And besides being a Cliven Bundy fan, Miller .... also liked the NRA, had pictures of open-carriers at Chipotle, loved the Paul Family (Rand and Ron), and was a fan of “Three Percenter Nation”—which advocates for “no compromise, no surrender.”
With those red flags how could anyone miss?
What a joke.
jeez, seems I struck a nerve there, huh? wasn't personal
You didn't write it, I'm not taking it personal. I find that authors that do that sort of thing to be pretty radical in their own beliefs, yet are quick to point out the other side and try to prove just how nutty they are.
I'm pro-gun, anti-tax, pro-Paul (more Ron than Rand), does that make me someone who would do this sort of thing? The author would prefer you belief so.
You didn't write it, I'm not taking it personal. I find that authors that do that sort of thing to be pretty radical in their own beliefs, yet are quick to point out the other side and try to prove just how nutty they are.
I'm pro-gun, anti-tax, pro-Paul (more Ron than Rand), does that make me someone who would do this sort of thing? The author would prefer you belief so.
Nope, doesn't mean you'd do anything like that. If the author was implying that these were red flags I didn't really take it that way. I think most people are interested in what motivated the violence. Extreme view or not, I completely agree with him that the NRA has played a role in stirring up gullible glory-seeking nutjobs like Miller. Then when there's a tragedy they stand back shaking their heads saying "guy was mentally ill, not one of us." Remember, the NRA often (not always) lobbies hard against mental health legislation that would help keep guns out of the hands of people like this.
A psychiatrist should be making that determination. In crisis situations (i.e. Elliott Rodgers) a mental health evaluation hold (24-72 hours) is a way to get the person evaluated. NRA just lobbied against making the evaluation hold process slightly quicker/easier in CO.
Maybe we should forget psychiatrists and just let the NRA decide on good vs bad mental health.... They're so quick to insert themselves in these issues, they must be the experts.
I'm pro-gun, anti-tax, pro-Paul (more Ron than Rand), does that make me someone who would do this sort of thing? The author would prefer you belief so.
... Question: Do you have or are you in the process of writing a Manifesto? If Not... then, are you planning on writing a Manifesto?
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Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I'm pro-gun, anti-tax, pro-Paul (more Ron than Rand), does that make me someone who would do this sort of thing? The author would prefer you belief so.
... Question: Do you have or are you in the process of writing a Manifesto? If Not... then, are you planning on writing a Manifesto?
A psychiatrist should be making that determination. In crisis situations (i.e. Elliott Rodgers) a mental health evaluation hold (24-72 hours) is a way to get the person evaluated. NRA just lobbied against making the evaluation hold process slightly quicker/easier in CO.
Maybe we should forget psychiatrists and just let the NRA decide on good vs bad mental health.... They're so quick to insert themselves in these issues, they must be the experts.
That is certified and licensed by a government body. What if that government body re-writes laws that violates that doctor's ethical oath?
I'm pro-gun, anti-tax, pro-Paul (more Ron than Rand), does that make me someone who would do this sort of thing? The author would prefer you belief so.
... Question: Do you have or are you in the process of writing a Manifesto? If Not... then, are you planning on writing a Manifesto?
I tend to rant a little often...
... That's okay... we all need to rant from time to time. ... But, please, let us know if you ever decide to write a rambling, 517 page anti-Government manifesto outlining the crimes against us and The Constitution they've committed as well as a blueprint for the violent overthrow of the government to be replaced by a 'Counsel of Knowledge', headed by heavily armed Patriot farmers and auto mechanics who loosely govern the isolated armed compounds scattered throughout nation. I'd like to read that.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Sometimes, just sometimes, I think about what it would be like to live away from it all. No internet, no TV, not on the grid, just self-sustaining, peace and quiet. If I bring it up in conversation the next question I'm usually asked is if I want to live in the mountains in a cabin like the Unabomber. WTF? Just because I don't want to conform to what society deems is normal that's the response I get?
