America's Gun Violence

Smellyman

tbergs said:

Smellyman said:

Meltdown99 said:

Give todays youth a rotary phone ... then tell me who had it rougher.

Or a library card

These are both extremely ignorant and pointless examples. What does either have to do with how tough youth today have it? Technology advanced. I think Thirty made a great argument.

and just a joke.  I agree with Thirty.

Sheesh settle down

tbergs

Smellyman said:

tbergs said:

Smellyman said:

Meltdown99 said:

Give todays youth a rotary phone ... then tell me who had it rougher.

Or a library card

These are both extremely ignorant and pointless examples. What does either have to do with how tough youth today have it? Technology advanced. I think Thirty made a great argument.

and just a joke.  I agree with Thirty.

Sheesh settle down

Didn't know I was unsettled. Just making a counter point and didn't catch the sarcasm, and I don't think I was the only one. No worries. If I was unsettled i would have copied our fearless leader and used ALL CAPS and !!! to convey my anger

Halifax2TheMax

tbergs said:

Smellyman said:

tbergs said:

Smellyman said:

Meltdown99 said:

Give todays youth a rotary phone ... then tell me who had it rougher.

Or a library card

These are both extremely ignorant and pointless examples. What does either have to do with how tough youth today have it? Technology advanced. I think Thirty made a great argument.

and just a joke.  I agree with Thirty.

Sheesh settle down

Didn't know I was unsettled. Just making a counter point and didn't catch the sarcasm, and I don't think I was the only one. No worries. If I was unsettled i would have copied our fearless leader and used ALL CAPS and !!! to convey my anger

WITCH HUNT!

Meltdown99

Smellyman said:

Meltdown99 said:

Give todays youth a rotary phone ... then tell me who had it rougher.

Or a library card

True...

cincybearcat

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The daily pressures kids face are different than what we dealt with.

For one... social media has impacted our youth more than can be measured. There's a reason behind heightened levels of anxiety and depression in our youth.

For another... look at starting wages and look at the cost of cars, houses, concert tix, whatever. My first jobs as a busboy, cook, waiter and bartender all allowed me to pay rent and do things.

Look at the costs of university and the competitiveness for getting into programs. Some guys that got into- say- pharmacy 25 years ago would not be able to do so this era.

I could go on, but I won't.

Cincy... if you feel you were brought up in the tough era... you're free to think that. I don't feel the same way.

No i dont think my era was tougher.  I think almost all have their own hardships. I certainly don’t think today’s youth have it hard at all and I think it’s 100% bs line of thinking.  

The social media aspect is something that is New a tough, but pretty low unemployment is pretty nice. As is having parents willing I have you live with them if need be. I think it’s different, but not tougher.

I think you haven't thought this out fully. This is the classic 'we walked uphill both ways to school in my day' mentality. You're not acknowledging the obvious.

The 'obvious' is as follows: wages have not kept up with inflation. Housing prices are astronomical while crappy cars that used to be $10,000 are now $20,000. Gas prices. Hydro prices. Food prices. Entertainment prices... everything prices.

If you never got into the housing market when things were reasonable (our era)... it's going to be extremely challenging to get in now and have any kind of life.

Let alone all the other stuff.

We had it easier than this generation.  

Who the fuck said anything about waking up hill both ways? You are projecting bs on me to try and make your point seem valid.  

Huh?

What a weird thing to say. I said it (obviously). I expressed it to speak of the mentality that bemoans the youth sector without acknowledging their challenges- which you have tried to minimize.

My point is valid. And not only is it valid... it's correct.

You keep trying to say that I said my era was tougher.  Never said it.  All I said was todays youth do not have it tougher.  Each one has it's own unique issues.

josevolution

Today’s kids have it tougher specially school kids , heck they have to go to school with the thought of when will my school get shot up ! In the 70’s when I was in High school the most I had to worry about was when I would get suspended or get into a fist fight ..

cincybearcat

Ok since we are going to keep this up...

Tougher for kids today
1) School violence
2) 24-hr social media
3) Someone mentioned wages vs inflation
4) Price of college?

