America's Gun Violence
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I'm not sure if that's true or not. He needs every vote he can get, and the last thing he can afford is the base peeling off and staying home. They won't vote for Dems, but there were a fair number of unexpected voters in the last election. I think this is why he is so subservient; because he has nowhere else to go.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've been saying the same thing. There's a reason that Trump has the highest in-party approval rating of any president ever. He'll do or say anything the GOP wants. Or more specially, he'll do or say anything the GOP has wanted to say or do over the years, but didn't have the nerve to.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
Say he ignores this "warning" from the NRA and goes ahead with more extensive background checks. Would that really hurt him politically? Sure it would piss off some people on the right and maybe his GOP approval rating drops from 89% to like 80%, but he'd pick up some support from other people that just want the president to do the right thing when it comes to mass shootings.
I think that the NRA spent about $30 million to help Trump get elected in 2016. Is Trump afraid of losing that? That's chunk change in the grand scheme of things. And it's not like the NRA would ever endorse or contribute to Biden or any of the Dems. So Trump really has nothing to lose politically by going against them. In fact, he'd have a lot to gain. He wouldn't look like such a puppet.0 -
It's all about the Dough-Ray-Me, yo.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
I like the "yo" thing at the end. It's like I'm in HS again. Whomever started doing that TY.0 -
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It's all about the Dough-Ray-Me, yo.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
I like the "yo" thing at the end. It's like I'm in HS again. Whomever started doing that TY.
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Yeah I guess that's true. I just wonder sometimes how much of the Republican electorate are obsessed with guns. And when I say "obsessed," I mean people that are against assault weapon bans, not someone that just loves their handgun or hunting rifle. Trump would lose support of the "obsessed," but I think your common gun owner would be for more extensive background checks.mrussel1 said:
I'm not sure if that's true or not. He needs every vote he can get, and the last thing he can afford is the base peeling off and staying home. They won't vote for Dems, but there were a fair number of unexpected voters in the last election. I think this is why he is so subservient; because he has nowhere else to go.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've been saying the same thing. There's a reason that Trump has the highest in-party approval rating of any president ever. He'll do or say anything the GOP wants. Or more specially, he'll do or say anything the GOP has wanted to say or do over the years, but didn't have the nerve to.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
Say he ignores this "warning" from the NRA and goes ahead with more extensive background checks. Would that really hurt him politically? Sure it would piss off some people on the right and maybe his GOP approval rating drops from 89% to like 80%, but he'd pick up some support from other people that just want the president to do the right thing when it comes to mass shootings.
I think that the NRA spent about $30 million to help Trump get elected in 2016. Is Trump afraid of losing that? That's chunk change in the grand scheme of things. And it's not like the NRA would ever endorse or contribute to Biden or any of the Dems. So Trump really has nothing to lose politically by going against them. In fact, he'd have a lot to gain. He wouldn't look like such a puppet.
If every registered Republican was polled and asked what are the issues that mean the most to them are, I wonder where gun rights would rank among the usual things (stopping illegal immigration, small government, pro-life, etc). Maybe at the top, but maybe not. I have no clue. I'm sure there's a poll like this somewhere though.
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Does Team Trump Treason equate himself to god?
‘You Had God Watching’
President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump “met Wednesday with some of the dozens wounded or injured in the weekend mass shootings in Ohio and Texas that left 31 dead,” Fred Lucas reports in The Daily Signal.
“In between visits with survivors at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton, Ohio, the president and first lady thanked the medical staff.” While there, the President told survivors that “you had God watching. I want you to know we’re with you all the way.”
Later yesterday, “the president and first lady visited with first responders and hospital staff as well as victims and their families at the University Medical Center of El Paso.”
From the offical White House email.
