so Boehner is thingking "should I sue obama ?"

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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    this is pure politics. this will not even hit the courts until after obama leaves office. if this was such an urgent threat to our republic, or a constitutional crisis, why is this not fast tracked in the senate?? surely reid would want to fast track it if there was evidence.

    boehner would be better served to maybe consider bringing things to the house floor for a vote instead of posturing for the koch bros and the tea party fringe.

    if boehner wants to stall, why not just seek articles of impeachment???

    oh yeah, i forgot, there has to be evidence of a crime committed. the burden of proof will be on boehner and the house. but since they have nothing, they can't impeach anybody.

    they can just sit back and point fingers. kind of like how they have "legislated" in the house since 2009.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    come on johnny boy. do something. do it!!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,041
    They have nothing. If they had it, it would have been out by now. All they can do is fire up their base and alienate themselves from everyone else. At some point the voters will say, "put up, or shut up." But its summer, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet. Pay no attention to that do nothing congress.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    the founding fathers would be disgusted by this congress.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Gimmi I think the founding fathers would be disgusted with our entire government all the way back to..........ohhhh just pick one hahhahhah.

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303

    Gimmi I think the founding fathers would be disgusted with our entire government all the way back to..........ohhhh just pick one hahhahhah.

    Godfather.

    not when the government works the way it is supposed to..

    when it works it is something to be proud of. when it does nothing as it does today, it is a fucking embarrassment.
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  • i was hoping for some sort of rebuttal gimme... good points made.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    yes when it works as it should, I agree.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/opinion/boehner-obama-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

    this guy just ain't giving up, I love it hahhahhahhah.

    Godfather.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I really really really hate to say it but Boehner is 100% correct. This President has overstepped his authority, not that others have not, they all should have been stopped.
  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    If both sides worked together to pass some laws that actually helped the majority of people and stopped pulling stunts or refusing to work together because of the letter after their names this country might start to function better.

    but you know pigs flying and all that...
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Why do we need more laws? We don't follow the ones we have, how is reform going to change that?
  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    unsung said:

    Why do we need more laws? We don't follow the ones we have, how is reform going to change that?

    98% of ppl follow the laws we have, we need laws so those that break them can have consequences (and raise revenue). We need laws that are appropriate to the culture we live in today. Murder and things that lead to murder should have rules. Marriage between any two people shouldn't.
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451

    This two party bullshit is ruining our country. Republicans & Democrats spend too much time trying to promote their own party & knocking the other, and not enough doing their God damn jobs.

    I 100% think this is the biggest reason our country is headed right down the shitter. Keep thinking the other party is the enemy. It's really perfect for the government. Conservatives blame liberals for all their problems & vice-versa. Meanwhile our elected leaders are in bed with big business and they are all laughing their way to the bank.

    All the while, our prospects for a bright future get bleaker. I don't want to live with my head in the sand, but when I try to read up on current events I want to jump out a freakin' window.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524


    This two party bullshit is ruining our country. Republicans & Democrats spend too much time trying to promote their own party & knocking the other, and not enough doing their God damn jobs.

    I 100% think this is the biggest reason our country is headed right down the shitter. Keep thinking the other party is the enemy. It's really perfect for the government. Conservatives blame liberals for all their problems & vice-versa. Meanwhile our elected leaders are in bed with big business and they are all laughing their way to the bank.

    All the while, our prospects for a bright future get bleaker. I don't want to live with my head in the sand, but when I try to read up on current events I want to jump out a freakin' window.

    Amen to this.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    a5pj said:

    unsung said:

    Why do we need more laws? We don't follow the ones we have, how is reform going to change that?

    98% of ppl follow the laws we have, we need laws so those that break them can have consequences (and raise revenue). We need laws that are appropriate to the culture we live in today. Murder and things that lead to murder should have rules. Marriage between any two people shouldn't.

    Lol. Do we need murder reform?


  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    unsung said:

    a5pj said:

    unsung said:

    Why do we need more laws? We don't follow the ones we have, how is reform going to change that?

