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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    I don't really understand what the point of this one is.... To show everyone how dumb some gun rights nuts are when it comes to the topic of technological advancement??
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    What about my posted response is incorrect? Or would lead you to believe that I'm a gun expert or conversely, don't possess a minimum understanding of the issue?
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    So, in where on reddit do you hang and find these boring memes?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
    What, the sharing of blueprint information?  I agree that people should not be printing them due to the risks of, but how do you restrict the sharing of information online without implications regarding the 1st Amendment, or does the 1st Ammendment not protect online sharing of information?  I think it is going to be complicated to get this all blocked.  

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
    What, the sharing of blueprint information?  I agree that people should not be printing them due to the risks of, but how do you restrict the sharing of information online without implications regarding the 1st Amendment, or does the 1st Ammendment not protect online sharing of information?  I think it is going to be complicated to get this all blocked.  

    No, as I've said a few times already, the actual printing of the things should be illegal, and that is why I also suggested that 3D printers should be built so that they cannot print guns at all - I feel that some kind of software could be created to achieve that.
    As for free sharing of info.... of course that's very important... there are limits obviously. Sharing child porn or snuff films is illegal for example. Or classified information. The freedom to share info isn't a blanket concept that includes literally all info. However, if bomb making instructions are legal, then I would think gun blueprints would have to be too.... Although I don't know the legality of that when it comes to essentially programming computers to do things ... maybe there is no law for that yet, which is why this issue is important to consider carefully.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    What *finger quotes* "responsible member" of our well-regulated militia came up with this?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    edited August 2018
    HesCalledDyer said:
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    What *finger quotes* "responsible member" of our well-regulated militia came up with this?
    I think it Is funny as hell. This one is all over Facebook. And FYI, the safety is on.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
    What, the sharing of blueprint information?  I agree that people should not be printing them due to the risks of, but how do you restrict the sharing of information online without implications regarding the 1st Amendment, or does the 1st Ammendment not protect online sharing of information?  I think it is going to be complicated to get this all blocked.  

    No, as I've said a few times already, the actual printing of the things should be illegal, and that is why I also suggested that 3D printers should be built so that they cannot print guns at all - I feel that some kind of software could be created to achieve that.
    I’m not sure what the technicalities of preventing 3D printers from printing whatever blueprints you entered, so I cannot comment on whether that might be a viable option.  But from the legal information standpoint, it could be a very difficult battle: 
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/why-the-legal-battle-over-3d-printed-guns-may-prove-futile/ar-BBLnya1

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
    What, the sharing of blueprint information?  I agree that people should not be printing them due to the risks of, but how do you restrict the sharing of information online without implications regarding the 1st Amendment, or does the 1st Ammendment not protect online sharing of information?  I think it is going to be complicated to get this all blocked.  

    No, as I've said a few times already, the actual printing of the things should be illegal, and that is why I also suggested that 3D printers should be built so that they cannot print guns at all - I feel that some kind of software could be created to achieve that.
    I’m not sure what the technicalities of preventing 3D printers from printing whatever blueprints you entered, so I cannot comment on whether that might be a viable option.  But from the legal information standpoint, it could be a very difficult battle: 
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/why-the-legal-battle-over-3d-printed-guns-may-prove-futile/ar-BBLnya1

    Yes, it's definitely a difficult situation. I think if it weren't it wouldn't be such a big deal! :)
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    mcgruff10 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    What *finger quotes* "responsible member" of our well-regulated militia came up with this?
    I think it Is funny as hell. This one is all over Facebook. And FYI, the safety is on.  
    Says more about what kind of people you chose to befriend on facebook and what groups you're part of - than it being funny.

    Looks like something Ted Nugent would tweet.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    What *finger quotes* "responsible member" of our well-regulated militia came up with this?
    I think it Is funny as hell. This one is all over Facebook. And FYI, the safety is on.  
    Says more about what kind of people you chose to befriend on facebook and what groups you're part of - than it being funny.

    Looks like something Ted Nugent would tweet.
    Yes captain, I know it is shocking but some of my friends are pro second amendment and I do like some gun groups. So it isn’t really suprising that some people and groups posted this meme. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Im glad our pro-gun crowd can yuck it up because people can now PRINT A FUCKING GUN. Isnt that just wonderful? Woohoo, America figured out how to kill more people, YAY!!! Go team, go


  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    cincybearcat said:
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Have you seen the pro-gun crowd? The only thing lower than collective IQ is the total number of teeth.

    so anything that makes it easy for these idiots to have a device designed to kill and that can avoid detection is a concern of mine. Cause it means they have to think less. The good news is these idiots don’t make enough to buy a 3d printer....but if they get together and put their $ together, we all have a lot to worry about.
    Glad you don’t stereotype.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,155
    mace1229 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Have you seen the pro-gun crowd? The only thing lower than collective IQ is the total number of teeth.

    so anything that makes it easy for these idiots to have a device designed to kill and that can avoid detection is a concern of mine. Cause it means they have to think less. The good news is these idiots don’t make enough to buy a 3d printer....but if they get together and put their $ together, we all have a lot to worry about.
    Glad you don’t stereotype.
    Didn’t you vote for the stereotyper in Chief, Team Trump Treason? 
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  • mace1229
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    edited August 2018
    Can someone fill me in this.
    My assumption is that 3D printers can only print parts. Seems impossible to print a functioning gun with moving parts. 
    That would make printing something like an AR-15 extremely difficult. Yes there are blue prints and directions, but that’s like putting together a Ford F-150 from a bucket of parts and making a functioning engine.
    I do think printing guns should be illegal, but anyone who thinks gun owners are toothless low-intelligent people have nothing to worry about then.
    My guess is only very trained people who already own lots of guns anyway would be able to do this.
    So my point, while I think it should be illegal, I just don’t see it as being a big factor to the gun problem.
  • dignin
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    The NRA Says It’s in Deep Financial Trouble, May Be ‘Unable to Exist’

    A new legal filing by the powerful gun group against the state of New York paints a grim picture

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/nra-financial-trouble-706371/
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,155
    edited August 2018
    dignin said:

    The NRA Says It’s in Deep Financial Trouble, May Be ‘Unable to Exist’

    A new legal filing by the powerful gun group against the state of New York paints a grim picture

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/nra-financial-trouble-706371/
    A ruse for donations? Or an explanation for why they’ve accepted money from Russian oligarchs and  and donated to campaigns targeting very specific districts in key states?                                                        
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