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Totally down with this !Meltdown99 said:Red flag laws might catch the odd duck that is planning a mass shooting but the effects will be minimal. The US and Canada needs to ban assault weapons and the US needs better gun control. But that will never happen because your politicians are plain greedy and somehow feel they can not get elected without NRA money. I call bullshit. Politicians should only be allowed 1 6 year term...ban ALL lobbying, You get caught lobbying or excepting money from a lobbyist max jail time...say 25 years...must serve 95% of your time.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Come on, isn't Trump awful enough that you don't need to make stretches like this? That quote is obviously meant as "you were shot but didn't die because God was on your side." And "I want you to know we're with you all the way" is just something his pandering ass would say and not mean.Halifax2TheMax said:Does Team Trump Treason equate himself to god?‘You Had God Watching’
President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump “met Wednesday with some of the dozens wounded or injured in the weekend mass shootings in Ohio and Texas that left 31 dead,” Fred Lucas reports in The Daily Signal.
“In between visits with survivors at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton, Ohio, the president and first lady thanked the medical staff.” While there, the President told survivors that “you had God watching. I want you to know we’re with you all the way.”
Later yesterday, “the president and first lady visited with first responders and hospital staff as well as victims and their families at the University Medical Center of El Paso.”
From the offical White House email.
Some White House aide DID compare his greeting to that of "rock star" though, which is insane. And Trump did attack local politicians in Texas and Ohio, which is also insane. But I don't think he's equating himself to God here. Even if he probably does think that in his peabrain.
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I thought I heard that 80% of dems and 67% of repubs were for expanded universal background checks? Anyway, it seems a no brainer except in those gerrymandered super red districts and the fear the likes of Moscow Mitchy Baby being primaried by the NRA. Spineless little fucks.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I guess that's true. I just wonder sometimes how much of the Republican electorate are obsessed with guns. And when I say "obsessed," I mean people that are against assault weapon bans, not someone that just loves their handgun or hunting rifle. Trump would lose support of the "obsessed," but I think your common gun owner would be for more extensive background checks.mrussel1 said:
I'm not sure if that's true or not. He needs every vote he can get, and the last thing he can afford is the base peeling off and staying home. They won't vote for Dems, but there were a fair number of unexpected voters in the last election. I think this is why he is so subservient; because he has nowhere else to go.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've been saying the same thing. There's a reason that Trump has the highest in-party approval rating of any president ever. He'll do or say anything the GOP wants. Or more specially, he'll do or say anything the GOP has wanted to say or do over the years, but didn't have the nerve to.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
Say he ignores this "warning" from the NRA and goes ahead with more extensive background checks. Would that really hurt him politically? Sure it would piss off some people on the right and maybe his GOP approval rating drops from 89% to like 80%, but he'd pick up some support from other people that just want the president to do the right thing when it comes to mass shootings.
I think that the NRA spent about $30 million to help Trump get elected in 2016. Is Trump afraid of losing that? That's chunk change in the grand scheme of things. And it's not like the NRA would ever endorse or contribute to Biden or any of the Dems. So Trump really has nothing to lose politically by going against them. In fact, he'd have a lot to gain. He wouldn't look like such a puppet.
If every registered Republican was polled and asked what are the issues that mean the most to them are, I wonder where gun rights would rank among the usual things (stopping illegal immigration, small government, pro-life, etc). Maybe at the top, but maybe not. I have no clue. I'm sure there's a poll like this somewhere though.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Yes only he can talk directly to God we’ll pence too , so yeah at least we have that going for us !Halifax2TheMax said:Does Team Trump Treason equate himself to god?‘You Had God Watching’
President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump “met Wednesday with some of the dozens wounded or injured in the weekend mass shootings in Ohio and Texas that left 31 dead,” Fred Lucas reports in The Daily Signal.
“In between visits with survivors at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton, Ohio, the president and first lady thanked the medical staff.” While there, the President told survivors that “you had God watching. I want you to know we’re with you all the way.”
Later yesterday, “the president and first lady visited with first responders and hospital staff as well as victims and their families at the University Medical Center of El Paso.”
