How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?
Mine is 145xxx - member since '95, and Analog since they started it. I've already turned off my auto-renew and will be leaving the fan club when it comes up for renewal in May - not even staying digital. It's not just because of the taking away of the annual single (that we get every couple of years if we're lucky), or the latest "lack of news"letter. It's been a long time coming, and these were just the final nails in the coffin.
They haven't played my city (Las Vegas) in over 12 years and the last show I was able to travel to was L.A. in 2013; can't really afford to, nor would I want to plunk down thousands of dollars to travel to "destination" shows at baseball stadiums; the only thing the "website" really is anymore is a web store where they continue to sell overpriced merchandise, yet don't deliver items which we've paid for as a part of our membership for YEARS afterward; there's been more new vinyl for sale on PEARL JAM's store lately from other bands than PEARL JAM (I thought I signed up for PEARL JAM'S fan club?); the member t-shirts are beyond poor - material is garbage and no creativity or effort in the design whatsoever; no communication about anything, shipping is a joke, and customer service is at an all-time low.
I really dig a lot of the recent side projects and solo material various members have done over the last few years. There is just nothing Pearl Jam is doing in the last several years that excites me anymore, musically or otherwise. Whereas I used to lose my shit whenever I saw the slightest blurb about Pearl Jam in a Rolling Stone magazine, or some kind of mysterious post in the old "Rumor Pit', or a cool, surprise newsletter in the mail with some sort of engaging activity or cool collectible - Pearl Jam isn't really much more than an afterthought anymore, and a band I rarely even talk about anymore when discussing music. I get more excited seeing local bands at my local venues tearing it up, than I do at these big, overpriced, greatest hits arena shows. I'll most likely continue to buy their new studio albums when (IF) they release anything further, and when (IF) they come near my city again, maybe try for general tickets via public sale, but that's all I can muster anymore. It's been a great ride for 27+ years though, and I don't regret any of it. At this point, I know I've seen them in their prime, have been a part of some great things over the years, and have great memories, but the last few years have been a pretty good indicator of where this band is headed, and I'll just keep my $20-$40 and spend it on a few records.
As stated previously, this.
i traveled to Europe this summer even going back to the canceled London show where I ended up 2nd row center stage (closest I’ve ever been) with Ed shaking my hand when he came to the rail. I’m not sure there are any more moments/experiences like this after 24 years of shows; that may be the pinnacle.
I’ve always been digital as I’m not into collecting. I will allow the renew one more time next month, but if there isn’t new music or a tour that includes more than stadiums, I’m not sure I’ll keep going with the membership; nostalgia can only go so far, and as stated above, which I didn’t even realize until I read it, I don’t talk about them much any more either.
On on the other hand, if a new album drops, and we get a more inclusive tour, game on!
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Thank you for that. I never even noticed what time it usually appeared in my inbox since I joined the 10 Club. Granted, I have only been in since 2017 so I guess in the grand scheme of things, that's probably not that many newsletters. Hope we get some good news on Sunday now.
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That is at worst the only change, but ultimately a had to do ass covering move so that it would be clear if anyone new was joining or renewing that there is no vinyl any longer. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. They'e not said, that is all, nothing else will change. The freaking policy always and forever has been "Membership benefits are subject to change at any time."
So again, it would be nice for them to provide 100% clarity on the direction, because the announcement email was vinyl done, and a bit ambiguous otherwise.
Would certainly be swell to get at least an inkling of clarity on the next phase of TC Analog vs Digital.
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That is at worst the only change, but ultimately a had to do ass covering move so that it would be clear if anyone new was joining or renewing that there is no vinyl any longer. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. They'e not said, that is all, nothing else will change. The freaking policy always and forever has been "Membership benefits are subject to change at any time."
So again, it would be nice for them to provide 100% clarity on the direction, because the announcement email was vinyl done, and a bit ambiguous otherwise.
I wasn't referring to this disclaimer, I was referring to the whole page. Those are the fucking benefits! The vinyl is done, that's the ONLY change this year!! Jesus you all need to get that through your thick god damn skulls. They're not gonna suddenly add something new when hundreds if not thousands of renewals have already been processed.
Would certainly be swell to get at least an inkling of clarity on the next phase of TC Analog vs Digital.
It's already been clarified. Not sure what else they would say
JFC, nothing has been clarified other than definitively no single moving forward. I doubt very much their grand plan of we look forward to what the future of the club has to hold is an awkward naming convention that splits digital over analog that include no music in either tier. Long story short, the annual single is the first change and casualty. It could get worse, it could get better, and it could take another 3 years for a clear answer, hoping not on the years, but the club tiers and benefits are going to change more than just the single.
Would certainly be swell to get at least an inkling of clarity on the next phase of TC Analog vs Digital.
It's already been clarified. Not sure what else they would say
JFC, nothing has been clarified other than definitively no single moving forward. I doubt very much their grand plan of we look forward to what the future of the club has to hold is an awkward naming convention that splits digital over analog that include no music in either tier. Long story short, the annual single is the first change and casualty. It could get worse, it could get better, and it could take another 3 years for a clear answer, hoping not on the years, but the club tiers and benefits are going to change more than just the single.
There should be a name change to the levels since they do not make sense anymore. And someone who is new might expect, even after skimming through the benefit details, that analog MUST mean vinyl of some sort is involved.
That is at worst the only change, but ultimately a had to do ass covering move so that it would be clear if anyone new was joining or renewing that there is no vinyl any longer. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. They'e not said, that is all, nothing else will change. The freaking policy always and forever has been "Membership benefits are subject to change at any time."
