doing as a teenager. I think my parents didn't want to know... just like they didn't want my grandparents to know what they (my parents) were doing when they were teens.
I think the toughest thing is... you can teach your kids all they need to know... but, you can't teach all of their friends and school mates. I had some pretty feral friends when I was a kid. I guess all you can do is hope that what you teach your kids provides a foundation for them to make sound decisions. For example, if your son crosses paths with a 15 going on 35 gal, he has the sense to know to use a condom. It's like something I saw on T.V. where these dogs were so well trained that they were able to pass through a room with hot dogs strewn all over the floor and went to their owner's arms, instead. Not saying you should train you kids like animals, just provide the skills to resist temptaions in favor of what is good and reasonable.
anyway, good luck with that.
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The worst thing is, when he hit the point where you have to hope he remembers what he was taught, the ex started calling him without me knowing. And he started listening to him (what a freaking scary thought - i don't think all exes are bad - i just happen to have one who shouldn't speak to anyone under the age of 30.). So I'm solely legally responsible for him and I love him and worry about him; but he was a really great teen who is now a mess. And he won't talk to me. So I fear the decisions he makes. And the supervision he has. Yes, I've done everything, but go to court, which i have to do.I've been asked to wait by family over the past year because my sister had just died in September and there are times i just had had enough. But it's something I have to do, with trepidation. Anyway - off topic.
Why wasn't the girl charged with child pornography like the boy was - they both took pictures of children (themselves)? That.is a really stupid charge btw. But they're both under 18 - so why is she getting off scott-free? (Not that I think either should be charged, just asking why the sexism against the boy).