From the offical White House email.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I think those are pretty good numbers. A majority of both parties.Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought I heard that 80% of dems and 67% of repubs were for expanded universal background checks? Anyway, it seems a no brainer except in those gerrymandered super red districts and the fear the likes of Moscow Mitchy Baby being primaried by the NRA. Spineless little fucks.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I guess that's true. I just wonder sometimes how much of the Republican electorate are obsessed with guns. And when I say "obsessed," I mean people that are against assault weapon bans, not someone that just loves their handgun or hunting rifle. Trump would lose support of the "obsessed," but I think your common gun owner would be for more extensive background checks.mrussel1 said:
I'm not sure if that's true or not. He needs every vote he can get, and the last thing he can afford is the base peeling off and staying home. They won't vote for Dems, but there were a fair number of unexpected voters in the last election. I think this is why he is so subservient; because he has nowhere else to go.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've been saying the same thing. There's a reason that Trump has the highest in-party approval rating of any president ever. He'll do or say anything the GOP wants. Or more specially, he'll do or say anything the GOP has wanted to say or do over the years, but didn't have the nerve to.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
Say he ignores this "warning" from the NRA and goes ahead with more extensive background checks. Would that really hurt him politically? Sure it would piss off some people on the right and maybe his GOP approval rating drops from 89% to like 80%, but he'd pick up some support from other people that just want the president to do the right thing when it comes to mass shootings.
I think that the NRA spent about $30 million to help Trump get elected in 2016. Is Trump afraid of losing that? That's chunk change in the grand scheme of things. And it's not like the NRA would ever endorse or contribute to Biden or any of the Dems. So Trump really has nothing to lose politically by going against them. In fact, he'd have a lot to gain. He wouldn't look like such a puppet.
If every registered Republican was polled and asked what are the issues that mean the most to them are, I wonder where gun rights would rank among the usual things (stopping illegal immigration, small government, pro-life, etc). Maybe at the top, but maybe not. I have no clue. I'm sure there's a poll like this somewhere though.
You seem to know more about how the congress operates than I do. How is it that McConnell (or any majority leader) is able to not allow a vote? That shit pisses me off when people try that in my fantasy football league, let alone in the congress.
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Did those who died not have, "god watching?" were they somehow sinners or unworthy? Seems a bizarre thing to say but he probably didn't think about what he'd say until he was in their presence and had to speak. Just another check box. POS. And what does he mean by, "we're with you all the way?" How? US Govt. going to pay their medical expenses? Give the folks his personal cell number to call if they ever need anything? He forgot about them as soon as he left the room. Or as soon as he left Toledo.Ledbetterman10 said:
Come on, isn't Trump awful enough that you don't need to make stretches like this? That quote is obviously meant as "you were shot but didn't die because God was on your side." And "I want you to know we're with you all the way" is just something his pandering ass would say and not mean.Halifax2TheMax said:Does Team Trump Treason equate himself to god?‘You Had God Watching’
President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump “met Wednesday with some of the dozens wounded or injured in the weekend mass shootings in Ohio and Texas that left 31 dead,” Fred Lucas reports in The Daily Signal.
“In between visits with survivors at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton, Ohio, the president and first lady thanked the medical staff.” While there, the President told survivors that “you had God watching. I want you to know we’re with you all the way.”
Later yesterday, “the president and first lady visited with first responders and hospital staff as well as victims and their families at the University Medical Center of El Paso.”
From the offical White House email.
Some White House aide DID compare his greeting to that of "rock star" though, which is insane. And Trump did attack local politicians in Texas and Ohio, which is also insane. But I don't think he's equating himself to God here. Even if he probably does think that in his peabrain.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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You know, you are probably right that he has some politically movement on this one. There is some crazies out there for sure, but the congress is more beholden to the NRA than the voters.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think those are pretty good numbers. A majority of both parties.Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought I heard that 80% of dems and 67% of repubs were for expanded universal background checks? Anyway, it seems a no brainer except in those gerrymandered super red districts and the fear the likes of Moscow Mitchy Baby being primaried by the NRA. Spineless little fucks.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I guess that's true. I just wonder sometimes how much of the Republican electorate are obsessed with guns. And when I say "obsessed," I mean people that are against assault weapon bans, not someone that just loves their handgun or hunting rifle. Trump would lose support of the "obsessed," but I think your common gun owner would be for more extensive background checks.mrussel1 said:
I'm not sure if that's true or not. He needs every vote he can get, and the last thing he can afford is the base peeling off and staying home. They won't vote for Dems, but there were a fair number of unexpected voters in the last election. I think this is why he is so subservient; because he has nowhere else to go.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've been saying the same thing. There's a reason that Trump has the highest in-party approval rating of any president ever. He'll do or say anything the GOP wants. Or more specially, he'll do or say anything the GOP has wanted to say or do over the years, but didn't have the nerve to.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
Say he ignores this "warning" from the NRA and goes ahead with more extensive background checks. Would that really hurt him politically? Sure it would piss off some people on the right and maybe his GOP approval rating drops from 89% to like 80%, but he'd pick up some support from other people that just want the president to do the right thing when it comes to mass shootings.