Easier for kids today
1) 24hr access to all kinds of information from their phone
2) Low unemployment rate
3) Colleges and University on campus life (facilities/opportunities)
4) Ever more involved Parents willing for their kids to live with them into their 30's while they save

I'll say this - for any kid that doesn't have access to college or trade school or the like....things have gotten tougher.  For those that do, while expensive, things are easier in a lot of ways.  The  fine life between tough and easy is probably colored by the kids experience with social media and the internet as a whole.  It can make life SOOOOOOO much easier for them, but for some it will make it 24/7 pain.  All in all, I still think they don;t have it tougher today...just different.  

PJPOWER

josevolution said:

Today’s kids have it tougher specially school kids , heck they have to go to school with the thought of when will my school get shot up ! In the 70’s when I was in High school the most I had to worry about was when I would get suspended or get into a fist fight ..

Or that you might get sent to Vietnam to play tag with the Viet Cong?

mcgruff10

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

Today’s kids have it tougher specially school kids , heck they have to go to school with the thought of when will my school get shot up ! In the 70’s when I was in High school the most I had to worry about was when I would get suspended or get into a fist fight ..

Or that you might get sent to Vietnam to play tag with the Viet Cong?

My dad almost played tag with Charlie.  Good times. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

Today’s kids have it tougher specially school kids , heck they have to go to school with the thought of when will my school get shot up ! In the 70’s when I was in High school the most I had to worry about was when I would get suspended or get into a fist fight ..

Or that you might get sent to Vietnam to play tag with the Viet Cong?

My dad almost played tag with Charlie.  Good times. 

Good times being part of one of all of the US unjust wars!

PJPOWER

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

Today’s kids have it tougher specially school kids , heck they have to go to school with the thought of when will my school get shot up ! In the 70’s when I was in High school the most I had to worry about was when I would get suspended or get into a fist fight ..

Or that you might get sent to Vietnam to play tag with the Viet Cong?

My dad almost played tag with Charlie.  Good times. 

Oh yeah?  I’m betting he had it easy compared to today’s youth, lol

unsung

Yeah, today’s youth have it sooooo tough.  Bunch of whiners.

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

Yeah, today’s youth have it sooooo tough.  Bunch of whiners.

Pot meet kettle.

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

Today’s kids have it tougher specially school kids , heck they have to go to school with the thought of when will my school get shot up ! In the 70’s when I was in High school the most I had to worry about was when I would get suspended or get into a fist fight ..

Or that you might get sent to Vietnam to play tag with the Viet Cong?

My dad almost played tag with Charlie.  Good times. 

Good times being part of one of all of the US unjust wars!

Yeah he got drafted obviously post tet so approval for the war was in the gutter.  I give my dad credit, he didn't bitch, he went to basic training and luckily got in the National Guard days before his unit went to South Vietnam.  

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The daily pressures kids face are different than what we dealt with.

For one... social media has impacted our youth more than can be measured. There's a reason behind heightened levels of anxiety and depression in our youth.

For another... look at starting wages and look at the cost of cars, houses, concert tix, whatever. My first jobs as a busboy, cook, waiter and bartender all allowed me to pay rent and do things.

Look at the costs of university and the competitiveness for getting into programs. Some guys that got into- say- pharmacy 25 years ago would not be able to do so this era.

I could go on, but I won't.

Cincy... if you feel you were brought up in the tough era... you're free to think that. I don't feel the same way.

No i dont think my era was tougher.  I think almost all have their own hardships. I certainly don’t think today’s youth have it hard at all and I think it’s 100% bs line of thinking.  

The social media aspect is something that is New a tough, but pretty low unemployment is pretty nice. As is having parents willing I have you live with them if need be. I think it’s different, but not tougher.

I don't know about where you live, but if we're talking about finances and what you can do with your hard work and money, and how able you are to take care of yourself independently, I can absolutely guarantee you that younger people have it WAY WAY WAY harder where I live than our generation did. I mean, everyone of all ages has it way harder here, but especially the younger gens, because their work simply does not get them what it used to get people. The cost of living vs. salaries is simply completely fucking out of wack now. BC actually has the lowest unemployment rate in the entire country.... but has the worst salary vs cost of living stats on the entire continent. Obviously that is a serious hardship above and beyond any that people had 20 and 30 years ago in terms of what they can do with their hard work. So maybe youth don't have it hard in your world... They sure do in mine.

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The daily pressures kids face are different than what we dealt with.

For one... social media has impacted our youth more than can be measured. There's a reason behind heightened levels of anxiety and depression in our youth.

For another... look at starting wages and look at the cost of cars, houses, concert tix, whatever. My first jobs as a busboy, cook, waiter and bartender all allowed me to pay rent and do things.