What if I just really don't want to deal with high electric bills, high grocery prices, high gas prices, brain draining reality TV, or listening to cars drive down the street all day?
I find it really odd that people can't break out of the Matrix.
Sometimes, just sometimes, I think about what it would be like to live away from it all. No internet, no TV, not on the grid, just self-sustaining, peace and quiet. If I bring it up in conversation the next question I'm usually asked is if I want to live in the mountains in a cabin like the Unabomber. WTF? Just because I don't want to conform to what society deems is normal that's the response I get?
What if I just really don't want to deal with high electric bills, high grocery prices, high gas prices, brain draining reality TV, or listening to cars drive down the street all day?
I find it really odd that people can't break out of the Matrix.
i live in the country with no cable and a flip phone (one of the first internet capable ones, if you can call it that) as my only access to the web. This site is the only one I have the patience to visit on this dinosaur turd of a phone... I dont hear cars go by, nobody gets shot out here EVER, and the vegtables grow from the ground sweet and luscious. Go for it Unsung, people arent meant to live all citified, we belong on the ground with the wind in our hair and earth at our toes.
Sometimes, just sometimes, I think about what it would be like to live away from it all. No internet, no TV, not on the grid, just self-sustaining, peace and quiet. If I bring it up in conversation the next question I'm usually asked is if I want to live in the mountains in a cabin like the Unabomber. WTF? Just because I don't want to conform to what society deems is normal that's the response I get?
What if I just really don't want to deal with high electric bills, high grocery prices, high gas prices, brain draining reality TV, or listening to cars drive down the street all day?
I find it really odd that people can't break out of the Matrix.
... You can do that. The problem is, you are STILL in the United States and you STILL need to abide by Federal, State, County and City laws. Everything you mentioned (Internet, Television, Electricity) were utility services. You would STILL be liable for taxes and any local requirements, such as building permits, fishing licenses and hunting permits. As long as these mountains you speak of are within the borders of the United States of America and you abide to all of the laws currently on the books... pay your taxes, obtain proper licenses and permits... there is not a problem. ... That's typically where the whole, UnaBomber thing comes in. People that are likely to do that have their own interpretation of our Constitution. That's nice, but, that's not correct. We all have to go by the written laws based on our Supreme Courts interpretation of our Constitution. When people don't want to accept our Constitution (because the typically have their own interpretation), they usually feel the government is going to come and get them... which the law enforcement branch of government should, if they are violation written statutes, local or Federal. That's when the Manifestos, stockpile of guns and booby trap I.E.D.s come into play. ... So, you can see how easy it is to draw a parallel.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Sometimes, just sometimes, I think about what it would be like to live away from it all. No internet, no TV, not on the grid, just self-sustaining, peace and quiet. If I bring it up in conversation the next question I'm usually asked is if I want to live in the mountains in a cabin like the Unabomber. WTF? Just because I don't want to conform to what society deems is normal that's the response I get?
What if I just really don't want to deal with high electric bills, high grocery prices, high gas prices, brain draining reality TV, or listening to cars drive down the street all day?
I find it really odd that people can't break out of the Matrix.
Wow! Didn't think it was possible but we have something in common. Here's what I posted in another thread and the response. Check it out if you didn't know about it:
This made me laugh heartily! One of the reasons I come on the forums everyday. There's always a good laugh to be had!
I think everyone tends to mellow as they age. Maybe because we become more accepting? Of ourselves, our lot in life, realization life is getting shorter, prioritizing what's important? And like Unsung, I too sometimes wish I could buy 60 acres, build a cabin smack dab in the middle and watch nature a la Emerson or that guy who lived in Yosemite or Glacier all alone for 30 years (awesome PBS documentary on him) and just be chill. Maybe someday. One can dream, right? I totally recommend disconnecting every once in a while. No news, no tweets, Instagram, email, radio, TV, etc. You find that you can live and be happy without knowing all the bullshit. Be in the moment.
Peace.