I think that the NRA spent about $30 million to help Trump get elected in 2016. Is Trump afraid of losing that? That's chunk change in the grand scheme of things. And it's not like the NRA would ever endorse or contribute to Biden or any of the Dems. So Trump really has nothing to lose politically by going against them. In fact, he'd have a lot to gain. He wouldn't look like such a puppet.
If every registered Republican was polled and asked what are the issues that mean the most to them are, I wonder where gun rights would rank among the usual things (stopping illegal immigration, small government, pro-life, etc). Maybe at the top, but maybe not. I have no clue. I'm sure there's a poll like this somewhere though.
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I'm pretty sure that approval among actual NRA members is similar to that 67% figure. All of the polling of NRA members that I have seen the last several years is in support of stricter background checks. It's fucking Wayne LaPierreHalifax2TheMax said:
I thought I heard that 80% of dems and 67% of repubs were for expanded universal background checks? Anyway, it seems a no brainer except in those gerrymandered super red districts and the fear the likes of Moscow Mitchy Baby being primaried by the NRA. Spineless little fucks.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I guess that's true. I just wonder sometimes how much of the Republican electorate are obsessed with guns. And when I say "obsessed," I mean people that are against assault weapon bans, not someone that just loves their handgun or hunting rifle. Trump would lose support of the "obsessed," but I think your common gun owner would be for more extensive background checks.mrussel1 said:
I'm not sure if that's true or not. He needs every vote he can get, and the last thing he can afford is the base peeling off and staying home. They won't vote for Dems, but there were a fair number of unexpected voters in the last election. I think this is why he is so subservient; because he has nowhere else to go.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've been saying the same thing. There's a reason that Trump has the highest in-party approval rating of any president ever. He'll do or say anything the GOP wants. Or more specially, he'll do or say anything the GOP has wanted to say or do over the years, but didn't have the nerve to.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
Say he ignores this "warning" from the NRA and goes ahead with more extensive background checks. Would that really hurt him politically? Sure it would piss off some people on the right and maybe his GOP approval rating drops from 89% to like 80%, but he'd pick up some support from other people that just want the president to do the right thing when it comes to mass shootings.
I think that the NRA spent about $30 million to help Trump get elected in 2016. Is Trump afraid of losing that? That's chunk change in the grand scheme of things. And it's not like the NRA would ever endorse or contribute to Biden or any of the Dems. So Trump really has nothing to lose politically by going against them. In fact, he'd have a lot to gain. He wouldn't look like such a puppet.
If every registered Republican was polled and asked what are the issues that mean the most to them are, I wonder where gun rights would rank among the usual things (stopping illegal immigration, small government, pro-life, etc). Maybe at the top, but maybe not. I have no clue. I'm sure there's a poll like this somewhere though.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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How the F can any rational person say that tougher, mandatory background checks are a bad idea? I don’t understand this at all. They feel it is a God given right for anyone to walk in and buy a gun, unchecked and unvetted? Fuck the NRA. Wake up.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
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I just don’t get why anyone would be against more background checks unless of course you have something to hide.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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I don't disagree with any of this...I just don't think he was calling himself God.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did those who died not have, "god watching?" were they somehow sinners or unworthy? Seems a bizarre thing to say but he probably didn't think about what he'd say until he was in their presence and had to speak. Just another check box. POS. And what does he mean by, "we're with you all the way?" How? US Govt. going to pay their medical expenses? Give the folks his personal cell number to call if they ever need anything? He forgot about them as soon as he left the room. Or as soon as he left Toledo.Ledbetterman10 said:
Come on, isn't Trump awful enough that you don't need to make stretches like this? That quote is obviously meant as "you were shot but didn't die because God was on your side." And "I want you to know we're with you all the way" is just something his pandering ass would say and not mean.Halifax2TheMax said:Does Team Trump Treason equate himself to god?‘You Had God Watching’
President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump “met Wednesday with some of the dozens wounded or injured in the weekend mass shootings in Ohio and Texas that left 31 dead,” Fred Lucas reports in The Daily Signal.