Look at the costs of university and the competitiveness for getting into programs. Some guys that got into- say- pharmacy 25 years ago would not be able to do so this era.

I could go on, but I won't.

Cincy... if you feel you were brought up in the tough era... you're free to think that. I don't feel the same way.

No i dont think my era was tougher.  I think almost all have their own hardships. I certainly don’t think today’s youth have it hard at all and I think it’s 100% bs line of thinking.  

The social media aspect is something that is New a tough, but pretty low unemployment is pretty nice. As is having parents willing I have you live with them if need be. I think it’s different, but not tougher.

I don't know about where you live, but if we're talking about finances and what you can do with your hard work and money, and how able you are to take care of yourself independently, I can absolutely guarantee you that younger people have it WAY WAY WAY harder where I live than our generation did. I mean, everyone of all ages has it way harder here, but especially the younger gens, because their work simply does not get them what it used to get people. The cost of living vs. salaries is simply completely fucking out of wack now. BC actually has the lowest unemployment rate in the entire country.... but has the worst salary vs cost of living stats on the entire continent. Obviously that is a serious hardship above and beyond any that people had 20 and 30 years ago in terms of what they can do with their hard work. So maybe youth don't have it hard in your world... They sure do in mine.

Unsurprisingly your world sucks.

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The daily pressures kids face are different than what we dealt with.

For one... social media has impacted our youth more than can be measured. There's a reason behind heightened levels of anxiety and depression in our youth.

For another... look at starting wages and look at the cost of cars, houses, concert tix, whatever. My first jobs as a busboy, cook, waiter and bartender all allowed me to pay rent and do things.

Look at the costs of university and the competitiveness for getting into programs. Some guys that got into- say- pharmacy 25 years ago would not be able to do so this era.

I could go on, but I won't.

Cincy... if you feel you were brought up in the tough era... you're free to think that. I don't feel the same way.

No i dont think my era was tougher.  I think almost all have their own hardships. I certainly don’t think today’s youth have it hard at all and I think it’s 100% bs line of thinking.  

The social media aspect is something that is New a tough, but pretty low unemployment is pretty nice. As is having parents willing I have you live with them if need be. I think it’s different, but not tougher.

I don't know about where you live, but if we're talking about finances and what you can do with your hard work and money, and how able you are to take care of yourself independently, I can absolutely guarantee you that younger people have it WAY WAY WAY harder where I live than our generation did. I mean, everyone of all ages has it way harder here, but especially the younger gens, because their work simply does not get them what it used to get people. The cost of living vs. salaries is simply completely fucking out of wack now. BC actually has the lowest unemployment rate in the entire country.... but has the worst salary vs cost of living stats on the entire continent. Obviously that is a serious hardship above and beyond any that people had 20 and 30 years ago in terms of what they can do with their hard work. So maybe youth don't have it hard in your world... They sure do in mine.

Unsurprisingly your world sucks.

What the hell is that supposed to mean???

cincybearcat

And again people continue to fail at reading comprehension. It isn't hard....but it seems it is far to often.  I never said they had it easy....I said they don't have it harder.  Each generation has their own hardship issues.  And the ones during WW had it by far the worst.  The rest have some good and some bad.

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

And again people continue to fail at reading comprehension. It isn't hard....but it seems it is far to often.  I never said they had it easy....I said they don't have it harder.  Each generation has their own hardship issues.  And the ones during WW had it by far the worst.  The rest have some good and some bad.

I haven't failed in my comprehension at all - I know you didn't say they have it easy, but you did specifically say, "I certainly don’t think today’s youth have it hard at all and I think it’s 100% bs line of thinking." That is what I was responding to.
Again, what did that "unsurprisingly" comment mean???

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

And again people continue to fail at reading comprehension. It isn't hard....but it seems it is far to often.  I never said they had it easy....I said they don't have it harder.  Each generation has their own hardship issues.  And the ones during WW had it by far the worst.  The rest have some good and some bad.

I haven't failed in my comprehension at all - I know you didn't say they have it easy, but you did specifically say, "I certainly don’t think today’s youth have it hard at all and I think it’s 100% bs line of thinking." That is what I was responding to.
Again, what did that "unsurprisingly" comment mean???

The unsurprisingly comment was just a joke to say your world sucks since it's hard for youth there