America's Gun Violence

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The honourable NRA collaborates with Australia’s nationalist One Nation to try and weaken gun laws.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1R7083
    Oh that NRA and their silly antics.  I thought everyone in Australia was cool with the gun laws...I guess not.
    Well, there are gun nuts in every country. It’s just that most counties do a better job of managing them than the US. 
    Correct!

    Every country has idiots they need to manage.
    I’m going to go ahead and fully agree with that statement 

    Man , you and I have been agreeing a ton lately.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The honourable NRA collaborates with Australia’s nationalist One Nation to try and weaken gun laws.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1R7083
    Oh that NRA and their silly antics.  I thought everyone in Australia was cool with the gun laws...I guess not.
    Well, there are gun nuts in every country. It’s just that most counties do a better job of managing them than the US. 
    Correct!

    Every country has idiots they need to manage.
    I’m going to go ahead and fully agree with that statement 

    Man , you and I have been agreeing a ton lately.
    Pretty sure this was prophesied as a sign of the end of days or something...Now we just need to wait for a six-dicked sea monster to slaughter us all if I remember correctly (I tend to not remember correctly)
     
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    Just another “responsible” gun owner doing what they do in ‘Murica.

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    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    I got up, went to work, came home. Nothing happened involving a gun. Typical day for an American gun owner.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    dudeman said:
    I got up, went to work, came home. Nothing happened involving a gun. Typical day for an American gun owner.
    Until it’s not.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    I'll let you know. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    Just another “responsible” gun owner being held responsible.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/georgia-girl-shot-by-brother/index.html
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,424
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner being held responsible.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/georgia-girl-shot-by-brother/index.html
    Guns don't  kill people






    The children of gun owners kill other children
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,424
    Imagine the outcome if a gun wasn't around....

    A child is found hiding under a bed after father kills mother and 2 siblings over affair suspicions, police say
           https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/us/phoenix-man-kills-wife-and-children-over-affair-allegations/index.html
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Imagine the outcome if a gun wasn't around....

    A child is found hiding under a bed after father kills mother and 2 siblings over affair suspicions, police say
           https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/us/phoenix-man-kills-wife-and-children-over-affair-allegations/index.html
    Why the kids too? I mean... I’m not saying shooting the wife was fantastic, but wtf is wrong with you man? Why your kids? Death Penalty.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    Just another “responsible” gun owner being “responsible.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/us/gun-diaper-bag-chuck-e-cheese-daughter/index.html
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,424
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner being “responsible.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/us/gun-diaper-bag-chuck-e-cheese-daughter/index.html
    Guns don't kill people 





    Gun owners do kill/shoot/injure people
    Their children do as well
    Their friends  do too
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,265
    Just more “responsible” gun owners being “responsible” with their firearms.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/us/oakland-family-gunfire/index.html
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,424
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just more “responsible” gun owners being “responsible” with their firearms.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/us/oakland-family-gunfire/index.html
    Guns don't kill people




    The children of gun owners do
  • josevolution
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    https://twitter.com/olganyc1211/status/1118381177558192133?s=21
    What would it take to call this nut job a terrorist 
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  • mace1229
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    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/olganyc1211/status/1118381177558192133?s=21
    What would it take to call this nut job a terrorist 
    My guess (and that's all it is) is that it probably isn't illegal to have a hit list. I didn't see where he made any threats (unless you count the letter mentioned, but that might not have been specific enough, who knows). And a bunch of guns without any real threats and just a list of names amounts to illegal gun possession charges.  But he's facing 31 years of drugs and weapons charges.
    It would probably take a specific threat (time and place planned) to amount to terrorism, not just a racist letter and some names.
    Not saying I agree with the outcome, but that's my guess on what happened.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/olganyc1211/status/1118381177558192133?s=21
    What would it take to call this nut job a terrorist 
    My guess (and that's all it is) is that it probably isn't illegal to have a hit list. I didn't see where he made any threats (unless you count the letter mentioned, but that might not have been specific enough, who knows). And a bunch of guns without any real threats and just a list of names amounts to illegal gun possession charges.  But he's facing 31 years of drugs and weapons charges.
    It would probably take a specific threat (time and place planned) to amount to terrorism, not just a racist letter and some names.
    Not saying I agree with the outcome, but that's my guess on what happened.
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/olganyc1211/status/1118381177558192133?s=21
    What would it take to call this nut job a terrorist 
    My guess (and that's all it is) is that it probably isn't illegal to have a hit list. I didn't see where he made any threats (unless you count the letter mentioned, but that might not have been specific enough, who knows). And a bunch of guns without any real threats and just a list of names amounts to illegal gun possession charges.  But he's facing 31 years of drugs and weapons charges.
    It would probably take a specific threat (time and place planned) to amount to terrorism, not just a racist letter and some names.
    Not saying I agree with the outcome, but that's my guess on what happened.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/olganyc1211/status/1118381177558192133?s=21
    What would it take to call this nut job a terrorist 
    My guess (and that's all it is) is that it probably isn't illegal to have a hit list. I didn't see where he made any threats (unless you count the letter mentioned, but that might not have been specific enough, who knows). And a bunch of guns without any real threats and just a list of names amounts to illegal gun possession charges.  But he's facing 31 years of drugs and weapons charges.
    It would probably take a specific threat (time and place planned) to amount to terrorism, not just a racist letter and some names.
    Not saying I agree with the outcome, but that's my guess on what happened.
    A hit list itself is a threat by definition.
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  • mace1229
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    edited April 2019
    HesCalledDyer said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/olganyc1211/status/1118381177558192133?s=21
    What would it take to call this nut job a terrorist 
    My guess (and that's all it is) is that it probably isn't illegal to have a hit list. I didn't see where he made any threats (unless you count the letter mentioned, but that might not have been specific enough, who knows). And a bunch of guns without any real threats and just a list of names amounts to illegal gun possession charges.  But he's facing 31 years of drugs and weapons charges.
    It would probably take a specific threat (time and place planned) to amount to terrorism, not just a racist letter and some names.
    Not saying I agree with the outcome, but that's my guess on what happened.
    A hit list itself is a threat by definition.
    sure, if his list was titled "people I will kill" followed by a list of names. But I believe the article just said it was a list of names (I think a spreadsheet of names actually), simply having a list of names I don't think would hold up as a hit list in court. I mean if thats all it takes I'll never carry around a list of names and addresses of people I'm mailing Christmas cards to.
    I'm not saying I agree with the outcome, but I could see how a DA could look at this and say terrorist charges wouldn't stick based on what I saw in the one article. Maybe there's more to it, and this is just my guess.
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