America's Gun Violence

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mrussel1 said:
    Just got a message from a high school friend that she's hiding from the active shooter at Medina hospital in Ohio.  
    Fuck. I hope she's OK. I guess this is so commonplace now that it doesn't even rate as "breaking news" on CNN. Front page shows nothing. Had to search to find articles on local news sites. The 3 reports I saw still say "possible", so maybe CNN is waiting for confirmation of an actual active shooter. Either way, super fucked up and way too prevalent.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just got a message from a high school friend that she's hiding from the active shooter at Medina hospital in Ohio.  
    Fuck. I hope she's OK. I guess this is so commonplace now that it doesn't even rate as "breaking news" on CNN. Front page shows nothing. Had to search to find articles on local news sites. The 3 reports I saw still say "possible", so maybe CNN is waiting for confirmation of an actual active shooter. Either way, super fucked up and way too prevalent.
    Nothing can be done.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just got a message from a high school friend that she's hiding from the active shooter at Medina hospital in Ohio.  
    Fuck. I hope she's OK. I guess this is so commonplace now that it doesn't even rate as "breaking news" on CNN. Front page shows nothing. Had to search to find articles on local news sites. The 3 reports I saw still say "possible", so maybe CNN is waiting for confirmation of an actual active shooter. Either way, super fucked up and way too prevalent.
    It's over I believe.  Turns out it was a woman in a medical office building threatening people with a gun.  I believe she has been detained.  https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2018/11/medina-hospital-placed-on-lockdown-as-officers-respond-to-scene.html
    No shots fired.
  • my2hands
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    Bentleyspop said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just got a message from a high school friend that she's hiding from the active shooter at Medina hospital in Ohio.  
    Thoughts and prayers 

    kind of a dick thing to say, no? someone here posts they have concerns that a friend is in a live situation with their life in danger and this is what you say?


    this shit is real, not a fucking game

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    my2hands said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just got a message from a high school friend that she's hiding from the active shooter at Medina hospital in Ohio.  
    Thoughts and prayers 

    kind of a dick thing to say, no? someone here posts they have concerns that a friend is in a live situation with their life in danger and this is what you say?


    this shit is real, not a fucking game

    Yeah, I don;t think that was thought through...but I don;t believe they meant to be mean.  To be honest, I had that same initial impression and then thought about it a bit and came to your conclusion before I posted anything.  Wait till it's over and see if people are safe and then joke about the joke that is American gun control.  Someone made a similar point back to me in the Fire thread that made me think more and I agree now, gotta get out of the danger to life 1st before the discussion.


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  • vaggar99
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
       
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    “Responsible” gun owners for how long? Over/under?

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    “Responsible” gun owners for how long? Over/under?

    https://apple.news/Ac4qkYZzaRZmRIpM-S9-YOg
    400 days.  Boss will be first to go from his gift or the child of one of his employees.

    Future thoughts and prayers.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    Bentleyspop said:


    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Another “responsible” gun owner.

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another “responsible” gun owner.

    https://apple.news/AM-RBWSw-RU-52s0iixDBCw
    Guns don't kill people, responsible owners kids kill younger kids.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another “responsible” gun owner.

    https://apple.news/AM-RBWSw-RU-52s0iixDBCw
    If only a good guy with a gun was there to prevent this.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    “Responsible” gun owners for how long? Over/under?

    https://apple.news/Ac4qkYZzaRZmRIpM-S9-YOg

    I love what Cletus says: “There are two things, I got two motivators,” Wolfgram said. “One, we thought it would be good for everybody’s safety to have a handgun in the home. And then also, it’s kind of fun. So we have company outings planned for going to the shooting range and this kind of thing.”

    He tosses the proverbial 'safety and protection' ditty in there, but adds the real motivation afterwards that you just can't justify by itself... havin' fun shootin' shit.

    Yee haw.
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    maybe I am just in a bad mood today but the truth is that many adults care more about their guns then they do kids. 
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    fife said:
    maybe I am just in a bad mood today but the truth is that many adults care more about their guns then they do kids. 
    That's cuz havin gunz is ther ryte 'n' protected by the cawnsta tooshin, havin kids ain't.  Hashtag 'Murica woo!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    "cawnsta tooshin". :lol:
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    HesCalledDyer said:
    fife said:
    maybe I am just in a bad mood today but the truth is that many adults care more about their guns then they do kids. 
    That's cuz havin gunz is ther ryte 'n' protected by the cawnsta tooshin, havin kids ain't.  Hashtag 'Murica woo!
    funny shit right there
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    “Responsible” gun owners for how long? Over/under?

    https://apple.news/Ac4qkYZzaRZmRIpM-S9-YOg

    I love what Cletus says: “There are two things, I got two motivators,” Wolfgram said. “One, we thought it would be good for everybody’s safety to have a handgun in the home. And then also, it’s kind of fun. So we have company outings planned for going to the shooting range and this kind of thing.”

    He tosses the proverbial 'safety and protection' ditty in there, but adds the real motivation afterwards that you just can't justify by itself... havin' fun shootin' shit.

    Yee haw.
    I'm only singling you out 30 because I feel I'll have the best shot getting a real answer.
    1. Do you really think most gun owners fit that stereotype? I didn't think the anti-gun crowd really believe that, but I am seriously questioning it since there are many in the anti-gun crowd who only refer to gun owners and redneck, inbreeds without teeth with an IQ of about 12.

    2. If you don't really believe that, then what is the point of continuing to reinforce that stereotype? Doesn't that just separate the 2 sides further, making compromise less likely to happen? If I really wanted change from a group, I wouldn't attack them and call them names every chance I get, then expect any sort of change.

    Its not offensive to me, but I guess you can say it is a pet peeve, and even more so that it is acceptable to stereotype a group. A group who mostly want change too, but is isolated by comments like that.
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