“In between visits with survivors at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton, Ohio, the president and first lady thanked the medical staff.” While there, the President told survivors that “you had God watching. I want you to know we’re with you all the way.”
Later yesterday, “the president and first lady visited with first responders and hospital staff as well as victims and their families at the University Medical Center of El Paso.”
From the offical White House email.
Some White House aide DID compare his greeting to that of "rock star" though, which is insane. And Trump did attack local politicians in Texas and Ohio, which is also insane. But I don't think he's equating himself to God here. Even if he probably does think that in his peabrain.
Not to go on a big God rant, but there's nothing dumber than someone saying (as Trump did) that God was on someone's side with they survive something like this for the same reasons you're saying; so God wasn't on the side of the ones that were murdered? Hell, while I type this, a 6-year-old sex-slave is being gang-raped by some businessmen in Taiwan. Where's God for that child?
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A report just came out that LaPierre feared for his life following the Parkland shootings, so he requested the NRA put him up in some six-million dollar luxury home. The NRA is being investigated for even considering it. Hopefully more stuff like that comes to light and NRA members can see where their "dues" are truly going....Gern Blansten said:
I'm pretty sure that approval among actual NRA members is similar to that 67% figure. All of the polling of NRA members that I have seen the last several years is in support of stricter background checks. It's fucking Wayne LaPierreHalifax2TheMax said:
I thought I heard that 80% of dems and 67% of repubs were for expanded universal background checks? Anyway, it seems a no brainer except in those gerrymandered super red districts and the fear the likes of Moscow Mitchy Baby being primaried by the NRA. Spineless little fucks.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I guess that's true. I just wonder sometimes how much of the Republican electorate are obsessed with guns. And when I say "obsessed," I mean people that are against assault weapon bans, not someone that just loves their handgun or hunting rifle. Trump would lose support of the "obsessed," but I think your common gun owner would be for more extensive background checks.mrussel1 said:
I'm not sure if that's true or not. He needs every vote he can get, and the last thing he can afford is the base peeling off and staying home. They won't vote for Dems, but there were a fair number of unexpected voters in the last election. I think this is why he is so subservient; because he has nowhere else to go.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've been saying the same thing. There's a reason that Trump has the highest in-party approval rating of any president ever. He'll do or say anything the GOP wants. Or more specially, he'll do or say anything the GOP has wanted to say or do over the years, but didn't have the nerve to.mrussel1 said:
This shows the true weakness of Trump politically. He doesn't shape opinion, he parrots it.Halifax2TheMax said:Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRAPresident Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.
Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.
Trump’s previous declarations of support for tougher gun controls, including after the deadly Parkland, Fla., shooting in February 2018, have foundered without a sustained push from the president and support from the NRA or Republican lawmakers. Even Trump’s advisers question how far he will go on any effort.
I guess a 3% to 6% drop in legal gun sales has the NRA and the gun industry concerned. That 3% to 6% drop might just save your life, but yea, you know, nothing can be done.
Say he ignores this "warning" from the NRA and goes ahead with more extensive background checks. Would that really hurt him politically? Sure it would piss off some people on the right and maybe his GOP approval rating drops from 89% to like 80%, but he'd pick up some support from other people that just want the president to do the right thing when it comes to mass shootings.
I think that the NRA spent about $30 million to help Trump get elected in 2016. Is Trump afraid of losing that? That's chunk change in the grand scheme of things. And it's not like the NRA would ever endorse or contribute to Biden or any of the Dems. So Trump really has nothing to lose politically by going against them. In fact, he'd have a lot to gain. He wouldn't look like such a puppet.
If every registered Republican was polled and asked what are the issues that mean the most to them are, I wonder where gun rights would rank among the usual things (stopping illegal immigration, small government, pro-life, etc). Maybe at the top, but maybe not. I have no clue. I'm sure there's a poll like this somewhere though.
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