So again, it would be nice for them to provide 100% clarity on the direction, because the announcement email was vinyl done, and a bit ambiguous otherwise.
I wasn't referring to this disclaimer, I was referring to the whole page. Those are the fucking benefits! The vinyl is done, that's the ONLY change this year!! Jesus you all need to get that through your thick god damn skulls. They're not gonna suddenly add something new when hundreds if not thousands of renewals have already been processed.
Would certainly be swell to get at least an inkling of clarity on the next phase of TC Analog vs Digital.
It's already been clarified. Not sure what else they would say
JFC, nothing has been clarified other than definitively no single moving forward. I doubt very much their grand plan of we look forward to what the future of the club has to hold is an awkward naming convention that splits digital over analog that include no music in either tier. Long story short, the annual single is the first change and casualty. It could get worse, it could get better, and it could take another 3 years for a clear answer, hoping not on the years, but the club tiers and benefits are going to change more than just the single.
It is clarified on the benefits page. For 2019 that is what you get at each level. That is not going to change for this year. In the future it might change again. They will let us know at that point. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
Would certainly be swell to get at least an inkling of clarity on the next phase of TC Analog vs Digital.
It's already been clarified. Not sure what else they would say
JFC, nothing has been clarified other than definitively no single moving forward. I doubt very much their grand plan of we look forward to what the future of the club has to hold is an awkward naming convention that splits digital over analog that include no music in either tier. Long story short, the annual single is the first change and casualty. It could get worse, it could get better, and it could take another 3 years for a clear answer, hoping not on the years, but the club tiers and benefits are going to change more than just the single.
It is clarified on the benefits page. For 2019 that is what you get at each level. That is not going to change for this year. In the future it might change again. They will let us know at that point. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
A simple request.
Change the names of the membership levels because they are not representative of what is offered.
Asking for clarity is not being a BAD FAN, it is a human instinct.
I don't get why there is a battle between people who want to know more information and those who don't care what tenclub does.
Would certainly be swell to get at least an inkling of clarity on the next phase of TC Analog vs Digital.
It's already been clarified. Not sure what else they would say
JFC, nothing has been clarified other than definitively no single moving forward. I doubt very much their grand plan of we look forward to what the future of the club has to hold is an awkward naming convention that splits digital over analog that include no music in either tier. Long story short, the annual single is the first change and casualty. It could get worse, it could get better, and it could take another 3 years for a clear answer, hoping not on the years, but the club tiers and benefits are going to change more than just the single.
It is clarified on the benefits page. For 2019 that is what you get at each level. That is not going to change for this year. In the future it might change again. They will let us know at that point. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
A simple request.
Change the names of the membership levels because they are not representative of what is offered.
Asking for clarity is not being a BAD FAN, it is a human instinct.
I don't get why there is a battle between people who want to know more information and those who don't care what tenclub does.
They are the same type of fans as KISS fans who refuse to see that - their hero - Paul is lipsyncing.
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Would certainly be swell to get at least an inkling of clarity on the next phase of TC Analog vs Digital.
It's already been clarified. Not sure what else they would say
JFC, nothing has been clarified other than definitively no single moving forward. I doubt very much their grand plan of we look forward to what the future of the club has to hold is an awkward naming convention that splits digital over analog that include no music in either tier. Long story short, the annual single is the first change and casualty. It could get worse, it could get better, and it could take another 3 years for a clear answer, hoping not on the years, but the club tiers and benefits are going to change more than just the single.
It is clarified on the benefits page. For 2019 that is what you get at each level. That is not going to change for this year. In the future it might change again. They will let us know at that point. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
A simple request.
Change the names of the membership levels because they are not representative of what is offered.
Asking for clarity is not being a BAD FAN, it is a human instinct.
I don't get why there is a battle between people who want to know more information and those who don't care what tenclub does.
They are the same type of fans as KISS fans who refuse to see that - their hero - Paul is lipsyncing.
I love that you can work a Kiss reference into every discussion.
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i traveled to Europe this summer even going back to the canceled London show where I ended up 2nd row center stage (closest I’ve ever been) with Ed shaking my hand when he came to the rail. I’m not sure there are any more moments/experiences like this after 24 years of shows; that may be the pinnacle.
I’ve always been digital as I’m not into collecting. I will allow the renew one more time next month, but if there isn’t new music or a tour that includes more than stadiums, I’m not sure I’ll keep going with the membership; nostalgia can only go so far, and as stated above, which I didn’t even realize until I read it, I don’t talk about them much any more either.
On on the other hand, if a new album drops, and we get a more inclusive tour, game on!
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2006: Vienna 2009: Berlin 2010: London ~ Berlin 2012: Amsterdam 1+2 ~ Werchter ~ Arras ~ Berlin 1+2
2014: Milano ~ Trieste ~ Vienna ~ Berlin 2018: Padova ~ Rome 2022: Budapest ~ Vienna
EV London/Hammersmith 2012
EV Berlin/Zitadelle 2017
yeah prob just ev europe tour dates that have already been announced.
Dublin 2010
Madrid 2018
Werchter 2022
London 1 2022
London 2 2022
Krakow 2022
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
So again, it would be nice for them to provide 100% clarity on the direction, because the announcement email was vinyl done, and a bit ambiguous otherwise.
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
I propose Dumb and Dumber.
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
Change the names of the membership levels because they are not representative of what is offered.
Asking for clarity is not being a BAD FAN, it is a human instinct.
I don't get why there is a battle between people who want to know more information and those who don't care what tenclub does.