    98% of ppl follow the laws we have, we need laws so those that break them can have consequences (and raise revenue). We need laws that are appropriate to the culture we live in today. Murder and things that lead to murder should have rules. Marriage between any two people shouldn't.

    Lol. Do we need murder reform?


    No, we should remove all laws from weapons and see what happens. Oh looks like that's how it is with guns currently. How many ppl are killed from guns each year? Oh yeah, a lot LOL!
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    hedonist said:


    This two party bullshit is ruining our country. Republicans & Democrats spend too much time trying to promote their own party & knocking the other, and not enough doing their God damn jobs.

    I 100% think this is the biggest reason our country is headed right down the shitter. Keep thinking the other party is the enemy. It's really perfect for the government. Conservatives blame liberals for all their problems & vice-versa. Meanwhile our elected leaders are in bed with big business and they are all laughing their way to the bank.

    All the while, our prospects for a bright future get bleaker. I don't want to live with my head in the sand, but when I try to read up on current events I want to jump out a freakin' window.

    Amen to this.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    a5pj said:

    unsung said:

    a5pj said:

    unsung said:

    Why do we need more laws? We don't follow the ones we have, how is reform going to change that?

    98% of ppl follow the laws we have, we need laws so those that break them can have consequences (and raise revenue). We need laws that are appropriate to the culture we live in today. Murder and things that lead to murder should have rules. Marriage between any two people shouldn't.

    Lol. Do we need murder reform?


    No, we should remove all laws from weapons and see what happens. Oh looks like that's how it is with guns currently. How many ppl are killed from guns each year? Oh yeah, a lot LOL!

    Well, I don't find murder funny.

    Create all the laws you want, if you believe that the gangs of Chicago care about your laws then you'd be foolish.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487


    This two party bullshit is ruining our country. Republicans & Democrats spend too much time trying to promote their own party & knocking the other, and not enough doing their God damn jobs.

    I 100% think this is the biggest reason our country is headed right down the shitter. Keep thinking the other party is the enemy. It's really perfect for the government. Conservatives blame liberals for all their problems & vice-versa. Meanwhile our elected leaders are in bed with big business and they are all laughing their way to the bank.

    All the while, our prospects for a bright future get bleaker. I don't want to live with my head in the sand, but when I try to read up on current events I want to jump out a freakin' window.


    They are in bed with each other. It's all meant to distract, everything is pretty much planned to keep people's focus away from the truth. We are not represented. This finger pointing game is all an act.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    unsung said:


    This two party bullshit is ruining our country. Republicans & Democrats spend too much time trying to promote their own party & knocking the other, and not enough doing their God damn jobs.

    I 100% think this is the biggest reason our country is headed right down the shitter. Keep thinking the other party is the enemy. It's really perfect for the government. Conservatives blame liberals for all their problems & vice-versa. Meanwhile our elected leaders are in bed with big business and they are all laughing their way to the bank.

    All the while, our prospects for a bright future get bleaker. I don't want to live with my head in the sand, but when I try to read up on current events I want to jump out a freakin' window.


    They are in bed with each other. It's all meant to distract, everything is pretty much planned to keep people's focus away from the truth. We are not represented. This finger pointing game is all an act.
    Yup, they want you & I arguing over gun laws & welfare etc. all the while they have us over a barrel laughing their asses off.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I firmly believe that television programming is designed to keep the population docile and distracted.

    When something bipartisan happens it is rarely good for us.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,041
    unsung said:

    I firmly believe that television programming is designed to keep the population docile and distracted.

    When something bipartisan happens it is rarely good for us.

    So I guess the Reagan years completely sucked and he was one of the worst presidents ever, huh? Care to throw out some bi-partisan legislation that hasn't been good for us? Or are you just over generalizing again?

    You really do need to move and go live "free" somewhere, though. I don't know how you leave your shelter, what with the threat of arrest and cloying government oppression everywhere you turn. Maybe North Korea would suit you?

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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    I don't find murder funny either, hence why there should be more regulations around guns and weapons.

    So what you're saying with gangs in Chicago is that because a small percentage break the rules we don't need them at all? So if the US was like the movie the Purge (all crime legal for a short time) all the time we would all be ok right?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    I firmly believe that television programming is designed to keep the population docile and distracted.

