America's Gun Violence
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Really? That’s not how it displays when I click on the link, and I just looked at it again. Weird.njnancy said:
The first listing has the date of 11/2 which is in the future (nowadays I can't take facts for granted). It actually is connected to a shooting on 10/27.Halifax2TheMax said:
Huh?mace1229 said:
So who’s going to stop that shooting on 11/2, we now know exactly when and where it’s going to be!Halifax2TheMax said:
mace is being snarky. but that's a stupid mistake on the table.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
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We need insane asylums again. Remember those? We need to lock up these crazies, labotomize, and be able to congregate in public places and places of worship without fear.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0
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RoleModelsinBlood31 said:We need insane asylums again. Remember those? We need to lock up these crazies, labotomize, and be able to congregate in public places and places of worship without fear.
I don't think that anti-Semitism has ever been classified as a mental disorder.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Yes, it was just a joke. Looks like they fixed it.njnancy said:
The first listing has the date of 11/2 which is in the future (nowadays I can't take facts for granted). It actually is connected to a shooting on 10/27.Halifax2TheMax said:
Huh?mace1229 said:
So who’s going to stop that shooting on 11/2, we now know exactly when and where it’s going to be!Halifax2TheMax said:
mace is being snarky. but that's a stupid mistake on the table.0 -
Totally agree. I still think there’s a lot of crazies walking the streets out there though.oftenreading said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:We need insane asylums again. Remember those? We need to lock up these crazies, labotomize, and be able to congregate in public places and places of worship without fear.
I don't think that anti-Semitism has ever been classified as a mental disorder.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
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Why would someone think that it* (edited) was? *not implying you*oftenreading said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:We need insane asylums again. Remember those? We need to lock up these crazies, labotomize, and be able to congregate in public places and places of worship without fear.
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It appears most of our violent offenders from last week came from homes where "daddy didn't give attention".
Mr. Lowy said that Mr. Sayoc’s family members were Democrats and that Mr. Sayoc seemed to have no outspoken partisan views during the 2002 case. But he said that Mr. Trump’s angry rhetoric and his appeals to the “forgotten man and woman” during the 2016 campaign seemed to strike a deep chord with Mr. Sayoc, whose father had abandoned the family when he was a child.
“He was looking for some type of parental figure and being a loner, being an outcast, being the kind of person Trump speaks to, I think he was attracted to Trump as a father figure,” Mr. Lowy said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/us/cesar-altieri-sayoc-bomber.html
I thought I'd also heard some where that the Pittsburgh shooter (who I refuse to mention by name) came from a home where there was a lack of a father figure, but I can't find anything to back that up so it may be speculation at this point.
If I remember correctly, we went off on this tangent a while back and the role of broken families as one of the more common factors in predicting future violent behavior. It is just one of many pieces to the puzzle, but does seems to be more common than not.
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Fatal school shooting in North Carolina today. The school had an armed security guard, but one student still died of gunshot injuries.
The school resumed classes shortly after the accused was apprehended. They are getting a lot of criticism for this, but state that it was done to keep students "safe" in class. I hope that the classes offered support and time to get deal with the shock, and not a big dose of academics.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/butler-high-school-shooting_us_5bd72dece4b0d38b5886451d
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That's fucking insane. I'm with the parent who tweeted that they crossed the 'line' and demanded their kid - I would have done the same thing. 'A bullying incident that went too far' - ya think? Jesus Christ, what the hell is wrong with that school. It was updated that there is no school tomorrow and Wednesday and that they are now offering counselors but to make the kids and teachers stay for the school day is in no way a security move. It is the normalization of gun violence. God help this generation of children.oftenreading said:Fatal school shooting in North Carolina today. The school had an armed security guard, but one student still died of gunshot injuries.
The school resumed classes shortly after the accused was apprehended. They are getting a lot of criticism for this, but state that it was done to keep students "safe" in class. I hope that the classes offered support and time to get deal with the shock, and not a big dose of academics.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/butler-high-school-shooting_us_5bd72dece4b0d38b5886451d0 -
This just makes me more concerned about my son. Fuck.tbergs said:It appears most of our violent offenders from last week came from homes where "daddy didn't give attention".Mr. Lowy said that Mr. Sayoc’s family members were Democrats and that Mr. Sayoc seemed to have no outspoken partisan views during the 2002 case. But he said that Mr. Trump’s angry rhetoric and his appeals to the “forgotten man and woman” during the 2016 campaign seemed to strike a deep chord with Mr. Sayoc, whose father had abandoned the family when he was a child.
“He was looking for some type of parental figure and being a loner, being an outcast, being the kind of person Trump speaks to, I think he was attracted to Trump as a father figure,” Mr. Lowy said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/us/cesar-altieri-sayoc-bomber.html
I thought I'd also heard some where that the Pittsburgh shooter (who I refuse to mention by name) came from a home where there was a lack of a father figure, but I can't find anything to back that up so it may be speculation at this point.
If I remember correctly, we went off on this tangent a while back and the role of broken families as one of the more common factors in predicting future violent behavior. It is just one of many pieces to the puzzle, but does seems to be more common than not.
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I'm not sure if I agree with that decision or not, but it isn't as bad as the title implies.oftenreading said:Fatal school shooting in North Carolina today. The school had an armed security guard, but one student still died of gunshot injuries.
The school resumed classes shortly after the accused was apprehended. They are getting a lot of criticism for this, but state that it was done to keep students "safe" in class. I hope that the classes offered support and time to get deal with the shock, and not a big dose of academics.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/butler-high-school-shooting_us_5bd72dece4b0d38b5886451d
Yes, they held classes, but parents were notified and encouraged to pick their kids up. This was done because transportation was not available and they did not want kids roaming the neighborhoods and starting new things up who didn't have a way to get home.
It's not like the school just said "shooting's over, everyone back to class." They encouraged parents to pick up their kids, according to the article only very few remained on campus. And the logic makes sense, something like this happens and you just released kids, there is a good chance something else will happen.
According to the article it looked like they had 2 options. Release students and risk something else happened to unsupervised students. Often times one fight will start an after-shock of fights in response. Or to keep students under supervision and safe.
I can guarantee you not 1 teacher held a "class" after this with any meaningful expectations. But maybe there were other options not considered that would have been better. Maybe evacuating then releasing students or something. But I do believe this was 100% with safety in mind.
As a teacher we've had similar days. Not for violence, but an unexpected storm or something rolls in. They notify parents to please come pick up their kids asap (which is what it sounds like they did here), but we still hold "classes" for those who cant. We can't just close school and tell kids "good luck." It ends up being about 3 or 4 kids in a class and we just show some Disney movie. I'm guessing that is close to what happened.0 -
Bodes well for our future.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/health/generation-z-stress-report-trnd/index.html
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