Agree with mellowing with age. I have no desire to argue or fight like I used to. Even here years ago I would get caught up. Now I'm interested in hearing opinions and points of view, and forming or changing my own perceptions, but I don't care much about trying to "win" arguments. I do love to read the posts here. Some are thought-provoking, some frustrating, some funny. But they all help provide perspective and context. So thanks to everyone who posts here.
And Halifax, Dick Proenneke is the PBS guy you were mentioning. One of my heros! If anyone hasn't seen his Alone in the Wilderness films you owe it to yourself.
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I'm pro-gun, anti-tax, pro-Paul (more Ron than Rand), does that make me someone who would do this sort of thing? The author would prefer you belief so.
Maybe we should forget psychiatrists and just let the NRA decide on good vs bad mental health.... They're so quick to insert themselves in these issues, they must be the experts.
Question: Do you have or are you in the process of writing a Manifesto?
If Not... then, are you planning on writing a Manifesto?
Hail, Hail!!!
Hail, Hail!!!
"So there you have it. The NRA staff is armed, while visitors are disarmed."
I tend to rant a little often...
That's okay... we all need to rant from time to time.
...
But, please, let us know if you ever decide to write a rambling, 517 page anti-Government manifesto outlining the crimes against us and The Constitution they've committed as well as a blueprint for the violent overthrow of the government to be replaced by a 'Counsel of Knowledge', headed by heavily armed Patriot farmers and auto mechanics who loosely govern the isolated armed compounds scattered throughout nation.
I'd like to read that.
Hail, Hail!!!
What if I just really don't want to deal with high electric bills, high grocery prices, high gas prices, brain draining reality TV, or listening to cars drive down the street all day?
I find it really odd that people can't break out of the Matrix.
You can do that.
The problem is, you are STILL in the United States and you STILL need to abide by Federal, State, County and City laws. Everything you mentioned (Internet, Television, Electricity) were utility services. You would STILL be liable for taxes and any local requirements, such as building permits, fishing licenses and hunting permits. As long as these mountains you speak of are within the borders of the United States of America and you abide to all of the laws currently on the books... pay your taxes, obtain proper licenses and permits... there is not a problem.
...
That's typically where the whole, UnaBomber thing comes in. People that are likely to do that have their own interpretation of our Constitution. That's nice, but, that's not correct. We all have to go by the written laws based on our Supreme Courts interpretation of our Constitution.
When people don't want to accept our Constitution (because the typically have their own interpretation), they usually feel the government is going to come and get them... which the law enforcement branch of government should, if they are violation written statutes, local or Federal.
That's when the Manifestos, stockpile of guns and booby trap I.E.D.s come into play.
...
So, you can see how easy it is to draw a parallel.
Hail, Hail!!!
This made me laugh heartily! One of the reasons I come on the forums everyday. There's always a good laugh to be had!
I think everyone tends to mellow as they age. Maybe because we become more accepting? Of ourselves, our lot in life, realization life is getting shorter, prioritizing what's important? And like Unsung, I too sometimes wish I could buy 60 acres, build a cabin smack dab in the middle and watch nature a la Emerson or that guy who lived in Yosemite or Glacier all alone for 30 years (awesome PBS documentary on him) and just be chill. Maybe someday. One can dream, right? I totally recommend disconnecting every once in a while. No news, no tweets, Instagram, email, radio, TV, etc. You find that you can live and be happy without knowing all the bullshit. Be in the moment.
Peace.
Agree with mellowing with age. I have no desire to argue or fight like I used to. Even here years ago I would get caught up. Now I'm interested in hearing opinions and points of view, and forming or changing my own perceptions, but I don't care much about trying to "win" arguments. I do love to read the posts here. Some are thought-provoking, some frustrating, some funny. But they all help provide perspective and context. So thanks to everyone who posts here.
And Halifax, Dick Proenneke is the PBS guy you were mentioning. One of my heros! If anyone hasn't seen his Alone in the Wilderness films you owe it to yourself.
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Peace.
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