    When something bipartisan happens it is rarely good for us.

    So I guess the Reagan years completely sucked and he was one of the worst presidents ever, huh? Care to throw out some bi-partisan legislation that hasn't been good for us? Or are you just over generalizing again?

    You really do need to move and go live "free" somewhere, though. I don't know how you leave your shelter, what with the threat of arrest and cloying government oppression everywhere you turn. Maybe North Korea would suit you?

    Peace.

    First of all I generally don't respond to you because your tone is inflammatory, and I'm not going to debate someone who throws out personal jabs without delay.

    Secondly, don't presume to know what is best for me, because like the government you don't know what that is.

    Thirdly, your peace ending is like trying to take words back, your entire posts scream anything but peace.

    And you, and others, quickly resort to calling me paranoid, over-generalizing, and whatever else crosses your brain at the time it begins to process anything that I might add.

    If you what to discuss an issue and tell me why I'm wrong I'm listening, otherwise stop typing out black helicopters when you issue your line of defense.



    So in another attempt to stay on topic some bipartisan laws that have affected us all include the PATRIOT Act, NDAA, farm subsidy bills, wind subsidies, and this NSA spying. I'm no Reagan acolyte either.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    a5pj said:

    I don't find murder funny either, hence why there should be more regulations around guns and weapons.

    So what you're saying with gangs in Chicago is that because a small percentage break the rules we don't need them at all? So if the US was like the movie the Purge (all crime legal for a short time) all the time we would all be ok right?


    Chicago is the city with the most regulated and strictest gun laws in the country, yet it leads in crimes where guns are used. Your logic does not make sense. A small percentage? The purge? Can you discuss the topic or is movie fantasy the way you want to make your argument?

  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited July 2014


    Care to throw out some bi-partisan legislation that hasn't been good for us? Or are you just over generalizing again?


    Here is a bi-partisan that would have been good, but it didn't pass. I just received this from Rep. Justin Amash....

    I voted yes on the Fortenberry of NE Amendment to ‪#‎HR4870‬, which prohibits funding in the bill from being used to provide weapons in Syria. These weapons will be used against us and our allies, not just against the Syrian government. The amendment was not agreed to 167-244.

    Both sides went "bi-partisan" and stopped this from passing. BOTH SIDES. The entire thing is corrupt, not just those evil Republicans.


    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll328.xml
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,604
    unsung said:


    Care to throw out some bi-partisan legislation that hasn't been good for us? Or are you just over generalizing again?


    Here is a bi-partisan that would have been good, but it didn't pass. I just received this from Rep. Justin Amash....

    I voted yes on the Fortenberry of NE Amendment to ‪#‎HR4870‬, which prohibits funding in the bill from being used to provide weapons in Syria. These weapons will be used against us and our allies, not just against the Syrian government. The amendment was not agreed to 167-244.

    Both sides went "bi-partisan" and stopped this from passing. BOTH SIDES. The entire thing is corrupt, not just those evil Republicans.


    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll328.xml
    On my phone on a break. I have a question. This bill that failed, was it confined to the above statement alone or were there unrelated amendments attached?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,041
    mickeyrat said:

    unsung said:


    Care to throw out some bi-partisan legislation that hasn't been good for us? Or are you just over generalizing again?


    Here is a bi-partisan that would have been good, but it didn't pass. I just received this from Rep. Justin Amash....

    I voted yes on the Fortenberry of NE Amendment to ‪#‎HR4870‬, which prohibits funding in the bill from being used to provide weapons in Syria. These weapons will be used against us and our allies, not just against the Syrian government. The amendment was not agreed to 167-244.

    Both sides went "bi-partisan" and stopped this from passing. BOTH SIDES. The entire thing is corrupt, not just those evil Republicans.


    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll328.xml
    On my phone on a break. I have a question. This bill that failed, was it confined to the above statement alone or were there unrelated amendments attached?
    80 amendments, some of which passed and some which failed. I'll try to give you a break out by party and a sampling of some of the amendments.

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